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Haredim demand 'kosher' certification for Arab workers
David Regev
Published: 24.11.09, 07:55
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1. town values?
aVI ,   Israel   (11.24.09)
Have these people really lost the plot now, damaging the spirit of the town? Which apparently includes throwing rocks at arabs based on their nationality or how about nearly beating someone to death for the crime of being an arab, good old religious values from the charideem, is this the light unto all nations they are so keen to promote. The only reason they have arab workers is that these parasites belive they are to holy to work.
2. pay more and have jews do it
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.24.09)
solve the problem and get israeli citizens to do the work. either that or bring in foreign workers and train, insure them, give them licenses, visas, etc, and don't have anything to do with arabs. it'll be way, way more expensive, but the problem is solved.
3. Or will they say that Jews who do not wear black
Keren ,   IL-BR   (11.24.09)
or wigs in the head will also damage town "values"? Come on Jews in black:get over it .We are all Jews and you are not holier than other Jews. Get over it and start loving,teaching and participating in full in the life of your brothers! You will learn a lot too and I AM SURE HASHEM WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH YOU! STOP IT!!!
4. in this one #2 is right.
Keren ,   IL-BR   (11.24.09)
Just don't employ arabs! I do believe many arabs are damaging the city values. I do know many arabs spoil constructions they are employed in causing greater headacke to people to solve afterwards. So #2 is absolutely right:DON'T HIRE ARABS and pay for Jews to do your jobs! It is disgusting and awful to behave otherwise and keep complaining.It is ugly!
5. No sexists should be employed anywhere!!
Nethanel ,   Jerusalem   (11.24.09)
If I, as a male Jew, would look at his sister in the same way he looks at Jewish girls, he would have killed me a long time ago. It is worthwhile to notice that this behaviour is so deep-rooted into the islamic society that by law in jordan a brother is not brought to court for honor-killing his sister. According to Article 340 of the criminal code, "A husband or a close blood relative who kills a woman caught in a situation highly suspicious of adultery will be totally exempt from sentence."
6. I wonder what would happen if this was case in USA
Brad ,   USA   (11.24.09)
With one exception - that instead of Arab workers, there would be Jewish workers. And that people would organize to expel Jews out of town because they "damage the spirit of the town".
7. How typically haredim...
John ,   Europe   (11.24.09)
Make the rest of us look like racist pricks while feeling very righteous and flattering that they are "G-d's chosen among chosen". I wouldn't even call them haredim. Shchmaredim would be more appropriate.
8. What a shame Jews WONT EMPLOY Jews
gabriela ben ari ,   jerusalem   (11.24.09)
reap what you sow guys pay good salary to a Jew trying to stay to live in Israel, and you wont get your daughters messed up boycott the transportation company and Rami Levi for utter antisemitism in prefering Arab cheap workers to supporting a Jewish family I dont understand how beating the poor Arab worker to a pulp will solve anything
9. Let the charidim work !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
Will they work at this supermarket ? Are they ready to perform a hard labor at low salaries ?
10. Employing Arabs
Raphael ,   Netanya   (11.24.09)
is a major colonial policy. This fact is a support to the arab propaganda.
11. You just don't get it
Berl Rabinowitz ,   Beitar Illit   (11.24.09)
We will not tolerate the lewd remarks arabs make to the women of our city, you people only read the trash spewed by the bleeding hearts of Yediot AKA Idiot and Maariv (full of darkness) Read Arutz 7 about the conference to combat Arab sexual harassment How many Jewish girls were lured off to arab villages with jewelry and gifts to become the hated Jew wife who is derided and beaten daily and begs for Yad L'Achim to come rescue them? We will not tolerate Arab men making sexual remarks to our women. Arabs only understand those who show strength
12. OR SIMPLY: GO HOME SETTLERS
ale ,   Italia   (11.24.09)
13. #2
n ,   israel   (11.24.09)
Hareidim don't beat up fellow Jews?
14. Listen to the Rabbis and stop employing Arabs!
(11.24.09)
15. Arabs from Husan throw rocks and firebombs at them daily
Avi ,   Jerusalem   (11.24.09)
Obviously the Jews of Beitar aren't thrilled to hire these very same people or have them benefitting economicaly from them.
16. RACISM
David ,   Brazil   (11.24.09)
Please, what is that? So one person cannot have different values in that town? Where do they live, in 1939's Berlin?
17. Excuse me Berl
Panc   (11.24.09)
I totally agree Arabs are a harassment in many cases. You still do not relate what some talkbackers are saying!! Did you try starting another transportation company that will only employ Jews?? Did you try to stay away (as a city) from purchasing from Hashikma? If your answer is "No" then who the hell are you trying to fool
18. negative influence & spiritual problems on town's women
observer   (11.24.09)
those are no materialistic damages, then I think that the Haredim have the power of judging the spirituality. That power they acquired must have been from watching porno videos on the internet. Those must be the chosen of the chosen.
19. These people are dangerous!!
Chaya ,   Bat Yam   (11.24.09)
I'm talking about the residents of Betar Illit!! Whoever attacked that bus driver should be arrested!! These bus drivers need to be protected!! Their grandfathers were beaten up in Europe!! How dare they do the same to others!!
20. Mike , # 2 . do you agree to have this low paid job ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
That's for the super of course . Do you think that it's economically justified to pay more for unqualified workers ? And who will pay the bill ? customers of course . Regarding the buses , i don't think that a driver has time to harras women , they have to play attention on the road , on those [ stupid , everywhere ] passengers who ask ten times if this bus reaches this or another place , who come with a 100 ILS bill for a 2.7 ticket , who "forget" to pay or forget to take their ticket .
21. Gaby # 8
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
The super has to find Jews who want to do this unqualified physically hard job , even at higher salaries . Bus drivers enjoy better salaries i think , why does this company not find Jewish drivers , i don't know . I never met an Arab driver on the buses i take [ as far i could see it ]
22. Leftists support sexual harassment?
Meir ,   Beitar Illit   (11.24.09)
The issue here is not Arabs because they are arabs, the issue is that part of Muslim culture includes treating women as sex objects. If a Hiloni Jew would be so crude to women they would also be treated as pariahs. The beating of the bus driver was one incident, this led to demonstrations and complaints to the Bus company and to the supermarket. Thes companies understand that inappropriate behavior by their employees will not be tolerated. For those who say the Hareidim should work, obviously you have never visited a Hareidi community, there are many hareid bus drivers employed by Illit, in fact most of the internal buses are driven by residents of Beitar. The cashiers and packers are all religious Jews either from in town or the nearby yishuvim of Gush Etzion.So check your facts before shooting from the lip. The issue here is sexual harassment, do you people have that straight now? What would a chiloni man do if his wife or daughter went to a store or on a bus and was groped or lewd remarks made to her? Would the Hiloni just let it pass? Perhaps you peace loving Hilonim would be happy to let the Arab have a go at your wife or daughter, this is the impression you give me!
23. I can see how they confuse the hara-di
jason white ,   afula,israel   (11.24.09)
women with moslim women.
24. 13 - who said that?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.24.09)
if it's a 'kosher' problem, then maybe they'd be less inclined. i thought the whole point was to lessen the problem?
25. Iranization of Israel
INCognito ,   Chicago, USA   (11.24.09)
Is slowly taking place. Israelis are really working toward losing support of even the Diaspora Jews.
26. Strange, #22 Meir...
John ,   Europe   (11.24.09)
From the article and from Berl, I got the other impression then sexual harassment. I will not even start to wonder why do you ask for expulsion of ALL Arabs because of sporadic cases in the bus. We had recently, in state where I live, a sexual harassment claim against one Jew. Let's not go why/where etc, but answer me simply - would you support expulsion of all my community because of this case?
27. again
marko ,   tel aviv   (11.24.09)
once again the haradim are trying to impose there will on others ,this is racism pure and simple
28.  26 John , there is no Jew in your state
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
who wants to throw all the locals to sea , to murder them , and so on . A big difference is'nt it ?
29. beitar ilit
Alfi   (11.24.09)
All rabbis should be expelled from beitar ilit because in the past a few have been charged with child molestation and violence against children and women. Right? And why is it that male haredim frequent the prostitutes so much. Are these women kosher too?
30. Meir , 22
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
No women should be harassed , not important if she's a chiloni or a religious charidi one . No man has the right to do it . OK ? And we , seculars and leftist are more than others against harrassement . We don't throw acids on women nor attack them when they sit on the "wrong" place in a bus . It are charidim who do it . Were women groped in Betar Illit ? Listen , i'm taking many buses , 5 today in my town , 4 yesterday to Tel Aviv , i'm accompagning my wife to the super since many years . I have NEVER seen a woman being touched voluntarely , NEVER .
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