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'Minibus overturned after settlers threw rocks'
Ali Waked
Published: 28.12.09, 19:46
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1. Likely the good man was speeding
Esther ,   Ofarim, Israel`   (12.28.09)
And it's easy to blame the settlers.
2. careless driver blames Jews
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.28.09)
Of course the Jes are always to blame for everything and the Palestinias are always guiltless victims. On another note it's always a joy to see the Palestinians get some of what they serve up daily to others. As the singer Bob Dylan sang : How does it feel to be like a rolling stone.
3. The palestinians lie again.
Avi The Builder ,   Eretz Yisroel   (12.28.09)
4. Those rocks must've weighed tons to overthrow a bus with ppl
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5. Even if it was settlers, can you blame them?
William ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
For more than 6 weeks, "palestinians" have been regularly stoning cars, from Hebron to Nablus, and luckily no one was killed. Then the "palestinians" upped the stakes and shot a man in cold-blood the other day. If Arabs are going to stone Jewish cars, wouldn't it be fair that Jews stone Arabs cars? Or (according to Leftists) should settlers be considered scum and sub-human because Arabs consider them as such?
6. #2 - Careless driving is rampant in West Bank
William ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
One thing that is never reported on is the absolute careless driving that occurs there and the many deaths/injuries as a result. It might be true that settlers did stone the cars, but it could equally be true that careless driving was involved. A man who stands to lose his license could easily be excused if external forces were the result. Last year, a very sad story of an Israeli Arab family, all traveling in the same car back to Israel after visiting relatives in West Bank were ALL killed by a careless "palestinian" driver. It's not uncommon and one of the reasons Israel paved roads all over Judea/Samaria.
7. Strange how there are no marks or broken windows in picture?
Historical Observer ,   NY   (12.28.09)
You would think they would point to where the rocks hit the vehicle? Check the speedometer, I'm sure there is another explanation for this incident. Still, wouldn't surprise me if settlers were throwing rocks, just doesn't seem like a reason for the vehicle to overturn.
8. ali, cry me a river....
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (12.28.09)
your sewer pipe bursted again
9. :: Another hate-crime
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.28.09)
As always it is amusing to see the rabid pro-Israeli try and blame everything and anything except the illegal settlers for this crime. “Oh it was speeding/careless driving/a strong gust of wind/etc” If that fails there is always the old “Well who can blame the poor settlers?”. This type of mentality is indicative of people who cannot take responsibility for the actions of their kin.
10. Ali Waked's false reporting on Ynetnews again
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (12.28.09)
B"H Even if stones were thrown at them, as Ali Waked’s habitual compulsive “Palestinian” liar sources claim, they would not have caused the vehicle to overturn. Stones may lead to slow them down or to make them stop. Only if the driver is injured and looses control a car may overturn. This driver was not injured. Vehicles overturn when they speed and from the signs they leave on the asphalt it is possible to calculate their original speed. If it was more than 80 km/h, the speed limit on route 60, the responsibility of the accident clearly is of the driver and really there is no need to blow it up to a full scale ethnic conflict by our peace loving Waked. If it was proceeding slower than 80 km/h, it wouldn’t have turned over. Anyone who travels on these roads know for a fact that Arab taxis drive like crazy, speed, overtake in blind corners and with traffic coming from the opposite direction, forcing people off the road, they emit black smoke, don’t keep the minimum distance and at night drive with high beam flash lights just to mention a few standard transgressions. They enjoy the cooperation of the police, as they don’t ever do anything to punish them.
11. #9 - Matty - Didn't seem so concerned when jewish cars
William ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
were hit with stones for the past 2 months, or for the Israeli (I think you called him an illegal settler in a disparaging tone) killed in cold blood. I guess when Arabs throw stones on Jews, it's considered "resistance" and "freedom", when Jews respond, it's a "hate crime". Isn't that a form of Apartheid, Matty??
12. Stones
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
Yeah sure, the settlers stoned the palestinian mini bus & hide the stones & rocks. There were no stones to be found at the site of the accident.
13. Those were not rocks but bananas to feed poor pals
Avi ,   Tel Aviv   (12.28.09)
14. A light unto nations
The Last Zionist ,   Eilat   (12.28.09)
We certainly don't need the likes of Matty Grove, but we should demand more of ourselves. I am always impressed when the right wingnuts encourage us to be more like the Arabs. I guess it is my left wing racist upbringing.
15. Oh gosh, here we go again...
Lisa Levy ,   Israel   (12.28.09)
First of all, Arabs are THE Worst drivers, I know from personal experience. Secondly, Arab cars have deliberately run over Jews on the roads and have even killed Jews with their trucks and cars. Thirdly, right, where are the rock signs? Smashed windows? Arabs are also really good at lying.
16. #9 Matty rushes in to scream "hate-crime"
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.28.09)
Looks like an auto accident Matty. Now, get back in your box before you hurt yourself and blame Israel.
17. :: William - #11
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.29.09)
Firstly *anyone* throwing stones at cars is committing a crime. Be they Israelis or Palestinians it makes no difference. Secondly the illegal settler you refer to was called Rabbi Meir Avshalom Hai lest you forget and his death was a cold-blooded murder plain and simple. BTW William please refer me to your posting where you condemn *any* settler attack on innocent Palestinian civilians? Clearly you do not understand the term ‘Apartheid’. Apartheid means: ‘separateness’. Generally it refers to *segregation* of two cultures via social status/common law/political and economic factors etc. Israel’s subjugation of the Palestinians is a good example of Apartheid with ‘Jew-only’ roads and towns etc.
18. A good start.
Nathan Rai ,   Bangalore   (12.29.09)
Some one decided to talk to the jihadis. At last some one in Israel is thinking more about the future of their children than that Sodom and Gomorrah of Human Rights aka the UN.
19. must have been heavy rocks
david ,   new york   (12.29.09)
to have flipped over the minivan.
20. Hey Marty!
jb   (12.29.09)
"This type of mentality is indicative of people who cannot take responsibility for the actions of their kin" Well said! But its about your Pali friends, dontcha know. You and they wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass! What I find incredible is that you can actually write with your head so far up your ass. Try another site Marty or is it Achmed. You keep showing your abysmal ignorance of hearsay and evidence.
21. Hmm
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.29.09)
Not a single dent. Not a single scratch on the bright yellow paint. No broken windows. Guess it is much easier to blame mythical stone-throwing settlers than it is to explain the real reason that the minivan went off the road to the owner of the minivan.
22. "according to him" - typical Israeli reporting...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.29.09)
...when it is an Israeli, it is the "terrorist" attacked us. Within Israel's rampant colonialism, there is of course racism so when an Arab Palestinian is attacked it is Okay. This incident is nothing less than typical of Israel. Oh and for you fake Israel "supporters" out here, think before you post.
23. William, again with your duplicity...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.29.09)
...do you not see the damage you do to Israel? Are you truly that blind? "can you blame them" explains and justifies Palestinian resistance. Was that really your intention? Do you accept and value the rule of law?
24. #17 No "Jew-only" roads
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.29.09)
There are roads built for Israelis and in case you haven't noticed, 20% of Israel's population is Arab. The roads were built to protect Israelis from rock throwing Palestinians and murderous ambushes like the attack on Rabbi Hai and a similar attack that killed my cousin several years ago.
25. nonsense
enderandpeter ,   Colorado Springs, CO   (12.29.09)
Israeli settlers harassing Palestinians? Nonsense! That totally doesn't happen at all!
26. #2 Marcel quite a view you have there
Avi ,   Israel   (12.29.09)
Good job you are not a judge, do you base your judgement on an event that happened on the other side of the world according to a newspaper report ? Wake up these settlers are a violent bunch of thugs. Most Israelis wouldnt go anywhere near the west bank , not only due to Palestinian terrorists but also to keep away from the settler thugs.
27. From accident at Yitzhar to hospital in Hebron?!
Daniel Breslauer ,   Jerusalem   (12.29.09)
Yitzhar is in Samaria (the Shomron), ie, the northern West Bank, close to Nablus/Shechem (at the same level as Raanana and Kfar Saba). That's quite far away from Hebron. It's like getting wounded in Tel Aviv and being taken to a hospital in Beer Sheva. Is this a joke? As for the accident: if it is true, that is very unfortunate and I most certainly don't support such actions. Provocations and revenge won't get us anywhere. However, please do keep in mind that this is done to Jewish drivers in the West Bank daily. I don't really understand why this article needs to be so big - it should just be another sideline in the small updates section, just like when it happens to Jews.
28. makes sense
redandbrent ,   Aspen Springs, CO   (12.29.09)
Arab illegal occupiers never lie to blame Israelis? Makes sense! That totally doesn't happen at all!
29. ignore
Mary Beth   (12.29.09)
perhaps you people should make a point of ignoring talkbackers like matty, among others. Why bother answering them? Ignoring them is best. It will frustrate them as they won't find an audience for their lies and hatred. Just ignore and ignore. Nothing you say will change their blind hatred anyway. Please give it a try. We love Israel!!!
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