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Dershowitz slams Goldstone for 'spreading lies'
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 23.11.09, 10:38
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61. #59
Eyal ,   USA   (11.23.09)
Let me ask you BBS, where are your posts when Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and Jihad threatens to wipe Israel off the map or shove them out to sea? We are talking about over 7 million Jewish lives here. Is that ok? I prefer the death of 1.5 million barbarian, non-human parasites, than the death of 1 Jew in Israel any day. heheheh
62. Israel broke what?
#56 ,   USA   (11.23.09)
Typical, don't make sense Arab talking on this board. Why don't you live in Sderot and than tell me to relax and be careful not to kill any civilians in Gaza, which Israel did. In fact many leaflets, telephone calls and text messages were sent to an area where the IDF were about to blow up. No Army in the world does this. The moral of IDF were beyond any army in the world. Did Hamas warn the civilians when they fired their rockets into Israel? What would you do in response to Hamas rockets? It is funny when you say the Goldstone report also fully documented the Hamas rockets, yet Hamas representatives are free to visit any country without any worries of arrests. Perhaps you should re-examine your morals, cause you don't make sense. Remember that 1 man, such as Goldstone, can have an opinion or a recommendation, but it doesn't necessarily make him right, it's an opinion of 1 man. Perhaps you should ask Goldstone how much money he got from the enemies of Israel. Israel did not break the ceasefire. Just because they didn't give in to Hama's threats and BS, Israel didn't break the ceasefire. Like I said before, Arabs don't have morals, they have pure ego. That's what makes Jews different from Arabs. We are just a lot smarter, cleaner, use good moral. You are just mad that Israel always wins at the end. heheheh
63. Does Goldstone know that Hamas has named a rocket after him?
Rina Gurewitz ,   Rehovot, Israel   (11.23.09)
The Goldsone is expected to reach 60 kilometer in distance. May be when the next one, a Goldstone that is, hit a targeted kindergaten full of Jewish children and teachers he will realize, finally, what his contribution has been to humanity in general and to the Jewish people in particular.
64. To: No. 56
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.09)
Do you appreciate the absurdity of your comment? Hamas is not to blame for firing missiles into Israel, because those missiles were ineffective, is that what you are suggesting? The law follows intent, not efficacy. The intent was malevolent and has resulted in post-traumatic stress disorders, not to mention deaths from heart attacks and shock. Perhaps you should study more? Israel withdrew from Gaza. Hamas simply continued to abide by its charter, which calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people. I invite you to document your so-called "MIT researcher and her team." News to me. Again, perhaps you should study more?
65. To: No. 34
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.09)
War is hell. Too bad that is the option that the Arabs have resorted to on six occasions, losing each time. Too bad that terror is the option that the Palestinians have resorted to for over sixty-one years, What a shame that the Palestinians have three times rejected the offer of a two-state solution. Here's a news flash, oh dimwitted one: there isn't going to be a fourth offer. You would think they would have learned by now, but it would appear they have not. How is that the fault of Israel? Over eight thousand missiles have been fired from Gaza toward Israel's populations centers in the south. Criminal activity follows intent, not efficacy. If someone were to fire a gun at you but the gun jam, is he not guilty of attempted murder nonetheless? Yes, he is. You are a perfect fool. I strongly recommend that you get the facts, then talk. Okay? Unless you relish making quite the fool of yourself .... or is it just that you don't know any better? Sigh .... probably the latter, in which case you really should not be contributing to this website. Or do you relish having your "arguments" picked apart and ridiculed?
66. To: David at No. 58
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.09)
KOL HA'KAVOD!!!!
67. Charlotte
Daniel ,   Manchester   (11.23.09)
Your hate filled diatribe that blames Israel and only Israel is typical of those who can never accept that the Palestinians might be to blame. The difference between the Hamas rockets and Israeli rockets is that Hamas deliberately fires their rockets at civilians, I bet you choose to ignore know that Hamas times its rocket fire to coincide with the start and the end of the school day when people are walking their children to and from school. It is only a matter of luck that a rocket did not hit a school or kindergarten does that make it acceptable? Israel, despite what Idiot Goldstone says (relying solely on Hamas hearsay without looking for evidence) does not deliberately target civilians and went to extraordinary lengths to minimise civilian casualties. In wars, civilians get killed fact. If you chose to base your arsenals in civilians areas and use your own people as human shields so you can maximise their deaths for propaganda purposes, civilians will unfortunately be killed. I believe that that is one part of the report that Idiot Goldstone got right when he accused Hamas of war crimes for doing that or do you want to ignore that piece of the report. Sarah rocks and is not an embarrassment; you on the other hand are a bigoted, terrorist loving apologist.
68. 56
Sam ,   London   (11.23.09)
What ceasefire was that? The one where Hamas fired daily rockets into southern Israel?
69. Sarah B., Gaza is still occupied...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (11.23.09)
The Goldstone Report explains this at length, perhaps you should read the entire report then you would have a better grasp of the facts. The report also found, as I have already written to you, that those rockets and mortars were indeed a war crime and a possible crime against humanity. The report also documents the PTSD and all that goes with it. And your shrill claim that Hamas lives to "exterminate the Jewish people" is nothing but hogwash. Learn the difference between Zionist Entity and Israel, that'll help your thinking on Iran as well. And on the MIT study, if you don't know of it, then you simply are not informed enough to be the screaming harridan that you are in the talkbacks.
70. Sorry, but #62 was my post to BBS
Eyal ,   USA   (11.23.09)
71. OJ simpson deffender ???????,wow
shocked ,   Jerusalem   (11.23.09)
you guys ,how low you can go . i heard that people spit on this guy in the street all the time . please ,not that one belligerant .
72. Daniel, reading comprehension problem?
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (11.23.09)
Sarah B. is an embarrassment, and apparently you have a reading comprehension problem. You folks are trying to discredit a report that found Palestinian militants to be liable for war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. That part you want to cherry-pick out of there, just like Israeli propagandists have been doing for decades. But you want to exonerate Israel of the crimes it committed so you are willing, even eager, to do everything in your power to make sure Hamas gets off scot-free so Israel can skate on past the Rule of Law as well. That ship already sailed Daniel. I am among millions that watched live on sat TV what Israel did in Gaza. Only when the perpetrators of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity on BOTH sides are frankly and fairly dealt with, will Israel gain any shred of dignity back in terms of world standing.
73. Sam, Hamas kept the ceasefire and you know it...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (11.23.09)
All of the time line is so well documented that you are really only embarrassing yourself just as Sarah B. does with her ceaseless revisionist history. As always, I wonder how it is those of her ilk think they are defending Israel when y'all really come off as more obnoxious than Dersh himself.
74. BBSNews #73 you are full of it
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.23.09)
Hamas fired 3,000 rockets and that was keeping the ceasefire? What a moron. Everything you write is a lie. Seems a lot of racists have an issue with Dershowitz calling him names because OJ Simpson was not convicted. Professor Dershowitz was on of a team of lawyers that did what they were hired to do.
75. BBS news has arrived on YNET...
Malone ,   Hfx   (11.23.09)
...this site is now contaminated by a REAL anti semite.... He terrorized Haaretz for years to the end that nobody will respond to his lies...so he is moving to YNET.. Just wait for it!
76. BBS = BS
Eyal ,   USA   (11.23.09)
BBS is just as dumb as he sounds. Trying to teach us moral...hehehehe BBS is full of BS, still in junior high school trying to educate himself. Even when you try to teach Arabs in school, they just don't get it. :) hehehe
77. #72 - WARNING
Eyal ,   USA   (11.23.09)
Anything coming from a Palestinian or a Muslim is a lie... Please remember that. They lie about everything to get what they want. That's what happens when you deal with in-humane, barbaric parasites like the Arabs, specially BS...sorry I meant BBS. heheheh hohohohoh heheheh
78. #9 - Your understanding of law is why we have problems
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
Claiming Dershowitz spits on "the law" when he defends Israel is exactly why the law is manipulated by Leftists and Arab criminals the world over. The law, no matter where, is never to be defined out of context. What Dershowitz does is give the claims against Israel a context - thousands of rockets on civilians, constant warnings by the Israeli govt, constant offers of peace to "palestinians" and constant actions to protect civilians which Col. Richard Kemp testified in the UN about. The law is neither helpful nor fair when given the spin of an agenda, which the Left seems to have a habit doing always. It's the same Left that uses the "law" to justify Arab terror and the blatant slaughter of civilians, whether in Israel, Darfur, Kurdistan, or S. Lebanon. Even when the law is clearly written, your ilk twist it or just ignore it. Dershowitz is a shining star in a very hateful, egotistical, self-righteous world with an ugly agenda...and that agenda is not equality. You should know this well...being from Chicago, Obama's hometown.
79. #12 - your claim is a sign of your ignorance
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
"If Israel had nothing to hide...should have cooperated with Goldstone" Well, it seems you missed all of the pre-Goldstone report interviews and events that would have answered your question. Goldstone made his views of Israel's guilt clear even before the investigation commenced. Is it common in UAE to cooperate with corrupt judges and authorities, and hope for a different outcome?? You might also be ignorant of those who DID cooperate with Goldstone, giving him their testimony of constant Hamas war crimes....a testimony that Goldstone fell asleep at! Col. Kemp and his expert testimony on IDF's activities and their work to protect civilians? IGNORED! The sources of Goldstone's claims? From Hamas itself, and he admits that. So, exactly what part of "fair" did you expect Israel to cooperate with? There AIN'T any.
80. #26 - According to polling, Dershowitz DOES represent majori
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
"His views do not represent the majority of jews in america. " You might want to leave your bubble called "NYC" and talk to the rest of America one day. Several polls showed a majority supporting Israel, considering "palestinians" as thugs and terrorists, considering Cast Lead as a Defensive War, consider the UN as a biased and useless organization, and consider the Goldstone report flawed and extremely biased.
81. #27 - Lawyers are not as free as you claim
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
Despite his defending of OJ, I consider Dershowitz a very good lawyer and very intelligent. The point is here in the US, lawyers are not allowed, by law, to choose who they defend, outside of those who can pay the fees. This is to protect all people and provide them access to the court system and a fair trial. Many lawyers have admitted that they disliked their client or knew they were guilty, but couldn't deny them a defense. Surely we have laws in Israel that provide all citizens access to the court system, right?
82. #34 - Thank you for bringing up numbers
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
"How would you characterize the killing of 7,398 Palestinians against 1483 israeli's" I appreciate that you brought to light the one thing that your ilk ignores - Israel goes to great lengths to protect its citizens with bomb shelters, early warning systems, and placing military bases away from population centers.... compared to your beloved Arab terrorists who DO place weapons in civilian homes, use civilians as human shields, and send women and children as suicide bombers when they should be at home tending a family or in school. Those incidents I mentioned are war crimes and crimes against humanity, as written, in black and white, in Intl conventions and laws. You decry the death of a Gazan child by the IDF but fully ignore the theft of thousands of children's youth by Hamas, the theft of a future by a group that purposely will not spend money on an economy, and use Islam as a justification to create the biggest apartheid of them all....a massive ethnic cleansing of the region! Your ilk cries for the child who was killed by a Jew but feign caring over the entire populace because self-destruction is apparently a human right in Islam. It's really the children that suffer and create the true vision of a monster - YOU, who ignores their calls for a peaceful life. Your number are suspect too as most "palestinian" numbers include terrorists who wear civilian clothes, those who died a natural death, and re-counting "palestinians" to up the numbers.
83. dershowitz made me an athiest
mahmoud ,   usa   (11.23.09)
once he was asked a question by a tv reporter,if you were on one of the 9/11 planes and you knew in 30 seconds you will become history.would pray to g*d,he said hell know,i would use my cell phone to dial my wife and tell her i love her.this man is a romantic poet during imminent danger and tragedy
84. Eyal, sadly you represent Israel, and not for the good...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (11.23.09)
...it is appalling that anyone would write the following as you did: "I prefer the death of 1.5 million barbarian, non-human parasites, than the death of 1 Jew in Israel any day. heheheh " Who during the last century wrote and spoke just like that Eyal? No one, not Iran, not Hamas, not Hezbollah has EVER threatened to wipe Israel off the map. That's been debunked for over four years now. Learn the difference between the Zionist Entity and Israel. There is a huge difference.
85. # 84 - Not in my books
Eyal ,   USA   (11.23.09)
Israel and Zionism are 1 to me. To some (minority) it's 2, but to me it is 1. How naive are you exactly? Did you say Iran never threaten to wipe Israel off the map? What are you on? Are you really that dumb? Hezbollah threatened to shove Israel to the sea all the time? How old are you exactly and where do you get your education exactly? I know Palestine University :) heheh You say you live in Charlotte, which has all the necessary educational facilities to get you going on life and the world we live on, yet you never took the opportunity to study or read some of what Ahmadanijad says? I seriously advise you to take a gun and shoot yourself in the mouth, you will see 72 naked females or males. Click here, you will like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go You sound like Achmed the Dead Terrorist
86. #55 - Exactly - "saw" but wasn't there
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
You have proved the very pro-Israel supporters claims...that those who are anti-Israel have little or no understanding of the situation there and routinely accept the piece-meal feeding of situation without true context as "truth". Because you sit in your mountain top in NC with a satellite tv, suddenly your a global expert on a situation? Your statement underscores the global view of Americans - as self-centered, uneducated people on global issues, with a big mouth. You give us all a bad name! What you don't see - whether that is due to media blocking or due to Israel morality against it - are pictures of bodies torn apart by Arab terrorists. Did you see the "palestinians" dipping his hands in the blood of an IDF reservist after they lynched him in 2000? Surely you did if you have satellite TV as RAI (Italy) made the report. Or perhaps not because Arafat claimed that any reports like this in the future will place journalist's lives in danger. So....how much do you trust your news program? As much as your govt when they claim to have your best interests in mind? As Moe from the 3 Stooges said to Curly "Stop thinking. Every time you do you weaken the nation"
87. #56 - Please provide link to MIT study
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
In addition, I can provide you several intl studies that have shown that terrorist attacks occurred well in advance of an Israeli response. Did the MIT researcher mention the use of other terrorists like Islamic Jihad and PRC to carry out attacks for Hamas, or just those that Hamas admitted to? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. In addition, you purposely ignored the many rockets that fired into Israel and bombs placed on the border to kill IDF soldiers on the Israeli side of the fence, leading up to and immediately after the Nov 4th deadline of the cease fire. This too on the heels of Israel stating they'd like to keep the cease-fire going while Hamas stated early on they would never continue it, and increased aggressions immediately after it.
88. #69 - Gaza NOT occupied based on Oslo Accords
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
According to the Oslo Accords, signed by the "palestinians", the rights to water, air, and sea in Gaza are still to remain in the hands of the Israelis while Gaza goes down the path of self-rule and the 2-State solution. The Israeli withdraw from Gaza was to move that process ahead but instead was an opportunistic event that Hamas used to establish a terror base. One would think that a "country" trying to build an economy and infrastructure would NOT rip up sewer pipes to build rockets, NOT trash advanced greenhouses, and NOT fire on border crossings and industrial zones which are the life blood of the very population. By intl law, because Gaza is NOT a State, it can be contained by its neighbors if such action of that entity threatens the civilians of its neighbors, as Gaza already does and did for 8 years. As for your claims on Hamas....I suppose you know better than Haniyeh and Mashaal who routinely mention their goal of Israel's destruction and its people IN THEIR CHARTER. You don't have to believe it or accept it, but the people who matter in this situation - Israel and Hamas - DO! You're just an outsider with too little brain matter and too much time on his hands. Too bad the WTO isn't meeting this month or you could join the direction-less anarchists. Twit!
89. #72 - Speaking of "reading comprehension problem"
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
"a report that found Palestinian militants to be liable for war crimes and possible crimes against humanity." And to which the Human Rights Council and the UN ignored, which Goldstone said was to his dismay. In other words, the global community followed his lead - they ignored the reports that were critical of Hamas and could put most "palestinians" on trial for war crimes, while they accepted in full his claims against Israel - which Goldstone admitted came from Hamas testimony and Gazans who testified in fear (of saying anything bad against Hamas). Goldstone specifically said days after releasing his report that it contains NO legal basis for his claims against Israel. So, it's not so much a "reading comprehension" problem you have but more of an internal racist problem you have when making arguments that support a pre-defined agenda rather than equality. How's your saying go..."Yes We Can"?
90. #72 - Did you watch the action or the result?
William ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
"I am among millions that watched live on sat TV what Israel did in Gaza" One question - did you SEE the IDF in action and exactly what they did or did you see the aftermath and take as fact the "cause" reported to you? Here's another question: Hamas planed IEDs next to civilian buildings to kill IDF soldiers. The IEDs were estimated to be north of 400 pounds....ask any US soldier in Iraq what that means and they'll tell you it's a huge explosion. So, what if that IED went off, either killing IDF soldiers or by accident. Would it be enough to bring down a whole building? Would it be enough to kill scores of civilians? Hamas admitted they placed these all over the city and there are several videos of their result after being detonated by IDF bomb crews. So, if Hamas admits to placing all of these bombs that can bring down buildings around the city.....wouldn't it their fault for placing civilians in harm's way? Shamefully, I bet your satellite tv missed that admission of guilt by Hamas, huh?
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