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Asaf Gefen
Published: 06.11.09, 14:48
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31. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.06.09)
Exactly. Look what happened in Virginia, too. I cannot wait for the Congressional elections in 2010.
32. Sarah B misleads
Tug ,   USA   (11.07.09)
You shouldn't lie to these people Sarah B. You will give them false hope and a false image of the reality in the US. Obama's approval rating is still above 50%. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/06/poll-obamas-approval-rati_n_311937.html
33. Hmmm. President Obama is surrounded by Jews
Rivkah   (11.07.09)
put into political appointments by his approval. American Free Press thinks the Jews are taking over America. But this author thinks President Obama is indifferent to Israel? Shortly there will be a war with Iran and Bible prophecy indicates Iran will be subdued by the notable horn of the he-goat that comes from the ends of the earth. Grecian he-goat can mean Gentile. And that is NOT a country like Greece which is closer to Iran than Israel. Daniel chapter 8 is talking about events that are happening now and since 1991. The Gentile he-goat (UN) with a notable horn (USA) subdues a ram with two horns (Iraq-Iran or Media-Persia). Sounds like President Obama will be in Israel's side in that awful conflict that is coming. World War III will see the deaths of a third of the people in the world according to scholar Irvin Baxter. Author Walid Shoebat thinks that is a third of the people in the Middle East. Persia in the Bible is also called Elam. The prophecies about Elam is that it will be destroyed and the people of Elam will move to other nations. Elam may include Syria since Damascus is prophesied to be destroyed (Isaiah 17:1).
34. On what basis did Obama decide not to honor gentlemen
Jonatan Qatzir ,   Giv'at Hashlosha   (11.07.09)
agreement between Bush and Sharon? Is this the way an ally country treats another ally country, that a word is not a word? And when this happens the feeling turns to be mutual. And in addition, Obama's secretary of state had the hutzpah to stand in front of cameras and state that there was no such agreement, despite the fact that people who knew about it directly, e.g. Mr. Abrams, testified to the contrary.
35. :: Nice satirical humor
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.07.09)
I like this bit. "What are we, a normal country?" Obviously Israel is not fully recognized and doesn't have defined borders or capital city/etc. "It’s one thing for them to hate us; it can even be *fun* – we know how to cope with that and it brings out the *best* in us." (emphasis mine) This is, however, slightly more disturbing...
36. :: Speaking of American Presidents...
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.07.09)
Did anyone see the article from Carter? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/opinion/06iht-edcarter.html?_r=1 "I was able to examine the damage done to the small and heavily populated area, surrounded by an impenetrable wall, with its gates tightly controlled." "The Goldstone committee examined closely the cause of deaths of the 1,387 Palestinians who perished, and the degree of damage to the various areas. The conclusion was that the civilian areas were targeted and the devastation was deliberate. Again, the criticism of Israel in the Goldstone report is justified." If he keeps on like this people might believe him and check for themselves!!
37. Don't miss this video!
Ron B. ,   Lod   (11.07.09)
No one should miss this video: http://xrl.us/bf29mb
38. To: Cameron at No. 29
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.07.09)
I really like the raptor image -- thank you! We survived Carter. We'll survive this clown, too.
39. Thank you Ron B. # 37 for this informative video!
Yardenah ,   Kibbutz Kinneret   (11.07.09)
40. To: No. 32
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.07.09)
Yes, down from 80%. Stay tuned. This president is inept, and people are coming to realize it. Moreover, while I hate to say it, some pollsters believe that the margin of error may be as great as 10 or 12 percent, because black people may reply in a misleading (i.e., positive) fashion contrary to how they truly feel out of a strong sense of racial loyalty and Obama's unique status as the first black president. I remind you as well that following their respective first years in office, Warren G. Harding and Herbert Hoover enjoyed high approval ratings as well. With respect to the current president, barring impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors before his term ends, we have three long years to go. Obama can either redeem himself completely, or crash and burn completely. Frankly, my money's on the latter.
41. To: Ron at No. 37
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.07.09)
Thank you so much for posting this incredibly enlightening video. I am going to e-mail it to every United States Senator and every member of the House of Representatives. Obama would appear to be nothing short of an Al Qaeda mole, and the American people need to know this.
42. Obama puts US goals first and he doesn't hate Muslims.
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (11.07.09)
Most Jews in and outside Israel like to put goals of Israel first, they fear and at times hate Muslims. The Iraq war in away shows that US Jews are willing to put needs of Israel ahead of US but with good PR there was little backlash. Israel must keep US support so if Obama can keep some Jewish support then Israel has little choice.
43. "keep the racist crap to yourself.." rights the anti-Jewish
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.07.09)
racist from Fairport, NY, USA. To single out a people, a race, and to deny it the right of national self-determination and independence contrary to UN resolutions and the universally accepted right of all peoples to national self-determination and independence is a form of racism. To do so to the Jewish people whose nation-state is Israel amounts to anti-Jewish racism. So, I suggest the "gentleman" from New York direct his racist insult towards himself and not us, Jews.
44. Obama would do good for himself and the rest of us if he re-
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.07.09)
consider his approach to the entire Arab Israeli conflict and rely strictly on the single most important UN resolution that is designed to bring about peace between the parties: UN Security Council Resolution 242, as is. Now that Yasser Arafat is dead and Mahmoud Abbas is about to retire is probably an excellent opportunity to ask: Is there a place for the Palestinian Authority? The entire peace process between Israel and its Arab neighbours, it must be noted, has been based on UN Security Council Resolution 242, including the signed peace agreements between Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan. UNSC Resolution 242 does not mention at all concepts such as "Palestine", "Palestinians" or a "Palestinian state". And indeed, it does not call for the establishment of any additional state between the River and the Sea at all. UNSC Resolution 242 does call upon Israel, however, to withdraw its troops from "territories" - not all of them!!! - captured during the defensive Six-Day War of June 1967 to "secure and recognized boundaries", and it does recognize the vitality of each of the states that took part in the conflict (Six-Day War). Clearly, implicit in the Resolution is that Egypt should assume control over most of the Gaza Strip and Jordan over most of the West Bank and each should incorporate these territories back into their own respectively, doing so through talks and agreements with Israel and for the benefit of all. Perhaps this is the way and time to proceed: Apply UN Security Council Resolution 242 as is, now, don't you think?
45. Something has changed
Neil Turner ,   Watford, UK   (11.07.09)
Your subtitle, above, sums it up I have been a long time supporter of Israel. The UK Government now treats Christians the same way that Israel is being treated by the Nations of the World You have to understand the enemy here. It is a secular humanistic spirit, spiced with a good degree of Islamism. As a Christian, I can argue with an atheist. But a humanist completely ignores and despises me, thinking me beneath contempt People of Israel, whether you like it or not, you are God's chosen people. That gets a reaction from the world, so it is time to come out of denial I have been reading Isaiah 40 for a couple of days, meditating on the words. I've picked a couple of verses out but you really need to read the whole thing for yourselves "Your God is coming, yes the sovereign Lord is coming in all His power.....The Nations of the world (inc the USA, GB, the EU, the UN, Iran) are AS NOTHING to Him. In His eyes, the are less than nothing ....Oh Israel, how can you say the Lord does not see your troubles ? How can you say He refuses to hear your case ? ...Those who wait on the Lord will find new strength. They will fly high with wings like eagles" If you study your prophets they will tell you that yes, the Nations will gang up on you. But the Lord will deliver you My prayers are for you all at this time
46. OBAMA ONe ....
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.07.09)
he isn’t popular because our Jews in the USA gave him the necessary political support, just to see a black man leading USA and want to see the blacks being placed in an influential place. Anyway I feel like kicking my ass :-) Even yesterday i got some word of wisdom from my friends for supporting OBAMAAAA ! Actually, I just want to see a Black man sitting on that chair.:-) You bet we happen to be his friends from the Harvard school days !:-) Actually Obama, forgot us, I just don’t want to be to vocal. But in the next two week you wait and see :-) There is something brewing with Mitchells appointment and the booboo that came with it. We want the Bush - Sharon agreements be enforced! No Compromise! Well listen here, even the non- jews are feeling the indifference policy of OBAMA ! but you can deny the fact that we Jews is Israel are such anti- liberalism to the point orthodox , no- orthodox cant even sit together. :-0 there IS NO GROUNG FOR MUTUAL THINKING, EVERYONE SAY THEIR RIGHTS ARE SUPERIOR. NOW that GETS TO MY NERVES :-) i guess you'll just life us alon e to settle out jewish problem that started from day ONE :-) Never the less the Americans are still hurt by the sept 11, Even I get sick when I think about it as the children who are orphaned are just beginning to understand how their parent were murdered by OSAMA and GANG! It is an open secret how Arab money operated in the Islamic Extremist Terrorism Funding. Obama has not solver the unemployment issue in the USA. The medical, insurance, housing poverty in urban, child death, crime are such a pain on the budget. may die on the street in winter- homeless! And there is the illegal immigrants that take the USA migration policy for a ride. generally American are not very happy with two wings, the Islamic world and the Local Economic situation. Obama is not working hard enough if this continues he may have to say good bye ! One of the twist he manipulated in his campaign is the fact that he is the root of kenyans. we jews wanted him cost he was the children of Ham. Now he ended up selling all of us. So Noah was right. at least George Bush showed genuine interest on the poor’s in the Muslim Nations, he spoke of the Kurds and later it was closed issue cos he was no longer in power. Obama buried the plight s of the Kurds .The Turks supported Obama to ensure Obama drops the international affords of Kurds. Look the UN doesn’t speak of the Kurds anymore ; -) Dafur - no body remembers, as the Arabs laundered money bought over all the press ! He doesn’t care that Turkey is becoming Extremist in terms of ideas. There is a tugger war going on between the western and extremist ideas ! Soon secularism will erode ! Greeks in turkey are returning back to Greece. There is a massive return. Business teams and investor are living turkey .many are coming to Israel and Singapore. A few I met prefer making singapore a hub and want to come in via Israeli- Singapore Corridor to Asia:-) Osama’s statement in Cairo recently made us angry ! No Osama is not the Historian to rewrite Jewish history. We will not compromise on these issues. we want him NOT TO WATER DOWN THE AREMENIAN GENOCIDE ! He has a cause the anger of the Armenians too ! the only consolation is he seemed to treat the Palestinians problem seriously. But the Palestinians seem not to believe a word of OBAMA because they know his position in the USA politics is a short event ! They know that he has brought USA to bankruptcy. The Strange TRUTH is ISRALIS are ABLE TO INTERACT WITH ARABS with more understanding then the Americans ! Shocking but TRUE ! ben singapore continue...
47. Obama two .....continue
Benjamin ,   singapore   (11.07.09)
Remember all Africans from anywhere around the world are our children too. We Jews must take them as our own, just as we love and blast the Pals and extremist Islamic Terrorist ! let love them and blast them if it is absolutely necessary. Anyway lets not forget that our own israeli a have become lazy to the point they expect we must sing lullaby to them at bed time. SO SPOILT ! BUT YOU ARE MINE I WILL SPOIL YOU YITZAKS because you are my beloved. But I can forget Ishmaels too. This is not prejudice but my DUty as a Father to my children Israel and the Lazy MULES .Fathers must always ensure that his children get the best. But if you do nonsense i'll cane you ! I wont spare the rode. I have-not forgotten the Singaporean who was murdered with the Chabad Rabbis at Oberoy India by the Islamic extremist of Pakistan. Singaporeans are my beloved too. But I will not forgive you for the many bombing in India, London and the USA and EUROPE ! ben singapore
48. Dalai Lama and OBAMA ?
benjamin ,   singapore   (11.07.09)
Well Obama must take astand on the Dalai Lama issue : -) In fact whay is that Ynet never ran a page on this Dalai Lama ? Ynet you have any reasons ? Just curious :-) Ynet please report on Gilat Shalit. ;-) benjmain singapore
49. BERLIN WALL & OUR STAR OF DAVID
Benjamin ,   singapore   (11.07.09)
YNET THE GERMANS WANT TO RESTORE THE WALL PAINTING. PLEAE ENSURE THEY DONT WHITE WASH THE JEWISH ART :-) ADL please show us some survelance photos ! Yets please help us, we are far away from berlin. keep us informed let us know :) I received some news on this , ps confirm :-) ben singapore
50. :: Eitan - no such thing as 'the Jewish race'
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.07.09)
The Jewish people are not a 'race', there is no such thing called the 'Jewish race'. It is like saying 'the Muslim race'! The Jewish people are ethnic group or an ethno-religious group if you like, similar to the Maronites. Eitan going forward please at least know that Jewish people are part of the Caucasian race which includes people from Europe, Africa and Asia.
51. #33 - Rikvah: Please; ur crushing my heart
AY_Lamb ,   Globestan   (11.07.09)
You are such a devout person in your faith; and I cannot deny -that although I don't share your beliefs I admire your tenacity and strength of conviction. But, you seem completely obsessed with prophetic prognostications and this is a risky tendency for all of us mere mortals. Can't you just see the beauty, intricacy and exuberance in the gift of mortality? We are just human we can't know the future we must forge the future. Please gaze deep into the text of Torah, our similarities, our mortality, our weaknesses, that is what makes us kindred to each other and to HaShem. For crying out loud, celebrate and rejoice for your brothers and sisters are different yet the same. You can take any random novel, we can take Moby Dick and run it through the ELS procedures and come up with prophecy. Try not to fall for the gratification that comes from condemning others.
52. #42 Bloody Thirsty making youself laughing stock w. Muslim
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (11.07.09)
B. Hussein loves Muslims and puts Islam first. For this B. Hussein is willing to sacrifice USA and Israel
53. To # 22
Dave Heidenfeld Nwe Mexico USA   (11.07.09)
Sad,Sad,Sad....... A classic "Israeli Response"! .....Lets talk about another topic is a regular Hasbara B.S.-When you get a Constitution than call yourselves a democracy - until that time try not to piss the rest of the wold, not too many "friends" are left...... Shalom and Salam
54. Min. Farakhan and Rev. Wright's conection to BHO?
Ruti ,   Dalia, Israel   (11.07.09)
Anyone can shed more light on Barack Obama's past and/or present association with these two 'gentlemen'?
55. #53 Hypocrisy on your part is never ending
Genuine Toseftat ,   Tveria   (11.08.09)
I don't even bother reading your last post It must be again the same leftist garbage you wrote before you guys never learn and Rabin's thousands of Jewish and Arb victims do not bother you good that he is not with us any longer, the damage he caused to the Jewish people is almost as great as the Holocaust for many generations to come
56. Obama is Israel's enemy. Nuke Iran Now!
ROB GOTTESMAN ,   Teaneck. Nj USA   (11.08.09)
Wipe the Iranian Nazi's off of the map BEFORE they commit the 2nd Holocaust. NUKE IRAN NOW! Wipe this Nazi country off of the map and utterly anihillate it ( would we let Hitler get the bomb, of course not . If Hitler were about to get the bomb we would have anihillated Germany 1st). The only way to stop the Iranian Nazi Mad Mullah Facists from getting the bomb is to Nuke Iran OFF OF THE MAP NOW!!! For more about this join our FaceBook Group; American Jews Against Obama also visit: WWW.AMERICANJEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.BLOGSPOT.COM
57. To: Mahalia at No. 27
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.08.09)
That would make him a sociopath (good at imitating emotions which he does not in truth feel) and mentally ill with borderline personality disorder. Sigh. I guess it goes to show you that anyone really CAN become president of the United States. No matter how unfit for public office they may be.)
58. To: Ruti at No. 54
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.08.09)
Not on the association with Farrakhan, but I can tell you that the alleged Reverend Wright (who seems to not be a graduate of any known or recognized divinity school, not even a mail order one) is a virulent anti-Semite and Obama has chosen him as his "spiritual advisor," a role he Wright has played for better than twenty years. Despite not being an ordained minister, the so-called "Reverend" Wright officiated at Obama's "marriage" and the "baptism" of Obama's two daughters. The "Reverend" Wright also accused Jewish doctors at Cook County Hospital of injecting little black babies with the HIV virus. He insisted that that was the only way that these babies could have contracted the virus, this despite ample proof that HIV positive babies were being born to drug addicted mothers rather routinely. These are not "gentlemen," Ruti dear/ They are scurrilous and vicious Jew haters, and it is quite a shame that they have the ear of the president of the United States. On a personal note: are you from Kibbutz Dalia? I did my Ulpan at Kibbutz En Ha'Shofet, that's why I'm asking! Some of the best days of my life!
59. my mother used to say
hala   (11.08.09)
deal with a dog better than to deal with a man . as the dog will accepted you as a friend even if you are different but the man need a friend to be always beside him if he right or wrong .as if friendship is a company and he is the owner
60. Great
daniel   (11.08.09)
The more Obama leaves Israel alone the better. Israeli's know perfectly well how to deal with the problems they are facing. They dont need some messiah from the US telling them what to do.
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