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Settlers vow to violate freeze order
Efrat Weiss
Published: 05.12.09, 21:48
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1. Another proof that Israel LIES all the time
Paco ,   Canada   (12.05.09)
and does not honor its words. Nothing new really, war and NOT peace is the only way to clean up such a mess from the ME. The illegal activities of israel and the land robbery will never stop otherwise!!
2. Interesting to see how an MK...
DkS ,   J'lem   (12.05.09)
...is actively encouraging Israeli citizens to break the law and defy government orders. She should step down immediately from her position. Israeli democracy is bankrupt indeed since it doesn't apply to law-breaking settlers or MK's, only to those who wish to adhere to it.
3. lawbreakers
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.05.09)
Lots of room for them in Lev Leviav's empty privatized jail
4. #2
Amih'ai ,   Jerusalem   (12.05.09)
I'd love to see your comment about how the arabs mks keep on doing this. Or even when mk from meretz or avoda are doing the same in time of war like some of them did during cast lead. In this case, the illegality is clearly the governement policy which just focus on one category. In any other place, you'd call this kind of law "racist".
5. NO LIFE FOR OTHERS if it is possible
Tomorrow   (12.05.09)
WHAT RESPECT ISRAEL EVER HAS FOR THE OTHER LIVES ? settlers are not from moon. they have same israeli blood which means ; no life for others ! IF IT IS POSSIBLE ! understand ? Atilla Karagözoğlu
6. The LIE of a Palestinian State
Dan ,   Titusville, FL   (12.05.09)
How many times must we hear the Palestinians say "NO" to a State before we believe them. PM Netanyahu erred this time by putting in a freeze under pressure from Obama. He should have told Obama to stop building in America until all racial discrimination is ended. The West Bank and a UNITED Jerusalem are sovereign Israeli property. The Palestinians have their paradise that they made of Gaza.
7. :: A Simple Solution
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.05.09)
Any illegal settler who continues to build in defiance of the freeze order should have his illegal building bulldozed. This is quite do-able as the IDF has years of practice in bulldozing Palestinian houses. As is IDF practice and procedure the illegal settler(s) should be given approx 15 mins notice to remove all furniture, valuables, infirmed relatives from the building before it is flattened. This simple solution should dissuade any illegal settlers from breaking the freeze order. Anyone care to second this?
8. White Paper circa 2009
Ben Gorion ,   Tel Aviv   (12.05.09)
The people gave this government a mandate for a Zionist government, instead they return the people to the days of the British mandate. We want a Jewish rule here, not a foreign rule. When Barak and Bibi can pass this with a majority it becomes government policy. Until then this is an illegal policy.
9. #6
Addle ,   Toronto   (12.05.09)
"He should have told Obama to stop building in America until all racial discrimination is ended. " That doesn't make sense. "he West Bank and a UNITED Jerusalem are sovereign Israeli property. " International law and the Geneva convention beg to differ. "The Palestinians have their paradise that they made of Gaza. " Not so much of a paradise but the world's largest open air prison.
10. Inherently flawed yet perfected fraud of democracy
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (12.06.09)
Ever since the anti-individual, anti-freedom and anti-self identity of the AJC supported Mapai denied a constitution to Hillel Kook and am Yisorel, democracy was DOA for the land of the Yehudim in its newly man-made state. In the guise of democracy, your people have been murdered in transit when they tried to support your continued presence in the land of your own name (e.g. Altalena mass-murder by ben gurion, rabin et al). More recently democracy is stated as a mantra to justify the destruction of Yehudim in the land of their own name by the Likudim, the exile of Hebron by BB, The exile of Gush Katif and implementation of the Mitzna plan by Sharon, Ammona by Olmert (and his planned demise of others) and again BB who voted over&over&over&over again to destroy 10000 Yehudim lives and 22 Torah learning centers claims even more generations by disturbing the lives of those who love the land. BB gave the first land of the first Yehudi away and Yerico. All due to the fraud of democracy. As one before me has said, you are not the victim you allow it. It was written on the walls, ceilings and floors, yet you let act against you, the Likud platform and referenda and common, natural rights of Yehudim living in the land of their own name. And Oren volunteers to destroy your lives and future generations and call it a democratic process instead of disenfranchisement. DO YOU GET THE HINT? Man made things are inherently flawed.
11. The end result 1) the world bears witness to the fabrication
Jae ,   Yerushaliyim, Israel   (12.06.09)
of a so called palestinian nation that never existed until the idea of Jewish return to sovereignty existed. For all these 1,800 years since the last Jewish sovereignty in the Jewish homeland, never a palestinian nation, never a palestinian currency, language, army, capital, nothing, nada , zilch Jordan is the solution. the tiny foreign born, british implanted, hashemite clan's days are numbered b'ezrat Hashem. it can RETURN to being what it was- Palestine.
12. #9 Int'l Law Supports Israel.
Dan ,   Titusville, FL   (12.06.09)
International Law supports the West Bank & a UNITED Jerusalem as sovereign Israeli land. The Palestinians five times waged war and a terrorist attack. They lost and their land was forfeit. Jerusalem as in Jordanian hands and we liberated it when we defeated Jordan. In any event the UN is an anti-Semitic racist organization with no credibility. They have never helped any Jewish refugee or promoted/assisted bring Jews who were being exterminated in Islamic countries to Israel. The Un never criticized any Islamic country afraid they would be blown up. To hell with your international law.
13. Matty, I concur. Fair is fair...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.06.09)
...and it will really be ironic to see the illegal colonists then calling for a boycott of Caterpillar.
14. Law? What Law? No Law.
Thomas ,   Dixieland USA   (12.06.09)
There is no Law prohibiting building in Israel. Please cut the crap. This is an edict, or an order - but not Law! - by two intimidated coward, Bibi and Barak by the Chicago Messiah-Joker. Don't pontificate about "Law" for there is none involved and the majority is right to disregard two scared defeatist shrieking. Even Americans protested at the Tea Parties against the Messiah-Joker policies...not everybody is trembling at an arbitrary decree by these two creep.
15. Country Splitting..Take Plebiscite...NOW!
Roland Seener ,   London England   (12.06.09)
16. 'Build on truth' or 'Destroy on lies'
David ,   Shilo ISRAEL   (12.06.09)
There is only one real truth regarding the historic, as well as religous accuracy of Israel belonging to the Jewish people, including Judea and Somaria. We either build on the basis of true foundations, or G-d forbid attempt to dismantle our Jewish country based on outright & outrageous lies. I for one know the difference and what is the 'right' thing to do. This is no longer a left, right, religeous, or non-religeous equation. This is about knowing who you are as 'a Jew' (not a by-product of a foreign upbringing) and acting accordingly! Israel will be built stronger than ever!
17. Aprooting Jews from their homes.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (12.06.09)
Twenty-one Jewish communities in Gaza and four in northern Samaria were uprooted and destroyed in the August 2005 Disengagement. The abandoned territory in Gaza was turned over to the Palestinian Authority, which has been using the land for training terrorists and launching rockets at Jewish towns in the western Negev ever since. Many of the thousands of uprooted residents are still trying to put their lives together in terms of housing and employment. More about this horrible mistake at : http://xrl.us/kkjaf
18. A "simple solution" from a simple man #7:
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (12.06.09)
There are no "illegal" settlers in Judea and Samaria. Jews have as much right to reside there as Arabs. This socalled "intellect" who names himself "Matty Groves" really means: "Let's have a Judenrein Samaria and Judea while Arabs are allowed to reside in and become citizens of Israel (all 1.4 million). The paucity of "Matty's" intellectual comprehension is in inverse ratio to the amount of blundering he does around this site.
19. #9 Prattle
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.06.09)
Gaza: "Not so much of a paradise but the world's largest open air prison." It was an oasis when the Jews lived in Gaza. And they provided 5000 jobs to the Palestinians. The Palestinians even have beachfront property in Gaza which could be turned into a tourist attraction. But no, under Hamas leadership, Gaza is a sewer and unemployment is close to 60%. In spite of the multi-million dollar weapons smuggling industry and all the money provided for terror, living conditions in Gaza remain poor.
20. #18 You miss the point
Wael Ramallah ,   Ramallah   (12.06.09)
Arab Palestinians inside today's Israel have lived their for centuries and possibly millenia. Some are descendents of the ancient civilizations which were here including the Jews themselves!!! Settlers are 20th century pirates who arrived here on a EL AL 747 from New York - running around with guns and establishing colonies which are illegal according to international law. Your comparison of the settlers to native Palestinians is insulting.
21. Settlement freeze
Leonid Shagall ,   Skokie, USA   (12.06.09)
Imagine that the democratically elected government of the United States of America, or France, or Japan, or any other country on Earth decides to freeze construction of some homes for Jews for 10 months, or 10 weeks, or even for 10 days. What will happen next? All hell will break loose. American Jewish organizations will scream Anti-Semitism, Fascism, Nazism, Racism, Holocaust, etc. Rallies and demonstrations will be organized, busloads of lobbyists will be in Washington, millions of dollars raised. So why is there deafening silence when exactly same actions are perpetrated by Israeli government? Why are Israeli Jews treated like second class human beings? When Israeli Government behaves like Judenrat, we have to condemn it By doing nothing, we are worse than Ahmadinejad, Haniyeh, and Nasr Allah combined because those guys are open enemies, while we are cowards and collaborators.
22. Dan, wrong again, see UNSCR 465...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.06.09)
...your irrational and inaccurate temper tantrum has accomplished nothing. How do you expect that self-imposed ignorance helps Israel?
23. Robert Haymond, lying does not help Israel...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.06.09)
...why do you persist in it? People like you are the ugly face that the world sees of Israel, and there's no guarantee you are even there at all. Ugly because you are such an incessant liar, your self-imposed ignorance comes in a close second. I am quite sure that Matty has never called for a for that which shall Never Again happen in the West Bank. I'm betting as informed as he is, that he's also aware that Palestinian PM Fayad made quite clear recently that Israelis wishing to stay could become Palestinians and be treated as well as Arab-Israelis. Here's the sum of your comment: Devoid of facts ad hominem argument inaccuracy gratuitous parting insult In short, bull puckey.
24. #23 BS News/Matty Groves
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.06.09)
And you are the ugly American who tries to dictate where and how Israelis should live their lives. It's not illegal for them to build settlements. There's a dispute. It needs to be solved. UNSCR 242 calls on all parties to the conflict to negotiate a solution. The Palestinians have spent decades avoiding a resolution, electing instead to pursue an armed conflict. In the interim, life goes on and Israel expands for natural growth.
25. :: BBSNews - #13
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.06.09)
:)
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