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Jewish lobby wages war on Christmas trees
Ari Galhar
Published: 08.12.09, 07:51
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91. What will they say in my birth country now ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.10.09)
Where there was , and probably still is , a big Hanoukkiah placed in a very mixed neighborhood , and at a crossing with much in and outgoing trafic . Not to talk about the Chabad Chanoukkiah on one of their cars . What will this lobby say if they do the same as this lobby does : a war against it ?
92. Gay Christmas Tree in San Francisco City Hall
Jess Smith ,   San Francisco, CA   (12.11.09)
Check out how San Francisco celebrates the holidays. Annually a LGBT group creates The World's Tree of Hope in SF City Hall. It is cover with thousands of orgami cranes each inscribed with wishes send in from around the world. Obama, Clinton, Jane Goodall, Pelosi have all sent in wishes as well as everyday folks from around the world. One can send a wish in online for free at: http://www.rainbowfund.org/tree The tree is stunning - they are adding wishes through out December. They will print your wish, fold it into a crane and place it on the tree. It is billed as a project promoting, peace, love and humanitarianism for all people on earth. Now that is the real spirit of Christmas.
93. #92 and Christmas
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.11.09)
For me, Christmas is more about the belief that Jesus is the Messiah and will come again to rescue us from our fallen world. It gives people a reason to hope and to celebrate.
94. 93 , Marilyn .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.11.09)
Are'nt you one of those lonely believers ? Where i lived in Western Europe xmas was a feast with a nice tree , but most of all , plenty of presents for the children in the Gentile families . It was , as i could see it when we were shopping , a big business , much food , restaurants offering special menus . Not religion related at all .
95. #94
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.11.09)
We do have the trees, the lights, get togethers, too much food, presents, and all. And it's great and it's beautiful. However this is not enough, cause we need the spiritual aspect and ideas of forever.
96. 95 , marilyn , no religion needed
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.11.09)
It's the "people's opium" , and people in the 21st century do not believe in tales anymore .
97. 93 , you "messias" has brought us a "nice" world
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.11.09)
with millions of people murdered in his name . " to rescue us from our fallen world" , you wrote . Sad that there are "people" who can believe in such a "rescuer" in the 21st century .
98. Merry Christmas!
Laurie ,   Nova Scotia, Canada   (12.12.09)
Merry Christmas, everyone! :)
99. Lobby for Jewish values
M.J. Kamalakar ,   Thane, India   (12.12.09)
The campaign by the Lobby for Jewish values against Christian symbols reminds one of what St. Paul said of the Jews: "Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness has not attained to it...because they did not seek it by faith (but)..stumbled at the stumbling stone" laid in Sion (Romans 9:31-33; Isaiah 28:16). Christ-mas is but a fulfillment of Genesis 3:15, Isaiah 7:14 and 9:6,7. The Lobby's campaign really denies the God of the Torah.
100. Tolerance
Gene Williams ,   Tampa, USA   (12.12.09)
Jews are such a tolerant race. I think christian dominated america should ban all things jewish. It's good to see we agree on the corruption caused by each others teachings. Hatred should be reciprical. Israel has no problem spending all those christian foriegn aid checks.Or using all that free military equipment. You didn't mind being liberated by christians at the death camps. Lets call it even and part our seperate ways, thanks for the gratitude.
101. 100 gene
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.12.09)
Yes , liberated by Christians , but this liberation was not their goal . And remember : Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army as was Poland . They were not such "good" Christians i think . Remember something other : People give nothing for NOTHING . The aid we receive is not 'philantropy" it's supporting the only TRUE friends you have in this region . And the "free" is not free at all , we have to "obey" , not to export our own products . Of course , we appreciate your help , it's our MUTUAL interest .
102. xmas trees
captaindawg ,   USSA   (12.12.09)
Why would a Jew celebrate this nightmare? BECAUSE OF IGNORANCE. Before you go putting up an f****g tree, think about how all the Jews of Rome were paraded by the vatican on Dec. 25, while pelted with feces and garbage, IN THE LATE 1800'S. That's 120 years ago , folks. Have a little self respect, already. Why would you want to participate in this pagan b.s.??? I am Ben Avraham, and I would like to destroy all my warm and fuzzy xmas memories WITH FIRE. pooof...
103. Charles
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.12.09)
People sin. It is perhaps one of the biggest problem in the world and there is much suffering because of this. Death is another. In the grand design of everything, there's got to be reasons why these things exist. I haven't gotten everything figured out, (it is in many ways impossible because we don't have all the info), but as long as I know things will be made right eventually, I'm ok.
104. 102 , ex goy , give your references please
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.12.09)
Or have i to say , as my , Jewish , Mother ZL said : a goy blabt a goy . [ a goy stays a goy }
105. 103 , Marilyn . Sin against wich laws ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.13.09)
There are ONLY civil laws to obey .
106. Charles
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.13.09)
I'll use this as an example, when riding my horse we work on being in harmony. If I'm riding really out of sync, then there's a possibility that I'm going to fall off and get injured or at least have a sore back. With sin, there is also an issue of being out of sync. There are things that naturally result from such and changing categorization does not change the outcome.
107. 106 Marilyn
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.13.09)
you can believe in wathever you want . For you homosexuality is a sin , for me not [ and i'm not gay at all , the contrary ] This as an example . For me religion is needed for weak persons who NEED something to direct their life , otherwise they are lost . Let's agree that we can't agree . That's all and more than enough for me .
108. Christmas in Israel
Ferdyb ,   Hastings, UK   (12.13.09)
I am glad that you were able to leave the US to go and live in a Jewish State, i.e. Israel. Make time to think of all the Palestinians that are not allowed to go and live in their own Palestinian State.
109. 108 in the UK , they have their state !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.13.09)
They have gaza , jericho , ramallah and even Jordan as their place . And as last ressort they can always "enjoy" your "hospitality"
110. Charles
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.13.09)
Ok, we'll agree with each other that we do not agree on some things.
111. So quit taking our money
Jim ,   Chicago USA   (12.14.09)
All you who've posted here complaining of horrible Christians, Chritmas trees and having to suffer through Christmas in the USA, please be consistent and get your government to quit sucking the billions a year that come from mainly Christian American taxpayers!!!
112. Jim , read my # 101
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.14.09)
We are the ONLY true allies of the USA in this region , this cooperation is in our mutual interest .
113. What's good for the goose ..
imafreeagent ,   Florida   (12.14.09)
When Netanyahu hosts an annual Christmas dinner in the Knesset, complete with Christian crosses, candles, Christmas carols and a priest to bless the honey-baked ham, I may change my mind.
114. minorahs
Phil ,   England   (12.15.09)
How about pulling down the disrespectufl menorahs in the white house...like with like. How do these Jews feel about recieving Christian tax money from the USA...perhaps Christian tax payers should be exempt from paying it.
115. 112 charles
Phil ,   England   (12.15.09)
112 charles....Israel is the only true ally in the region for the USA? How is this so with the Lavon affair..the attack on the US Liberty and spying? And would 911 of happened without this spcial freindship? Liability in the region more like.
116. "Lobby for Jewish values"
Knot Jammin, Jr. ,   Atlanta, Ga   (12.15.09)
So maybe, We Christians lobby congress to stop giving Israel money!!!
117. Revolting
Patriot ,   USA   (12.16.09)
I find this disgusting and have emailed this article to many including rights organizations. The one thing which shows the ignorance of such people is that they call the Christmas tree a christian symbol - it's not.
118. Israel is a Jewish State
Jack ,   Oakville, Canada   (12.16.09)
To 48: Fine, then also keep your friggin' kosher food where it belongs: your JEWISH STATE! Versteh?
119. The menorah in the White House
Rick ,   Philadelphia   (12.16.09)
You know what? The menorah offends me, and it shouldn't be in the White House! Likewise, I'm going to rush right down to my local supermarket and protest the candles they have there. What a bunch of hypocrites. Whiny B@stards!
120. Secular democracy
netizen ,   Canadia   (12.17.09)
Ahh, yet another sterling example of the joys & wonders that go hand in hand with being the only Secular Democratic nation in the region.
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