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UK rabbi 'offered cocaine for sex'
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Published: 19.11.09, 08:40
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31. Amazing that the opinion of certain talk backs
(11.19.09)
you learn to respect, even while mostly disagreeing. Till they throw in such a stupid childish one.....voila. What a pity...lo matim lecha chaver...
32. To: No. 15
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.19.09)
I would say that a rabbi seeking the services of a prostitute and paying for it with an illegal substance is bad. But at least it is consensual sex. I would say that priests raping little boys is so immoral as to boggle the mind. And it isn't consensual. What kind of a message do you think that sends to all the potential altar boys of the world?
33. Golden Calf worshipping "rabbi"
Andrew ,   Miami,Fl   (11.19.09)
34. To 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.19.09)
One rotten aqpple is'nt enough to vilipend a whole people . He is not condoned by the rest of the people . Some try to excuse him by accusing others of wronger acts . This is stupid , but a "normal behaviour" of this person .
35. drugged rabbi #16
elie ,   jerusalem   (11.19.09)
he is ynet purim rabbi , a whole year. sometimes you have to add some glue to a made up story so it sticks
36. Glatt kosher
David ,   Haifa   (11.19.09)
Sorry, ortho-apologists, but this guy is as orthodox as they come, nothing reform about him. He was ordained by orthodox rabbis and taught at orthodox yeshivas. There is no way that you can blame this on us unbelievers, conservatives, reform and other un-Jewish Jews.
37. He is a Jew, you are a Jew. Sof pasuk, chaver
(11.19.09)
38. to change the subject a little
(11.19.09)
why havent you reported that that the children of the mother who starved her little boy have been secretly moved out of Israel to Stamford Hill London, their dad's hometown. I bet this creep of a woman will manage to do the same.
39. Sarah again giving untrue facts
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.20.09)
There are one hundred Catholic priests serving a sentence in US jails , not 15,000 as she wrote . Her affirmation would make that 1 of three Catholic priests in the USA are in prison ! By telling this , i begin to have doubds on the veracity of anything you wrote already , beginning with your son .
40. #39 Charles
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (11.22.09)
Charles, I remember, as a rookie on this forum, challenging Sarah for her harsh words to you. Since then I have a vague idea of mi neged mi and I deem Sarah a real champion for those us who love Israel, especially when myths need dispelling. She occasionally gets carried away a bit, a figure, a date ..but so what...? Leave it for the person she's addressing to spend the time to prove her wrong. What I've noticed Charles, is you're always waiting in the corner to disprove her 'be katanot'. Metaphorically, it's like she's leading the charge into battle and you're shooting her in the neck from behind. The last comment of your post is despicable.
41. # 38
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
The children (of the "starving mother") are not on trial & are free to come & go as they please. The mother is on trial for starving her child. She wont be leaving israel in the near future.
42. # 39
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
Charles please google "Roman Catholic priests serving prison terms in USA for child molesting" thats www.google.com where you will find 4,990 links. It seems there are more than 1500 priests in jail for child molesting.Happy reading.
43. Mark , 40 . Yes , it was despicable
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
Listen , i'm not directly interfering in her discussions , but sometimes it become "much to much" , and then i react .
44. Birdi , search John Jay report
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
in wikipedia . You will find it unther : Catholic sex abuse cases . there is written : 100 jail sentences were pronounced .
45. Mark , 40 . When i make a fault , error
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
or how you can name it , i agree that it was wrong , and don't search excuses or attack others . I had'nt to write it .
46. # 43
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
Charles you disect most of what Sarah B & I write here.
47. # 44
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
100 jail sentances were pronounced since what year ?? Child molesting by the clergy has been going on for a very long time. There are more than 100. To be sure of that.
48. 47 Birdi , again no proof of what you pretend
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
Have you read this John Jay report ? it's states clearly : 100 sentences pronounced . How can you write : there are more . To be sure of that ? Do you know everything ? i don't , but i try to find out and tell you where i found it . When someone writes something that i think it's plausible , no need to look farther . When someone writes that 15000 Roman Catholic priests are in jail in the USA , it's seems UNBELIEVABLE to me , and i try to find it out . When i make an error , or write something not so nice , i accept that i was wrong , look only at my tb to # 40 .
49. # 48
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
Yes Charles you are an angel in disguise, I can see your hallo from here. AMEN.
50. # 48
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
The John Jay report indicated that some 11.000 allegations had been made against 4.392 priests in USA.This number constituted approx 4% of the 11.000 priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950-2002) The report found that, over the 52-year period covered by the study, "the problem was indeed widespread" & affected more than 95% of the dioceses & approx 60% of religious communities. In 2008 the Church asserted that the scandal was a very serious problem,but at the same time, estimated that it was "probably" caused by no more than 1% (or 5.000) of the over 500,000 Roman Catholic priests worldwide. NO WHERE in the John Jay report does it mention 100 American priests are in jail at the monment for child molesting. By the figures above you must realize that there are more than 100 priests in jail for child molesting.
51. 50 , learn to read
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
John Jay report . Report summary . Of the 4392 priests who were accused , police were contacted regarding 1021 individuals , and of these 384 were charged , resulting in 252 convictions and 100 prison sentences . That's what is written in the summary . Without any change or comment . birdi lost her plumage , and is falling , falling , very deep . Poor birdi
52. Birdi , i appreciate seriously
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.22.09)
That you in the end have read a part of the summary . Read it completely , not very long , and you will see that ......100 prison sentences were pronounced . So only 100 priests in jail then , and it was this we were discussing . So very far from the 15,000 . Sorry for the "plumage" and falling ....
53. # 52
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
Too late for your apologies, you already said & MEANT every word. Lucky for me I find you most amusing & naive.Others wouldnt. You are a nit-picking ,big headed,big mouthed, disrespectful know -it -all. I'm done with you !!
54. #27 blessing for sex
alex ,   new york   (11.22.09)
ya'aleh v'yavo, obviously.
55. # 54
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
LOL, GADOL !!
56. Interfaith business activities
Jonathan ,   Lancashire   (11.23.09)
Not convicted perhaps :- i) He was doing interfaith work ii) Too many Rabbis don't know how to party
57. 53 , Birdi , can't you accept that i was right
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.23.09)
and you , and of course Sarah , WRONG . As you don't accept my sincere apologies , but insults me , you show the kind of "person" you are . A person who thinks that she knows everything better as others , who is ignorant and tries to give lessons . Poor "birdi" , i truly pity you
58. 54 was Gadol , 55 is ketana
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.23.09)
And falling , falling very deep , very deep .....
59. # 45 Fine Charles..if you really mean that
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (11.23.09)
... do the right thing and apologize directly to Sarah
60. # 54
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
I'd rather be "ketana" than an old crock of hot air, like you are Charles.
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