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Attorney says abusive 'rabbi' innocent
Efrat Weiss
Published: 28.10.09, 22:19
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1. What times the riot ?
Avi ,   Israel   (10.28.09)
Now the charideem can riot in support of the monster mother who half stareved her child together with this child abuser. At least attack the police and call them Nazis and set fire to some trash dumpters at the very least.
2. Wow what's new now ?
tea man ,   marjayoun   (10.28.09)
3. Prison or the Mental Hospital
J K ,   NYC, USA   (10.28.09)
You wonder which one this guy actually belongs in. Obviously a sick man. Not that I think any 'help' would actually help him, but either way, he definately needs to be away from society...especially it's younger members.
4. accused of posing as a rabbi ? he is a rabbi
avi ,   FL   (10.28.09)
what is this "posing as a rabbi" nonsense
5. #1
sandbw ,   jerusalem   (10.28.09)
they aren't gonna riot for this piece of filth.
6. # 4
Birdi ,   Israel   (10.28.09)
We will soon know if this guy is a Rabbi or not.
7. TO #4 AVI
KACH 613 ,   Judah, Israel   (10.28.09)
Why is he a rabbi because you Avi said so because you Avi have dislike for Charadim and it will look better for you Avi if he was a rabbi??? Let me tell you Avi even Ynet knows that he was not a rabbi and was only POSING as one. So it was a nice try Avi but look for another story that might bash Charadim because this is a story about a mentel case not a rabbi. OK AVI!!!
8. Rabbi?
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (10.28.09)
It is the mainstream religious establishment that are saying this guy is not a rabbi. Which is why the newspapers are putting the word in quotes. If they didn't some people would whine about that, and say the papers are saying that his guy is not a real rabbi and the anti-religious media is making him out to be one. Sheesh!
9. to avi at #1
jewnyor ,   jerusalem   (10.28.09)
they never gave real proof about that mother. the film was never made public and the judge is a known anti haredi. my wife was treated in hadassah when her jaw popped out of place (don't get any ideas). they put it back wrong, didn't do an mri to check if it was done right. when they realized that they did it wrong they gave her "treatments" that aren't on her charts. after none of that worked they sent her for surgery. after the surgery they told me that they should have maybe done more but they didn't for whatever reason they made up (it changed 3 times). it is now 10 months later and she still can't open her mouth and is in pain. but instead of saying they made a mistake they sent her to a homiopathic kook who did everything but treat the issue. when she got fed up and yelled at them they told her she was having psycological pain even though they admitted to seeing bone spurs on the joint. point is don't judge the woman before you heard her story. but this piece of crap rabbi deserves to rot. no ultra-orthodox person is going to flinch for him!
10. too many AVI here, confusing to the max
ghostq   (10.28.09)
anyway I hope that the judges will give him the max penalty.
11. "Hang 'im high'
rob ,   orangevale /USA   (10.28.09)
Along with the foul "mother"as well as anyone else that advocates child abuse. Rabbi Shmabbi. This is a case to let the world see how Israel deals with abuse of helpless innocents. Oh yeh, we ARE watching.
12. well said #7
(10.28.09)
13. He’s only a rabbi in the secular media and for you, Avi.
Cohen   (10.28.09)
In the chareidi world he’s not a rabbi.
14. Rabbi? Who ordained him?
Berkowitz ,   Beit Shemesh   (10.28.09)
How many years did he actually learn in a Yeshiva and from what age? Can he produce a document? Who was he in his past life (before he was supposedly Chozer B'Teshuva"? Who is his family? Was he a drug addict? A street thug? a pimp? Someone is purportedly Chozer B'Teshuva, grows a beard, masquerades in the Hareidi garb, forms a cult and is all of a sudden a "Rabbi"? He is not even religious let alone a "rabbi". Religious people do not abuse children and have sex with women who they take into their home, and if you say that they do, then you do not know the definition of religion, those who do are impostors!
15. What's happening in Israel?
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.28.09)
For such a small country, there is no end to the corruption. Why?
16. #13 Cohen distorting the facts
Avi ,   Israel   (10.28.09)
Oh i beg your pardon did i call him a rabbi or are you just adding your little touch to the story, Well incase you havent noticed he dressed like a charadi no doubt clutching a bible as that usually gets you off a few years and dont forget " i am hollier than thou"
17. to #9 refua shlema to the mrs.
gal1-very jewish ,   israel   (10.28.09)
and i hope they throw this imposter in a cell and let him rot. and then when he dies and goes to the lowest pits below geinom he suffers the exact same pain he caused to those beautiful innocent little children may G-d bless them . or better still throw him to the real caring mothers and fathers of this country and let us deal with him.
18. In too many of the Talkbacks about
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (10.28.09)
this article, the subject has, unfortunately, strayed from child abuse to concerns about the approach the Chareidim are, or may be taking, concerning this man. Really, this puts us off-centre and exposes us (the Readers) to too many false starts and biases both for and against the Chareidim. Let's first find out what the Courts have to say. I used to work in the area as a psychologist (now retired). It was an extremely stressful area of work as one had to maintain objectivity while dealing with ugly and painful issues (accusations of child abuse) not to mention dealing with the deniers, those who refused to speak but may have known something of relevance, the alleged perpetrator(s) and outright liars (on both sides).
19. He did not kill anybody.
(10.28.09)
20. Sin
Keren ,   IL-BR   (10.28.09)
And this time sin falls in those scorting him in the name of Israel. They should never had permited passengers to curse him,even if he is guilt. They are not entitled to judge him-that's for this reason there is Law. People should not be permited to judge this way. He might be not guilty(or even if he is) and nobody has the right to destroy him with their mouths. This is a sin and a shame that Israel is not supposed to inflict in a fellow Jew.
21. Avi , # 16
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.28.09)
If i'll wear charidi "clothes" , will i be charidi ? And if i commit a crime then , are it the Charidim who are to blame ? The robe does'nt make the monk , Avi . He was maybe charidi once , but i , who is'nt so pro charidi as you know , will not accuse the Charidi world for this . I will only ask how people can believe in such a man , and obey him .
22. Even YNet know he is no rabbi
Shalom   (10.28.09)
He is a total imposter; a sick piece of creation who should be hung.
23. to Avi the haredi-hater
observer   (10.28.09)
It sure fits our agenda to call him a rabbi. But the truth is, he is the product of a totally secular background, and brought his garbage - not just baggage - with him into the haredi world. Of course, someone like that needs serious therapy and years of training under a competent mentor t just become a normal human being, but that is the last thing a sick person would submit to. He ran away from his sick secular background but he couldn't run away from his sick self.
24. #20 How To Stop Them?
Christy ,   Boston, MA   (10.29.09)
I agree that nobody has a right to destroy anyone else with their mouth. I also agree this is sinful for those who do it. (Jesus called this the equivalent of murder.) But the escorts? How did they sin? They seemed to do their job, which didn't include forcing passengers to shut up. How could the escorts prevent Chen's fellow passengers from calling him names, or verbally destroying him? Those escorting Chen probably had their hands full just doing their job of escorting this man to Israel in one piece. I don't know how Chen's escorts could forcibly shut people up.
25. an innocent man do not ran away
Josie ,   Israel   (10.29.09)
26. To # 23 the blind observer
Avi ,   Israel   (10.29.09)
Oh really ? I see its because he according to you was once secular that he is a child abuser. We await the facts to back this up. What a sick outlook you have of anyone who is secular. Well news flash buddy, i am secular and the father of two daughters but hay i dont abuse and torture children. Observer ? and neithe does anyone i know. Haredi hater? really why dont you ask my haredi employees that one LOL ! i think not to observe you have to have eyes , ears and a brain.
27. Now the 'abusing' yiddishe mama (lol)
vos wird zein   (10.29.09)
will ask for this lawyer, ha ha before disappearing to Stamford Hill. To the cool (lol) guy whose wife happens to have a broken jaw, then sue them... . Ma haba'ayah?....ahem... By the way, let HER talk....
28. #19 He didn't kill anyone????
Meir ,   Beit Shemesh   (10.29.09)
One of the victims is the 4 year old child of the brainwashed mother who lies as a vegetable in a hospital. Is this better than killing?
29. Avi , he did it in name of "religion"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.29.09)
nothing related to charidim or being a "ba'al tshuva" . This latest already shows that his brains are'nt sane . You can find such "gurus" anywhere in the world , not always giving such ugly consequences , but sometimes even worse . They all have something in common : they do it in name of a "religion" , and have [ how is it possible ? ] fanatic followers .
30. Keren , you are back from your favellas ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.29.09)
Let me tell you that everywhere in the world "child abusers" are insulted , even before a trial . Not to say what happens to them in jail later . But all this , with your background , you can't understand .
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