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Israel gears to fight Swedish initiative
Roni Sofer
Published: 07.12.09, 08:04
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1. UN created what is Israel not Irgun, Stern & Haganah
Ann   (12.07.09)
2. No WaY
adir ,   israel   (12.07.09)
all i have to say i no way. thats it. no one will decide for israel in such things... it will bring war and the europians know it. jerusalem is our city and not europian city.
3. Time for Israel
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.09)
to recall its ambassador to Sweden and close down its embassy there. Time also for Israel to send the Swedish ambassador to Israel packing. Time for Israel to terminate its relations with Sweden. After all -- what is Sweden in the grand scheme of things? Sweden is scarcely speaking for the entire European Union. What's Sweden going to do? Invade Israel? That will be one short war, and Sweden will get its meddling nose so bloodied, it won't be funny. Not that it matters. They are not going to invade Israel. What we have here is a lot of diplomatic armchair meddling. Sweden must REALLY be terrified of its Arab and Moslem minorities. Politically, the effect of what Sweden is attempting would be the same thing as if Israel were to unilaterally declare an independent Sami state, with Stockholm as its capital, and an independent second Finnish state in Sweden with Eskilstuna as its capital -- where most of the people are Finns and speak Finnish anyway. Finally -- Israel warned the world several weeks ago that all prior "negotiations" would be off the table and a new chapter opened were the Palestine Authority to declare an independent state (Sweden cannot do it for them, after all) with East Jerusalem as its capital. Were the PA to do that, Israel has the option of doing what the Arabs did the day after Israel declared statehood in 1948. It is high time Israel annexed all of the West Bank and deported the Arabs living there to Jordan, country of their citizenship. Win - win situation. Get the Arab interlopers out of our country, and send them packing to their precious Palestinian state -- Jordan. Enough is enough.
4. to #1 witch means palis break un law
ghostq   (12.07.09)
cause they don't recognize Israel as soverine state.
5. Yeah, Sweden!
Desiree ,   Allentown, Pa.   (12.07.09)
Good for Sweden.. at least one country is doing something right. If Palestinians cannot have Jerusalem as their future capital then neither should Israel.. or let them both have it. That is fair. I am tired of Israel always taking/stealing. Now if only the U.S of America would wake up!
6. All Jarusalem is capital of Palestinian People
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (12.07.09)
Not only east Jarusalem And Israel will at the end have to lelave holly city and Muslims will again control all city, Israeli occupation and settlements rising Jewish parts larger and larger is illegal and one day Israel will return all buildings as compensation to Palestinians. There are good oportunities in Canada and rest of the world you will not remain homeless. Do not worry
7. To: No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.09)
Educate yourself, dear: http://www.globalpolitician.com/24388-israel-jerusalem There are several thousand references to Jerusalem in the Hebrew Bible. There are none in the Qu'uran. As with virtually everything else, the Palestinian Arabs are attempting to co-opt an identity that DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM. Did you know, for example, that "Palestinians" never in history referred to Arabs? The term was always used to identify Jews who lived there -- whether in Roman times, through the Moslem conquest, through the Ottoman period and, most recently, in the Mandate period leading up to Israeli statehood. The Arabs were just always called "Arabs" -- there were too few of them to qualify as an identifiable group. Present-day "Palestinians" stole that identify and appellation in 1969. Those are your thieves, dear. Taking/stealing, you say? There is a difference between "taking/stealing" and acquiring through fighting a defensive war. I think the best examples of "taking/stealing" would be European settlers in the Americas taking and stealing land from the native Americans which were the rightful owners. How do you propose to rectify that? We'll forward your suggestion to the Swedes. You are nothing but a common, garden-variety Jew and Israel-hating hypocrite, and a poorly educated and dismally informed one, at that. Have fun wallowing in your ignorance.
8. TALKBACK NUMBER 3.
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Srbia.   (12.07.09)
Time for Israel to recall its ambassador to Sweden and close down its embassy there. Time also for Israel to send the Swedish ambassador to Israel packing. Time for Israel to terminate its relations with Sweden. I AGREE. THE SWEDES HAS BECOME SO SURE OF THEMSELVES, HAVING HAD PEACE FOR 200 YEARS, THEY IN THEIR INFANCY AND UNMATURITY. THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING, AND CAN SPEAK FOR THE TRUTH, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENS OF CONFLICKTS. THEY HAVE AN HUMANITARIAN UNEXPERIENCED LEFTIST UTOPIAN VISION, WHICH HAVE CONTAMINATED THE WHOLE PEOPLE, AND EVEN THE SO CALLED BOURGOISE POLITICIANS. AND AS A SWEDE I HAVE SEEN SWEDEN GOING DOWN THE HILL FOR SEVERAL DECADES NOW. BUR THE LEFTIST ARE BLIND TO THEIR MISSTAKES, AND TRY TO MAKE UP FOR THEM WITH MORE OF THE SAME IDEOLOGI TO CURE THE DISEASE. Arn-Orao.
9. #6 Tayfun
Igor ,   NL   (12.07.09)
Bravo Tayfun, you seem to be a great wizard that prophecizes the future though I know you have never been right! Perhaps you can tell me which bonds to buy in Turkish! Cyprus. Salamet
10. If it were only up to Sweden, the nation-state of the Jewish
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.07.09)
people, Israel, would be erased from the face of earth to enable Islam to establish yet another strong-hold closer to Europe. After all, the Swedes have done all they can to demonize the Jews and their state, to de-legitimize its very being, to hold it up to standards no other country is being held. Any guesses why...??
11. #6 are you an idiot or just stupid?
Janice Cohen ,   Jerusalem Israel   (12.07.09)
just more muslim dreaming without having much of it fulfilled.
12. #5 Desiree- If Israel was in the North pole
Igor ,   NL   (12.07.09)
If Israel was in the North pole Sweden would support the penguins.
13. back to you #7
Desiree ,   Allentown, Pa   (12.07.09)
YEAHHHH FOR SWEDEN! I will have fun 'wallowing in my ignorance'.. for it is simply a case of Right vs. Wrong. and it is a fair decision on Swedens part. The bible is book of stories - if you believe that, then you must believe Alice in Wonderland.... Get back in reality the year is 2009. And as for the name calling I cannot sling any back to you because you are already filled w/hate.. i feel very sorry for you.. good luck in your greedy, self-righteous miserable life.
14. This will likely pass EU in some form with 17 backing it
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (12.07.09)
The problem with this small but important change in EU policy it that the facts on the ground will not matter and could stop Israel from pushing out Muslims with more Jewish residents. Israel set a record in the last year of stripping Muslims of their E. Jerusalem residence so they become stateless and if the Muslims were smart they would file for dual citizenship, for both Israel and Palestine. The EU is not stupid but simply over looked many problems on both sides, now they are making a stand if it helps or hurts no one knows for sure.
15. Sarah B.
George ,   Antwerp   (12.07.09)
My dear Sarah, I hereby publicly declare my upmost sympathy for your reactions on Ynet. Not that I always agree with you, because I view some of your remarks as sometimes too extreme, but in general you are right. Sweden wants - as temporary president of the EU - to make some public statements in order to distinguish herself - but do not forget that as of January 1st 2010 Spain will take over the role of presidency of EU, then on July 1st it will be Belgium etc...Each of those countries will also try to distinguish themselves by proposing ideas only to the benefit of the Palestinians. And here again I say - as I have said before - no foreign country should interfere with internal Israeli policies, not now , and not in future. If the Palestinians want to obtain what is on their wishing list they will have to fight for it. But as history shows, everything what they fought for they lost, and they also lost what they had before, stop asking for East-Jerusalem, the right of return, etc...They have no other alternative than to remain quiet, low profile, be greateful to Israel that they can still enjoy a descent life, pay taxes, respect Israeli laws in Israel and the territories.............. OR LEAVE!!
16. The God of Israel will divide Sweden!
Jaacov Baumann   (12.07.09)
17. to #12 pinguins exist only in THE SOUTH pole
ghostq   (12.07.09)
and swedenish people scared of the arab population they cave in to any demans of her Muslim population.
18. #12 don't be silly
Desiree ,   Allentown, pa.   (12.07.09)
you make me chuckel... but seriously, What Israel is doing is breaking international law by building in East Jerusalem. Did you know they revoked 4,500 palestinians from their homes in 2008 alone. That in itself, is a Nazi practice - not to mention coutless other nazi practices by Israel (Judeo-Nazism)... and furthermore, Israel is now finally recognized as war criminals.. If Palestinians cannot have Jerusalem as thier captial then neither should Israel and they can move it back to Tel Aviv. simple.. and its good to see a country that being Sweden taking iniative.. America wake up and remember the USS LIBERTY! Peace.
19. Sarah B - Why should we severe ties with Sweden?
Michael Diamant ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.07.09)
Why on earth should we severe ties with a western country? Severing ties with sweden will hurt israel more than the opposite. And it will also make israel a laughingstock because we got no reason. Your analyses of sweden and swedish society is so idiotic I have no words. And then deporting more than 2 million palestinians from where they have lived for generations.. where did you get your values from?
20. #15 ohhhh too scary
asi ,   palestine   (12.07.09)
would you like me to smile or laugh ?? here is advice , read the news carefuly anyway keep talking while we get what we want :)
21. Watch this video - Swedens Sad Future
Andrew ,   Miami,FL   (12.07.09)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg9D4uHjCXI
22. Desiree
Madeleine ,   Israel   (12.07.09)
Desiree - you are so filled with hatred and fierce anti-Semitism. go read history books, go get some education. Read the REAL facts on the ground, not the ones promoted by the paklestinians, hamas, The iranians and heaven alone knows who else that has Israel's demise at its heart. Jerusalem has been Israel's capital for 3000 years. We ar not talking about fairy tales, biblical allegories or anything else. We are talking proven, historical facts (unless you believe that world-famous archeologists also lie) . How dare any other nation, group or body tell us - what we should or shouldn't do with OUR capital. And for your informaiton Israel destroys homes of terrorists - a methjod learnt from the British when they so lovingly had hteir Mandate here - or homes illegally built. palestinians are well-known for building without building licences, so yes, their homes will be torn down. Meanwhile, keep yuor hatefilled comments to yourself.
23. #19
Madeleine ,   Israel   (12.07.09)
The Palis have NOT lived here for generations. They don't even exist as an ethnic group but are made up from migrants from all over hte Arab Middle East. Far fewer than one million fled in 1948 and most of those fled at the behest of their leaders who wanted them to leave the way clear for thei (Arab) ' conquering' armies. The rest is mostly fiction....
24. Hey Sister Sarah B.
Desiree ,   Allentown, Pa   (12.07.09)
YEAHHHHH SWEDEN! GO SWEDEN! FINALLY A COUNTRY THAT IS MAKING SENSE. SWEDEN ALL THE WAY...
25. #18 Desiree-Bet no one loves you in Pennsylvania
Igor ,   NL   (12.07.09)
You can go on with your false facts and racist stories which looks the usual pack of lies to the world. Bet no one loves you in Pennsylvania.
26. #20
George ,   Antwerp   (12.07.09)
As I said, you will never get what you want. Keep on dreaming, and if you find no issue except LEAVING, think maybe about blowing yourself up.
27. back at u #25
(12.07.09)
Everyone loves me.. and thank heavens i live in america where everyone has a right to free speech and able to have an opinion. What lies? why don't u educate yourself b4 u make accusations. Israel is aJudeo-nazi state & they did remove 4,500 palestinians from their home. sorry if the truth hurts. go to youtube. If Americans knew what israel is Doing! and also the article from the washington post israel revoking palestinians.. love you!
28. Hi big one # 25
Desiree ,   Allentown, Pa.   (12.07.09)
Yes everyone loves me.. and thank goodness i live in a country w/free speech and free thought.. what lies do you speak of??? sorry if the truth hurts you... just go to youtube and look up if every american knew what israel was doing.. then go onto www://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR20091202534.html. i love you.. try to fill your heart w/so much hate.. and go Sweden !
29. Georgie you are mean #26
(12.07.09)
Hey Georgie, better yet... maybe Iran will blow up Israel after Israel by committing war crimes once again, attacks Iran... yeah... go SWEDEN
30. Georgie you are mean
Desiree ,   Allentown, Pa.   (12.07.09)
Hey Georgie, better yet maybe it would be best if Iran blew up Israel therefore, taking the problem out of the solution.... yeah, SWEDEN.... go Palestine
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