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Israel to Vatican: We won't return room of Last Supper
Roni Sofer
Published: 09.12.09, 12:26
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1. Jerusalem, any part of it, is not for sale!!!
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.09.09)
Jerusalem, under Israel's control, has been open to all. Christians and Muslims from around the world come to visit and worship in Israel's capital city. (This, it should be noted, has never been the case prior to Israel's control over the city!!!) Jerusalem, it must be kept in mind, has never been the capital city of any people or any state, none, but that of the Jewish people, and it has held this status for more than 3,000 years. It is time to just let Jerusalem be. It is not broken thus there is no need to fix/change its status or the status of any of any of the sites in it.
2. Tell them to give us back the stuff from our Temple
A;an ,   SA   (12.09.09)
3. And what about Jewish Property?
DavidG ,   Jerusalem   (12.09.09)
How about talking about ALL the Jewish Property held by the Vatican.
4. Payback
David Chester ,   Petach Tikva   (12.09.09)
Did anybody yet charge the Vatican for the Last Supper?
5. A Fair Trade
Intelligence   (12.09.09)
The vatican should be willing to give us property in their cities. I see absolutely no reason why a religion that is so big, numerous, and well established, need to pick at the land of Israel, which is already stressed for land as it is. Perhaps the whole city of rome and venice would suffice as a trade... I apologize to all the normal Catholics and Jews. Claims like these are counter progressive and only open fronts for future contentions. Shame on any religions who play these games.
6. I HAVE A DREAM :) VATICAN & JERUSALEM&MECCA IN HAND IN HAND
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (12.09.09)
I have a dream even I am not a black man I have a dream even I am not a white man I have a dream :) *** SERIOUS ! WHY ALL RELIGIOUS AUTHORITES ARE NOT HELPING TO WORLD BUT THEY ARE IN POLITICS ? *** I have a dream that oneday ynet gives me a corner a clumm on ynet to write freely and seriously as much as I want. I HAVE A DREAMMMM :)
7. Can't the government of Israel stop itself from surrendering
Marcella   (12.09.09)
How shameful. It's all about surrendering: land, heritage, sovereignty, self-respect. The Jews did not return to Israel after 2000 years to dismantle it!
8. While I don't agree that Rome should get the 'Last Supper'
Stan   (12.09.09)
room, I do find it highly ironic that the religious want to hang on to it. Why? Because they don't believe that Jesus is the son of God. The most important night of his ministry was the 'Last Supper'. Hmm, the priests of today are really no different than the priests of Jesus's time. Very territorial, and very hypocritical. Or could it be that they could be bought out again for another 30 pcs. of silver?
9. this is how
pal ,   Jerusalem   (12.09.09)
Israel keeps itself in the international news stage . they are angering 1.5 billion muslims over the alaksa mosque ,and the whole christian world over their holy sites .. a classic occupation -self inflated importance that is self destructive very soon .
10. Jews and the Vatican
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.09.09)
The Vatican owns priceless Jewish artifacts and manuscripts. Some of these artifacts date back to the Biblical period, and were stolen by the Romans, by the Emperor Constantine (his mother Helena, actually) and during the Crusades. The Vatican should get nothing -- including tax consideration -- unless and until all of these have been restored to the rightful owner -- the State of Israel. The Vatican has for the entirety of its existence reviled Jews and either promoted their slaughter or did nothing to stop it (another form of abetting). The current pope -- as was the practice with the prior pope, as well -- does not even refer to Israel but rather to "the Holy Land." Some kind of conflict with Roman Catholic dogma which states that the State of Israel will never be restored until Jews accept the "true" Messiah. Oops! So much for papal infallibility. That said -- what right does the Roman Catholic Church have to hoard Jewish possessions? Hate me, hate my country, hate my artifacts. Oh dear -- the Roman Catholic Church being hypocritical. There's a surprise. http://www.jewishpress.com/content.cfm?contentid=24614 http://shearim.blogspot.com/2007/04/jewish-treasures-in-vatican.html
11. THE CATOLIC CHURCH IS NOT CHRISTIAN !!!.-
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Orao.   (12.09.09)
- AND IT DOES NOT OWN ANYTHING CHRISTIAN EITHER. THIS FALSE CHURCH IN THE CITY OF ROM, IS DESTINED FOR DESTRUCTION. REVELATION CHAPTER 17. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17&version=KJ21 THE GREAT HORE IS THIS FAKE CHURCH. SEVEN MOUNTAINS=THE SEVEN HILLS OF ROM. THE BEAST IS EU. THE CITY IS ROM. CHAPTER 18. THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON, THE CITY OF ROM. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18&version=KJ21 MAY ISRAEL LIVE FOREVER !!!. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWSATpx7uzk Arn-Orao.
12. ALL LAND IN ISRAEL BELONGS TO ISRAEL
zionist forever   (12.09.09)
Other than JNF land all land legally belongs to the state and property owners infact have taken long term leases. The Vatican have long overstayed their lease and its time to take back a little bit of our heritage. How much jewish property stolen over the centuries is currently in the vaults of Vatican? We can't march in and take all that back but we can insist that the property is returned to the state and in exchange it can be leased back to vatican on maybe 50 year leases. Do things that way there can be no argument of Israel trying to take away christian holy sites etc just transfer ownership to its LEGAL owner. The same thing should be done to all land owned by churches not just the catholic one. Israel isn't Vatican and its not a catholic state so time to let them know this country is controlled by the jews again and the Roman empire is gone.
13. How about returning all our lands and property
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.09.09)
Hundreds of churches have been built in our synagogues. Hundreds of thousands of Jewish artifacts have been held by the Vatican for centuries and yet they make demands of us? When are we going to do the same to them?
14. The Room of the Last Supper
Dajani Family   (12.09.09)
belongs to the Dajani family and the same goes for all the building of Nebi Daoud quarter. So it is not the Vatican's to claim or Israel's to give.
15. 14
zionist forever   (12.09.09)
Under the law ALL land except JNF owned land belongs to the state. Land owners are infact holders of long term leases ( about 99 years ) So if you think the place belongs to the Danjani family then it should be even easier for the state to take back than it is from the church. Every inch of Jerusalem belongs to the jewish people and the Israeli government is responsible for overseeing it. Non of it belongs to Vatican, Ruaaia, or the Dajani family.
16. Israel for every one
Pro Soldier ,   Puerto Rico   (12.10.09)
The Vatican want a piece of land the Palestinian want the capital ,Iran want to erase Israel, If Israel don't tight the pant is better start packing .........
17. Room for Rent?
L. King ,   Toronto   (12.10.09)
The building is not for sale, but it could be rented for special events like a Passover Seder. His Eminence and twelve of his cardinals can try and make a booking, assuming that the room is not already in use at that time. Kosher catering is also available. Last Supper Catering and Ball Room. 2000 years of satisfied customers, most of whom promise to return. Currently the building is being used as a Mosque, which may be part of the problem. ;-)
18. The coliseum should be handed over as
AY_Lamb ,   Globestan   (12.10.09)
reparations. Says right on there that is was paid for by plunder received during the "Jewish Wars"
19. Coliseum
Baron Korf   (12.10.09)
You are talking to the wrong country, the coliseum belongs to the country of Italy, not to the Pope or the Vactican City State. It was his to give before Girabaldi et al took the Papal states. But I'm sure you knew that.
20. Vatican and Jewish proporties
Sasha ,   US   (12.10.09)
Can the Israeli government raise the issue with Vatican about Jewsish properties, especially destroyed Jewish cemeteries, synagogues, yeshivot and private property of all Jewish living and dead in the countries espousing the Roman Catholicism. See the example of reparations to American Indians by the US government. That would be very appropriate context
21. #20
Paul ,   Trinidad   (12.11.09)
Always about the money
22. As along as Israel protects it..
Paul ,   Florida   (12.13.09)
..what's the problem? http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=17106&size=A
23. Completely agree with Arn-Orao
André ,   Canada   (02.16.10)
The Catholic church is nothing else than the great harlot and is just an idolatric church that God will destroy
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