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Obama approves aid to Israel, PA
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 18.12.09, 22:28
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31. Dignity is priceless.
Nour ,   Palestine   (12.19.09)
32. Hameed-Great post-Matty needs someone now to read it to him
Alan ,   SA   (12.19.09)
33. Forever elusive in the ME, Nour
Cameron ,   USA   (12.19.09)
34. Indeed, Matt, where are they?
Cameron   (12.19.09)
The usual array of types spitting anti-American venom are exceedingly silent. I am missing the required rant about the goyim, "betrayal", & "closet-Muslim". Come on, gang, don't hide in the shadows.
35. :: US$ 3 billion annually
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.19.09)
Wow, I guess I hit a nerve. Such a defensive outpouring of hasbara. I did take the trouble of reading all posts yet none of the rabid pro-Israel posters have adequately answered the question as to why Israel is getting free money (handouts of US$ 3 billion annually) when it clearly doesn’t need it. Israel’s economic rankings are: 1) 42 in the GDP global listing 2) 27 in the GNI/PPP global listing It is akin to a ‘well to do’ person getting social welfare when they have a job. Even if Israel has to spend 75% on American goods that still equates to 75% free money. As no one else can answer my question I’ll answer it myself: Israel gets a free handout of approx 3 billion annually because it is a client state of America. The yearly handout gives America a stake in Israel’s sovereignty/independence. The reason America give this free meal is simply because America wants to maintain its ‘asset’ in the ME. Personally I think the money could be better spent on more worthy causes.
36. #35 MATTY
(12.19.09)
AND I WILL ANSWER YOU AGAIN. i am not israeli. i am an iranian muslim that sees what is going on in the middle east, educated, modern, reasonable and independent in thought. i am not a aprt of hasbarra as you call it and have no interest in defending anyone except the truth. israel is not my country. america is. again, matty, how many times can one explain a simple point to you while you simply do not get it. THE MONEY IS FOR DEFENSE, NOT ECONOMY! israel is a wealthy country thnaks to their motivation, innovation, brains and the desire of jews to suceed, develope and stand out. AND THEY DO IN EVERY IMAGINABLE FIELD. this 2.7 billions is given not to sustain its economy, but to make sure that israel can defend itself against morons such as yourself that support the murderous war mongers in the middle east. yes, indeed, israel is indebted to the usa in many areas as a close ally. it is not only american interests in the middle east that this money helps. it is israel's defense and readiness to survive despite those war mongers. israel got no handouts from anyone prior to the 1973 yom kipour war. america didn't help them economically or militarily until 1973 and israel still survived, developed, advanced and won all its wars. the russians were, in the mean time, arming the war mongers in the area at the tune of billions and israel's survival was in question if this would have continued. so, the usa, in order to preserve the ballance and its foot print in the mid east against russia, started to pay attention to israel economically and militarily since 1973 so that it can survive and continue to survive. this was not only an interest of america, but a moral duty of every free thinking individual in the american democracy. israel had a right to survive and the usa thought so too. this money, again, is not a handout. if you are talking about a handout, look at all the money the arabs receive from both russia and the usa. ARE THEY NOT A CLIENT STATE AS WELL? WHY WOULD YOU ONLY COMPLAIN WHEN ISRAEL GETS THE MONEY, BUT NOT COMPLAIN WHEN ARABS GET IT????? ARE THE ARAB REGIMES NOT ALSO A CLIENT OF BOTH RUSSIA AND THE USA????? what is good for the goose is good for the gander, my friend. stop with your one sided complaints. it is not becoming. it shows you bias and stupidity. the support the usa shows israel is based on morality, judeo christian values and necessity as well. both these countries share more together than any arab nation shares with the free world. why don;t you go complain to russia for giving money to arabs? to iran? to terrorism? i would rather give money to a deserving party that encourages freeedom and democracy, innovations, rule of law, independent thinking, freedom loving, morality, advancement in medicine, high tech and other fields that advance our world rather than keeping it in the dark ages. do you know how much you personally benefit from israeli technology and medical advancements? do you know that you are able to use a computer because of israel, a cell phone because of israel, medications because they were invented in israel? medical procedures that save lives because of israel? do some research before spewing your innane comments. they make you look biased and foolish to the extreme. hameed aboughaze, iranian
37. An assembly of good points, hameed
Cameron ,   USA   (12.19.09)
I found more common sense, balance, and gratitude toward the US in your diatribe than I usually do in the majority of Israeli responses when the subject of the US arises. Keep posting on YNET, man.
38. hameed aboughaze
Rick ,   Philadelphia, USA   (12.19.09)
How can you justify giving these parasites free money when people in the United States are going without food, shelter, or medical coverage? Do you know what could be done with that $3 billion in the U.S.? Israel turns around and spits in the face of Americans with their chutzpah, "I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
39. # 35
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
Hameed, thank you for your most sane,honest, logical, unbiased post. Thank you for putting Matty Groves in his place. We Jews can recognize in you a friend of Israel.
40. # 10
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
Whoa, where have I said that Obama wants to destroy Israel ? Where have I said he is 100% against Israel. Where did I say he'd turn his back on us. NEVER put words in my mouth. Thats a very cheap & low shot Matt.
41. # 10
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
ps. I dont hate USA & I dont hate Obama, in fact I dont hate anyone nor anything. So quit bashing me.
42. The US benefits from military aid financial aid hurts
zionist forever   (12.19.09)
Obama signed it but the increase in military aid was a result of negotiations between Bush & Bibi when he was finance minister. Israel would get increased military aid ( a subsidy to the US arms industry ) and in exchange Israel would no longer receive financial aid from the US. This little deal is good for the US taxpayer. Military aid has to be spent in the US & its nothing more than a kind of buy 1 get 1 free offer. The aid is only part of the money Israel spends every year on US arms ( paid for by Israeli taxpayers ) As Israel gets a chunk of its annual military budget from the US its tied into buying US weapons. Another condition of aid is Israel spends the bulk of its annual military budget in the US. Also its given the US a veto over who Israel can sell its own weapons to and because its no longer financial viable Israeli companies don't develop some things they otherwise would have done and it would have competed with US products on the export market. The US gets much more out of military aid than Israel does. As for the money going to the palestinians that is coming directly out of the pocket of the US taxpayers.
43. $2.1 billion jobs program for the US
steve from raleigh   (12.19.09)
75% of the money must be spent in the US on US companies employing US workers. That translates to a $2.1 billion jobs program for the US. That's why. It has little I think to do with Israel.
44. Mistake
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
My post # 39 is in answer to post # 36 & not # 35
45. # 10 # 34
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
Do you holier than thou Americans think you can post your drivel on an Israeli news website, bash our Government, our policies & our people without us answering you back ? Because Obama gives Israel aid, doesnt give you the carte blanche to dictate to us about anything. You simply dont have the power to change Obama's decisions. If it hurts you all so much to see your tax-dollars coming to Israel in the way of aid, take it up with your respective congressmen, until then do hush.
46. 7
zionist forever   (12.19.09)
Nour I am sure that if you told the US taxpayers to keep their money they would be delighted to say thanks we will. If you didn't get these cash handouts how exactly are your people going to survive? Already about 2 thirds rely on at least some form of aid from UNRWA and thats not even money. You don't export anything thats going to bring substantial sums of money. You even rely on Israel for jobs. Stop the foreign aid money and even the PLO top brass will be looking to UNRWA to feed them . Please do say we don't want your money to the US & other foreign donors especially when there is a global recession those countries could all make good use of the money they are saving. Your idea of democracy is a joke. The law is says that because Hamas beat Fatah in the election the PM must be member of Hamas. After the take over of Gaza Fatah got rid of the Hamas man and replaced him with somebody from Fatah. After the elction Fatah people wouldn't accept the result that they lost and there were gun battles in the streets with Hamas over the result. Is that the kind of democracy you want, where democracy only matters as long as long as your on the winning side.
47. # 46
Israel Forever ,   Israel   (12.19.09)
Good post Zionist. Noor doesnt live in Gaza, so she has said. Though she'd like to give the aid money back to US, she doesnt care if her brothers in Gaza starve or not, nor does she care that her people cant support themselves. She is well fed somewhere in the west.
48. Careful, Birdi
Cameron ,   USA   (12.20.09)
Cop too much of that attitude, and you'll wake up one day to find your last friend has walked away. And you already live in a neighborhood where everyone waits to come after you with a knife. Be thankful for the favor the US grants you, lest it disappear.
49. People give nothing for nothing
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.20.09)
Even the USA acts in this way . The help we "receive" has to be spend in the USA , for the most of it . And i think that we buy much more than this . And as Birdi said [ i think it was she ] we can't sell our own products to whom we want because of this . Why does the USA help us ? Simply because they know that we are the ONLY true friends and allies in the whole region .
50. Ah Lord, ya gotta love it
Cameron ,   USA   (12.20.09)
Place billions in their hands, and the sour fuss & grunting is louder than ever. One does wonder whether a good, sharp kick in the ass should accompany the granting of that staggering amount of aid & finance. Could be a much more healthy, and needful, approach.
51. Obama approves aid to Israel,PA
Kate ,   Corpus Christi   (12.20.09)
The Big "O" Loser gives my taxmoney away to other countries while my brothers and sisters in America are living unemployed in Tent Cities hungry. This man Obamanation needs to get out of our country and move to the MiddleEast.
52. # 50
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.20.09)
I hope you never know hunger. I hope you always have a roof over your head. I hope you always have money in your pocket. I hope you never visit Israel.
53. # 50
Israel Forever ,   Israel   (12.20.09)
It feels good to be in the drivers seat, does'nt it ?
54. Birdi
Cameron ,   USA   (12.20.09)
With types like you roaming streets, the thought of visiting sounds about as attractive as stopping off in Tehran. Keep chewing on that lemon, and thinking on all that US aid, Birdi.
55. # 54
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.21.09)
Idiot, the aid does not reach the Israeli citizens.
56. #55
Cameron ,   USA   (12.21.09)
You & other Israeli citizens planning to oppose the move, and not accept it on some sort of principle? No. You're more than happy to have it, and any other big American gift, you sour fake.
57. # 56
Israel Forever ,   Israel   (12.21.09)
Little, bitter, frustrated,angry man.
58. #57 Hmmm
Cameron ,   USA   (12.21.09)
Just an American somewhat floored by the amount of sour bile some Israelis spit out when aided by their last friend on the planet. Take the billions, be grateful, and stop frowning & fussing.
59. Lament unqualified aid to Israel
Dr. Aaron Milavec ,   Cincinnati, OH USA   (12.23.09)
A few border police are captured for ransom and the whole of the Gaze Strip is nearly leveled to the groud. I am ashamed that Mr. Obama has continued to give free reign to Israel and to protect Israel from the multiple UN sanctions that would have been imposed had it not been for the USA veto power. Let's be frank. USA aid and its unquestioning and unconditional support of Israel has done more to recruit willing El-Quida and Hamas warriors than any other action. Mr. Bush asked, "Why do they hate us." Here is the answer. See http://www.france24.com/en/node/4954013 We in the USA cannot expect respect and peace until we begin to act justly in the Middle East. Shalom/Salaam/Pax, Dr. Aaron Milavec
60. You want to know where PA money is?
Dov ,   Seattle, WA USA   (02.15.10)
Just look in Suha Arafat's Swiss bank accounts!
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