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Clinton: Rabin's death prevented peace
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Published: 14.11.09, 21:41
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1. BILL CLINTON THE MARRIAGE
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.14.09)
GUIDANCE EXPERT. What a truly sick joke.Bill if you are watching,stick to having sex with Monica and then denying it .There is no peace to be had in the middle east save for the peace of the grave.And people like Clinton really mean "Surrender" when they use the word peace.You do not fool me you sly old fox you..
2. DEAR MR. CLINTON
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.14.09)
Sir,you strike me as an unadulterated (poor choice of word ) Charlatan and Fraud .BUT, you unconsciously revealed the truth about Saint Rabin .Rabin,by being alive,impeded a false peace ,a lie a sham which was not peace at all but total surrender by Israel to the bastards which surround her. Rabin understood that true peace with Arafat was a total sham .You see sir ,you can fool some of the people but you could not fool Rabin z"l and you do not fool me.Have a nice day now.
3. No, suicide bombings impeded Peace progress at the time
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (11.14.09)
and this is also why Rabin was assassinated, because he introduced the suicide bombers and their Arch-Terrorist masterminds into the heart of Israel 300 Jews were murdered by foreign Arbs arriving in the land of Israel in the 2 years before Rabin's assassination as a direct result of Rabin's stupid policies and careless immature actions
4. I betcha divorce wasn't an option with Hillary either.The
guy is a snake.Go ,   home Bill.Get out.   (11.14.09)
5. sometimes Bill ....
Galut ,   Selah   (11.14.09)
God works behind the sences to insure his will not mans is fullfilled... Bill Clinton I know you do not take the holly scriptures literaly ...many don't ...just reread them and keep your eyes open... a two state solution is not in the scripture...
6. Lies Lies and more Lies by the Master of Lies!
"I did not sleep ,   with that woman"   (11.14.09)
Buses were blowing up before Rabin's murder. Oslo died before Rabin!
7. Clinton should familiar himself with Rabin's views first:
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.14.09)
In his last speech at the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, in October 1994, Rabin said the following and drew some red lines such as: 1. Jerusalem will remain united and it will include in addition the towns of Ma'aleh Adumim and Giv'at Zeev. 2. Gush Etzion aw well as additional Jewish towns and villages, e.g. Beitar Ilit, would be incorporated into the state of Israel. 3. The Jordan Valley in its widest definition would continue to be part of the Jewish state. In essence, Rabin drew a verbal map in which 40% of the West Bank will forever continue to be part of Israel and Jerusalem will remain undivided. If the Arabs rejected the Barak-Clinton proposal of 2000 and the Olmert proposal of 2008, I don't see how they would accept Rabin's view of an accommodation of peaceful coexistence. And here is the problem: Coexistence. They refuse to recognize Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, regardless of the offer, and especially when asked that any peace agreement assumes the agreement represents the "end of the conflict". The end, they feel, will only come when Israel is no more, wiped off the face of earth, annihilated, in one-fell-swoop or in stages.
8. Bill thinks Pals are rarin4 peace-only Rabin death intervene
Alan ,   SA   (11.14.09)
9. Clinton
joe ,   afula   (11.14.09)
and Clinton's policies led to 9-11and the spread of terrorism.
10. BILL ,MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.14.09)
And get yourself a proper job,quit bugging the long-suffering Israelis.
11. yes hamas, arafat, other terrorists respected rabin
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.14.09)
all of the terrorists would have behaved themselves if rabin wasn't killed. i wonder what clinton is smoking because it must be pretty good stuff.
12. Bill Fantasy Clinton
Marc ,   Israel   (11.14.09)
Unfortunately Bill Clinon still does not get it. Rabin, Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr. It maks no diference the arabs will never make peace with us. The more he peddles this fantasy BS, the worse the situation gets.
13. Clintons oslo format killed peace before it started
zionist forever   (11.14.09)
Instead of oslo which was like every other peace plan deadline based. Instead it should have been take it slow but steady. The intial plan should have been we in principle agree to the creation of an arab state providing it is the result of real peace. We have no deadlines we all agree we talk and it takes as long as it takes. Trust would have slowly developed and once you have that then you can start treating both sides like adults instead of chidlren. That means that they all would have meant everybody accepted they were going to have to make some compromises on their demands. There would have been ups and downs when things would stall but it would be easier to pick up where we left off because we had been developing roots over time. Arafat would have been foreced into a corner to make real peace because that was the only thing that would get anything terror wasn't going to work. In Israel there is no argument about security because we are making real peace before we are even giving away anything. The arab state would have been the prize for real peace. Blaming it all on Rabins death is just like sticking all blame for this on Yigel Amir. Rabin was killed only 2 years after he signed oslo he hadn't even touched on difficult issues with the palestinians. Arafat was still trying earn a little respect internationally & wasn't ready for terror tactics
14. BILL,YOU HAD YOUR 15 MINUTES
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.14.09)
Now clear off and take Jimmah the peanut brain with you.
15. AAH DID NOT INHALE ,AAH DID NOT
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.14.09)
HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN . If you say so HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
16. based on what?
Golan ,   Ashdod   (11.15.09)
Rabin would not allow a PLO or Hamas state in Judeah, he would not allow the so called right of return, or the division of Jerusalem. You thin Arafat would have acted differently if he had a guy named Rabin in front of him rather than a guy called Barak? Really now, Oslo would have died sooner had Amir not shot Rabin.
17. "RABIN DEATH MESSED UP MY PLAN"
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.15.09)
How rude of Rabin to die.How dare he ? some people have no consideration.
18. SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.15.09)
Dear Mr.Clinton,We apologize for Yitzhak Rabin so rudely dying on you and you not being able to fulfill your fantasy ,I mean pursue your dream of peace.Rabin never did have any consideration of others but then again he was Israeli .By the way,what is it you do exactly ?
19. CLINTON COULD CARE LESS ABOUT
RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.15.09)
RABIN,alive or dead.He is just upset his plans got scuppered.Hey Bill ,how does one make G-d laugh ? Simple,tell him your plans .
20. .. and Hillary would turn into a Rose Fairy..
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (11.15.09)
21. Actually, Rabins life threatened peace.Good man, but dumb
decision signing ,   olso accord.   (11.15.09)
22. Clinton's 100% correct...
Rafi ,   US   (11.15.09)
... what has any govt in Jerusalem after Rabin's actually brought Israel in terms of true improved security? Israel's international standing has only plummetted and the terms of all proposed agreements with the Palestinians today are FAR WORSE than Oslo. Meanwhile, hate-mongers such as "Lawrence Rap Artiste, Safed" offer only venom and ignorance - but no solutions.
23. I Used To Believe This
emanon ,   USA   (11.15.09)
Now I believe that the arabs will use any means to continue its war on Israel until the last arab is dead. There never was any chance for peace because BOTH side have to want peace. Only one side has ever wanted to live peacefully in Israel, the Jews of Israel.
24. #7 Where the legendary Olmert proposal
George ,   Canada   (11.15.09)
is drafted?! In Olmert imaginary brain .You are talking if there was something determined offered on the negotiation table ,not just a bla bla bla and exchange of ideas that can be discussed on one meeting and withdrawn in the next meeting. If you have your own source that no body have it please share and enlighten us some of these secrets. In 2000 Barak-clinton proposal, although Arafat was reluctant to accept the offer at the beginning and did not give the final answer. Barak backed up of the deal FIRST after consultation with the rest of Israeli delegations and withdrawals his previously agreed agreements. Isaac Rabin wife sentence: “my husband is shaking in his grove angry from the concession Barak is making in the negotiation.” Review Denis Ross notes for more info. Lately Arafat sent to the US administration his acceptance of this proposal but Israel refused even have any discussion with Arafat who already was sieged in his residency in Ramallah by Israeli tanks. You, Israeli professional in modifying the facts. Some of you, like Sarah B, makes up the facts and then she is the first who start to believe in them if they were a historical truth.It is exactly as pick and choose the events and facts that suite more your mentality and way of thinking.
25. The problem is Daniel chapter 8 in the Bible that was
Rivkah   (11.15.09)
delayed by the death of Prime Minister Rabin...the part about the notable horn (USA not Alexander since Greece is not a country from the ends of the earth) breaking into four parts. When Jerusalem is divided by an international agreement, Jerusalem being what Joel the Prophet calls "My Land" referring to "God's Land", then the USA will break into four parts. That will happen after the ram with two horns (Media-Persia) is subdued (the breaking of the notable horn.) I hope President Clinton reads the book "As America Has Done to Israel" by John McTernon to see how Jerusalem is a burdensome stone to all who try to mess with Israel's ownership of Israel and the land God gave to Abraham. That is like calling God a liar. The ELS Torah codes call Rabin a traitor in the matrix that includes "Rabin Fire Fire Traitor". What made Rabin a traitor was trading land for peace when there is no peace with Palestinians. The only way to prevent Armageddon is to nuke every Muslim city on earth OR remove the four million Palestinians from Israel and distribute them among the 57 Muslim nations they should have gone to long ago. The Bible says when there is peace in Jerusalem, there will be peace in the world: that means Jewish ownership and not an international city or half Palestinian or a quarter Christian or any other arrangement except what God promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
26. #7 ...and one more point: "The Palestinian entity" said Rabn
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.15.09)
"will be LESS than a state". This, in addition to the previous points mentioned makes Rabin's view of an accommodation very similar to that of Netanyahu and Mofaz.
27. Clinton is right
gabriela ben ari ,   jerusalem   (11.15.09)
Had rabin been left to live, there would have been a peace process, a fast one, ---and no Israel a year after that. So yes, total peace, with no more Israel around
28. Billy Clinton - has been
Juan ,   Spain   (11.15.09)
In contest to other posters on this subject, I'd like to say something in support of Bill Clinton, as he seems to be coming in for some flack. Stating what might have happened if someone had not died is all a bit of an imprecise science, and as such interesting conjecture, but totally irrelevant to 2009. Also I would like to say that Bill Clinton was the best president that the USA have ever had, he did so much for world peace and was totally honest in all of his dealings. But if I said that, I would be a liar, just like him.
29. Tell Bubba to keep quiet
Ken ,   Australia   (11.15.09)
Tell Mr clinton that he was a good president but in the end his legacy didnt last , he was a great money man and sales man, but not the best international spokesman. If we want a divorce from these arabs, of course it is an option. Its far to long comeing, let these guys go, and make sure they stay out of jewish business, The amounts of money wasted on the arabs is a disgrace , if these people want a peace or a lasting peace or a peace plan or a recognised people, let them earn it, you earn it with respect , not by kidnappings, blacmail and of course mass murder, Yes we all know how they condone this and its there strategy for being heard, but in the west we have values , and this will never change, We do not condone there outcries through intimidations, Bottom LIne - They have earned nothing , no State, No land , No community , no voice no nothing they need to wake up , once they recognise that they are all on jewish land , and that they are also a semetic people through abraham and that the jewish nation has a job to do , protecting the land , the people the life, maybe they will come to a conclusion, but the deal here is that jewish people have owned this land for 5000 years and are not going anywhere, When they acknoledge there semetic brothers on the otherside of the fence they will realize that in the future things can be better, but with out recognition of the jewish people they will never have recognition , they are simply molokites and they dont like it. They are there own problem, not the worlds problem, we dont need to solve arab mentall illness, we dont need to recognise them untill they recognise all other peoples and provide respect for others that we all understand in the west , which is a character trait of the ten commandments and judaism its self. They the arabs know it and thus want life changed to an arab hotch potch.
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nabaa   (11.15.09)
is it jewish woman ???????
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