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31. #27 - That's a good point, Matty
William ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
"...supporters cannot comprehend that all humans are equal!?" That's right. So when you ask people of your ilk and Hedy about the deaths of Israeli civilians and trauma visited upon them by Hamas for 8 years - the answer is "It's Israel's fault. They deserve it". That's doesn't seem to mimic your claims that "all humans are equal". Nor does marching in support of Gazan leaders who not only oppress their own popultion but periodically attack Christians too. I guess in your Apartheid world....some humans are more "equal" than others.
32. William, how dare you lecture me putz!
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.28.09)
Punks like you really get my goat. I have maintained since the first rocket fire that Hamas war committing *war crimes* and causing trouble for itself in the future. This DOES NOT excuse Israeli war crimes no matter how hard you give it ye olde hasbara try. I was also writing about Darfur long before any of you folks started using it as a vile talking point in the hopes that it excuses Israeli actions, and it does not. The hatred exhibited towards Hedy Epstein is beyond all reason. It is truly insanity in a little microcosm of a talkback that embodies nothing but hatred for the truth and the denial necessary to hide that truth. It is the horrible rhetoric shown by posters here against Hedy that is one of the foremost threats to Israel's future. When people around the world read how insane many of you are in the face of reality; that's why so many are turning away, it has nothing to do with antisemitism. It has to do with what Israel has become. And you are helping.
33. #3 worse than a Shoa survivor
observer   (12.28.09)
Hedy Epstein was involved in the Kindertransport & Doctors' Trial; without both the newly born Israel could have pressured GB & US respectively. Germany was blackmailed over the Holocaust to build the economic infrastructure of the infantile Jewish state. Sure, the Kindertransport & Doctors' Trial took their toll from the Holocaust effect.
34. Grandma wants to go to Gaza
Amram ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.29.09)
Supposing they let her go to Gaza, will she inquire about the well being of Gilad and ask to see him and demand that his rights be protected? That is what a grandmother should do.
35. #18 stop playing the moralist,no one needs a lesson from you
rachel ,   usa   (12.29.09)
36. #27Its not "self hating jew" its just plain "ignorant of the
rachel ,   usa   (12.29.09)
facts jew". How is it so easy for you to find false on Israel ..and not see the real crimes against humanity going on all over the world ....your just a phony and a hater ....
37. #32if you don't understand, it just means your not too brigh
rachel ,   usa   (12.29.09)
t. ....so just mind your own business
38. The Gaza sympathizers
Michael ,   New York   (12.29.09)
Let her and the rest of them starve... they want a hunger strike? Fine. let them have it. Where were they when Sderot was being rocketed? Screw them.
39. #27 Matty - ALL HUMANS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL!
Umm El Kul Naqba   (12.29.09)
If all humans were created equal, then HAMAS should be exchanging one Terrorist for Shalit and not 500. In previous exchanges the exchange rate was one Israeli for a thousand and one for 1500 Arabs. For HAMAS, IJ, El Aqsa, and PRC PALs are worthless and disposable. This is why they use them as human shields and exploit them to be suicide bombers. If you look at the contributions to science, medicine, technology, movie industry, music industry, and on and on, the contributions of Jews/Israeli is dramatically disproportionate to their numbers. We were competing in the Olympics while PAL terrorists were committing acts of terror at the Olympics in Munich. We were freeing the hostages at Entebbe while PAL terrorist were hijacking planes and committing atrocities all over the world. We too fought for civil rights in the 60's and countless other social causes inspite of a history of persecution (Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, WW I and II, etc.) But the biggest lesson was the Holocaust. When confronted with an enemy who is uncompromisingly committed to our Total Destruction, Israel and the Jewish People, compassion and humanity are totally irrelevant. The PAL terrosts began the Intifada 1 and 2 infiltrating our cities, blowing up innocent people in the Park Hotels, Heb. Univ Cafeterias, Sbarro's pizza, countless buses, Tractor terrorism in Jerusalem, and countless others. Our highly effective counter-terror response is checkpoints, border crossings, Fence, targeted assasinations, and 11 bullets to the head of a terror at the scene of the attack (eg Dimona and Jerusalem Tractor was only 4 bullets). Take no prisoners that Traitor Olmert might release or that they might kidnap an Israeli to exchange for. Unlike the Nazis, these terrorists are very clear in the HAMAS Charter about their goals of destroying us. As such they must be destroyed and I have no sympathy for their supporters or those who put them into PAL govt to murder us and other PALs such as FATAH. To say that we are in any way equal to PALs is insulting and beneath contempt.
40. Sounds like our Cindy Sheehan - another loser
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (12.29.09)
How often do you think she references her "Jewish" credentials when she's NOT slamming Israel? In my book she's just another left wing nut-job. Maybe at 85 this is her way of remaining "relevant".
41. ISRAEL, JEWS, THE WORLD, TALKBACKS, ANTI-SEMITIC HATREDS
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (12.29.09)
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO GIVE NEGATIVE TALKBACKS ABOUT ISRAEL HERE ON YNET AND ELSEWHERE AT EVERY CHANCE THEY CAN GET. THEY DO NOT NEED MUCH OF A REASON AS WE CAN SEE. SOME COUNTRIES OR GROUPS GET AWAY WITH MURDER AND THERE IS " NO TALKBACKS, OR NO COMMENTS " , AND NO REPORTS IN THE NEWS MEDIA. HOWEVER, IF ISRAEL DOES ONE LITTLE THING, ..... WELL IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS, AND ANTI-ISRAEL PROTESTS APPEAR AS IF WELL REHERASED AND SO ON.. CHINA GETS AWAY WITH MURDER, SLAVE - LIKE LABOR AND THE WORLD JUST SELLS THEM ANYTHING JUST TO MAKE MONEY. CHINA'S WALL IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ISRAEL'S " WALL OR BARRIER ". THERE IS THE CHINA PHYSICAL WALL AND THE PYSCHOLOGICAL CONTROL WALL APPLIED TO IT'S CITIZENS ..... AND DON'T FORGET T I B E T. MUCH OF THIS CRITICISM COMES FROM ...... WELL, YOU CAN SEE THE POSTERS WHO DON'T LIKE ISRAEL HERE, IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT. SOME ANTI-ISRAEL YNET POSTERS COMPLAIN THAT THIS SITE IS FULL OF HATRED AND PASSION. TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ANTI-ISRAEL " ACCUSERS AND THEIR OWN ANGER AND PASSIONS "...... AND FOR WHAT, DO THEY HAVE MORE RIGHT TO BE MAD AND CRITICAL THAN ISRAEL'S CITIZENS ? WE DO NOT DIVERT FROM THE TOPIC AND TRY TO GET " DARFUR " IN FOR NO REASON. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN DARFUR ARE TRUELLY SUFFERING FROM GOVERNMENT MURDERS, RAPES, ENSLAVEMENTS........" BIG-TIME" ! DARFUR IS A PROPER SUBJECT HERE AS IT HAS MUCH MERIT, MORE SO THAN MANY OTHER CONFLICTS.... CERTAINLY THEY MERIT MORE THAN THE ARABS WHO HAVE TONS OF MONEY BUT BUILD ROCKETS INSTEAD........AND IN DARFUR THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY TO BUILD ROCKETS. LOOK AT THE ARABS LEADERS LINGING THEIR POCKETS, AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN WORLD AID GOING WHERE ?. THE ARABS SEEM TO LOVE TO HATE AND FOLLOW THEIR HORRIBLE LEADERS. WHAT BOTHERS PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS IS THE INORDINATE AMOUNT OF ANTI-ISRAEL SENTIMENT ACCORDED TO THE " ALLEGED ISRAELI CRIME ". COMPARE THIS ANTI-ISRAEL VOCATION TO THE OTHER TROUBLES IN THE WORLD AND THAT'S WHY WE MAY GET ANGRY. IT SEEMS OTHERS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT, BUT NOT ISRAEL. AND NO ANTI-ISRAEL TYPES HERE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT TO CONVINCE THOSE PEOPLE WITH REAL FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE. I AM NOT ALONE WHEN I STATE THAT I HAVE ACTIVELY STUDIED THE SUBJECT RELATING TO ISRAEL. WORLDS' NEWSPAPERS AT THE LIBRARIES, THE WORLD REVIEWS, STATE DEPARTMENT REVIEWS AND MANY OTHER SOURCES ARE READ , ANAYLYZED AND STUDIED, BEFORE I WILL WRITE ANY COMMENT OR EDITORIAL. WHEN I COMPARED THE MANY OTHER COUNTRIES INVOLVED AND HOW THEY BEHAVE, ISRAEL COMES OUT A REAL WINNER. TAKE A LOOK AT THE ANGER AND HATRED OF THE ANTI ISRAEL TALKBACKERS, SPEWING VENOM AT EVERY CHANCE. AFTER "DEBATING" WITH PROFESSIONAL PROPOGANDISTS OR TRYING TO GET A WORD IN, BECAUSE THEY YELL LIKE CRAZY AND ARE CLOSE TO VIOLENT WHEN OTHERS SPEAK. SOME POLITICIANS AND AWARD WINNING NEWS EDITORS HAVE TOLD ME PRIVATELY THAT THE REASON FOR THE PRO-ARAB SENTIMENT AND ANTI-ISRAEL FURY IS BECAUSE; ISRAEL USED TO BE SEEN AS THE UNDERDOG AND PEOPLE APPEARED TO LIKE ISRAEL. AFTER ISRAEL WON THE WARS, THE MOOD CHANGED AND ISRAEL WAS SEEN AS A STRONG " BULLY -TYPE ". I WAS TOLD, IT WAS NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE HATED ISRAEL AND LOVED THE ARABS. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ROLE REVERSAL AFTER ISRAEL WON THE WARS. THE NEW UNDERDOGS WERE THE ARABS OR PAL'N ARABS AS THEY WERE CALLED AND THEY NEEDED THE SUPPORT OF THE WORLD. I DON'T ACCEPT THIS SCENARIO OF " DAVID AND GOLIATH" AS IT IS CALLED. I BELIEVE THAT MUCH ANTI-ISRAEL HATRED IS ALSO JEW HATRED, AND FUELLED BY LOTS OF A R A B O I L MONEY. ALSO, THERE ARE PLENTY OF ANTI-SEMITES AROUND, IN THE U.N., AND THE WORLD MEDIA IS NO DIFFERENT.
42. To #18...Over 11 million Muslims dead - killed by Muslims
EST ,   Miami USA   (12.29.09)
during this past decade. Talk about violence of brother on brother!!! The largest number of Muslims killed this past decade was killed by other Muslims....you want to look for rot, look no further. If a person tries to usurp the tragedy of many other lives by calling herself a Shoa survivor, that person is misrepresenting her life ... among other things. If that is her claim to fame then everything else must be a lie as well...
43. To #29 Where do you think the concept of ...
EST ,   Miami USA   (12.29.09)
doing good came from? That is a basic tenet of Judaism ... to do good, regardless of religion,etc., etc. Why do you think so many Jews have always been involved in the fight for human rights and freedoms all over the world? In the US, in South Africa, etc., etc. Don't tellme that Muslims are also into doing good deeds, the Muslim religion and political life came thousands of years after Judaism was well established. Actually, they tried to hijack Judaism and are still tryinhg... The problem comes when freedoms and human rights are abused in order to impose one set of beliefs by any means available...like Palis and Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. They don't want peace, they just don't recognize the right of the Jews to exist in Israel, our ancestral homeland. They have never recognized it, they claim peace, peace, the Israelis are hurting the peace process when in reality there is no peace process with a group of people that will not recognize the right to exist of the other group...so don't preach or moralize when your moral compass is going haywire!
44. I should like to Record my Admiration for Hedi Epstein
RJBH ,   Methil   (12.29.09)
I too took part in a demonstration ... but my commitment to the people in the Great Gaza Prison fails to compare with this true Jewish hero.... Bless her.
45. Hedy Epstein, 1939, holocaust survivor
Ellen Cantarow ,   Medford, USA   (12.29.09)
What absolute nonsense! A relative of mine escaped from Europe in 1939 together with his father who HAD been in a concentration camp. It was quite possible to be interned in concentration camps, get out, and escape to Europe. 1939 was about the latest date people could get out. Such ignorance of history. Hardly surprising, sigh.
46. We should ignore the abject condemnation of the Jew-haters.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (12.29.09)
Israel is the only country which continues to provide electricity and basic services to its enemies and routinely treats thousands of Palestinians in its own hospitals, even those who have Israeli blood on their hands. And yet it is the only country which, in the court of public opinion, is condemned for behaving ‘disproportionately’ when it uses targeted military means to defend itself, and is accused of causing the very ‘Nazi’ or ‘apartheid’ atrocities of which it itself is the victim. The world has lost its correctness. More about Islam at: http://xrl.us/kkxrc
47. to #3 you wrong
ghostq   (12.29.09)
not all survivors get money from Germany, go check your facts instead of copy past, you will find it shocking that only the Jewish Germans r intitle to payments from Germany, the others don't, and they live in horrible conditions.
48. to #44 that is funny
ghostq   (12.29.09)
cause if she stood in the Israeli side in Sderot she was probably whould run for cover when she would here the alarm cause palis shoot rockets at innocent civilians. and the Blockad is for good reason. but you got short selective memory to remember what caused the Blockad, her memory isn't good either.
49. G-d promised his wrath because He KNOWS the Jews
observer   (12.29.09)
when G-d chose the city of Jerusalem He added very clearly in the writings of all the prophets that he would utterly destroy this city of Jerusalem, his seat and throne, if they would not keep his commandments. Furthermore, when Solomon had built the temple, had sacrificed and prayed to God, God said to him (I Kings 9:3), "I have heard your prayer and your supplications ... I have consecrated this house," etc.; but then he added shortly thereafter: "But if you turn aside from following me ... and do not keep my commandments ... then I will cut off Israel from the land which I have given them; and the house which I have consecrated for my name I will cast out of my sight; and Israel will become a proverb and a byword among all peoples. G-d wouldn't have said that if He had new that Jews might keep His commandments.
50. no 18, says the guy behind an acronym
Fred   (12.29.09)
51. no 32, Really Michael?
Fred   (12.29.09)
When were you doing that? Because the only screed i have EVER read is anti-Israeli.
52. Ellen Cantarow, good call...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.29.09)
...Ynet censored my post showing the link to Hedy's bio. I had asked if all those transported on Kindertransport were also "fake" Holocaust survivors as the wingnuts have wrongly accused of Hedy. I think these wingnuts who would deny Hedy Epstein's history are the lowest of the lowest scum on the entire planet. They are not fit to clean the bottom of her shoes. The utter hatred exhibited by these wingnuts for truth and reality is going to be the downfall of Israel. Not Iran, not Hamas, not Hezbollah, these winguts are the ones who are destroying Israel one comment at a time.
53. #52 Hedy Epstein is offensive
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.29.09)
While Holocaust survivors were dodging kassams and receiving treatment for shock, this woman toured US universities comparing Israels' treatment of Palestinians to Germanys' treatment of Jews. She makes a living bashing Israel and fellow Jews. She's a member of ISM and Women in Black. She travels to Israel to get to Gaza and to my knowledge, has never spoken out against Palestinian terror. She needs a new t-shirt: The Audacity of Self-Righteous Apologists of Terror.
54. Hunger Strike for Gaza
Jeremiah Gelles ,   Brooklyn, NY   (12.30.09)
Doesn't someone moderate these posts? Some of them, perhaps most, are just screeds, devoid of content. It's a waste of time reading them. I would like to see some intelligent contributions with some factual basis that would be worth responding to.
55. Hedy Epstein says
Paul ,   Florida   (12.30.09)
You show me your tattoo and I'll show you mine. She is also somewhat offended at being castigated by American christians like Cynthia.
56. #44 Oh!!!! what a saint you are !!!hahahahahahahahahah
rachel ,   usa   (12.30.09)
57. #55 Paul
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.30.09)
I don't have a tattoo but most of my family did. I'm the granddaughter of Holocaust victims and I don't appreciate Hedy using the Holocaust to promote her Pro-Palestinian agenda. Feel better now?
58. #55 Cynthia
Paul ,   Florida   (12.31.09)
Thanks for sharing. Since you have not gone through what she has just shut up and let Hedy excercise her concience as she sees fit
59. #58 Paul
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.31.09)
I'm not standing in her way. But I am expressing my opinion as I see fit. No need to be rude or defensive.
60. #59 Cynthia
Paul ,   Florida   (01.01.10)
I don't see where I have been offensive or rude. If I have, I'm sorry. You are the one who implied that Hedy Epstein is a terrorist sympathizer which is, to say the least, very offensive. She just does not agree with Israel's treatment of Palestinians and I would hope that many jews agree with her.
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