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Milestone in right direction
Boaz Okon
Published: 30.12.09, 12:32
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1. Easing conditions for Palestinians while costing lives
Ilan ,   Ariel   (12.30.09)
No one responsible can overlook that when access to 443 was not restricted there were 1-2 shooting attacks a month of Israeli drivers. To what extent can the court neglect that it's rulings over the years have cost hundred of lives. Preferring orphans and olive trees, than in protecting life.
2. almost what ever
ghostq   (12.30.09)
this is the most stupid article ever, almost the sun is shning almost is nothing not realy serious in terms of political thinking, just by that word he basicaly left his crrdability at home near his brain.
3. Auther is a dangerous liar
Ronnie ,   NY,NY   (12.30.09)
How is this apartheid when non-Jewish residents of the state are allowed to freely drive on these roads? Closing off the road to Arab residents of Judea and Samaria is a security decision. Your anti Israel/Jewish agenda is dispicible
4. "almost" is the right and wrong word
Jo   (12.30.09)
apartheid in south africa was nothing like the reality of what it is like in Israel/Palestine. the use of this word is misleading. there are roads in saudi that are exclusively for muslims only, the penalties being severe, none such penalites exist in Israel. The rules that do exist are purely security related and they are few.
5. Apartheid
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (12.30.09)
Arabs can travel and shop In Jewish cities without any problems. Jews are forbidden from entering Arab cities, even places like Um El Fahem? This is apartheid. Arabs can purchase property anywhere, but Jews are forbidden. This is apartheid. There are many roads in Judea and Samaria where it is forbidden for Jews to drive. This is apartheid. Muslims can pray anywhere, but a Jew is arrested for praying on the Temple Mount. This is apartheid.
6. YNET ! THIS NEWS IS OPENING MY EYES
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (12.30.09)
how, atilla ? FIRST ! TOO MUCH ROAD NEWS WE READ TODAY. AND AND THIS ROAD SUBJECT IS CONNECTED TO THE TERROR ATTACK WHICH WAS TO AN ISRAELI MAN. he killed from palestinian / palestinians YOU WROTE THAT FATAH DID THAT. SOME OTHERS SAID : HIZBULLAH HELPED FATAH TO DO THAT. that was crime. I seen his son's screams. I HOPE ISRAEL FINDS THE KILLER AND KILLS HIM. *** BUT ISRAEL ALREADY KILLED 7 PALESTINIANS FOR THAT CRIME. HOW MANY OF THEM WERE INNOCENTS ? I DONT KNOW. WHY THEY DIDNT TAKEN TO COURT INSTEAD TO KILL THEM ??? *** now ! why my eyes started to open on this subject ? the families now asking close the roads to palestinian travellers. AT THIS POINT, I STARTED TO THINK THAT WHAT IF THE KILLING WAS SET UP BY DEEP STATE OF ISRAEL ??? I mean ! whatever we seeing is just some practices to arrenge roads better ??? *** YNET ! I AM HERE TO ADMIT THAT I SUPPORT MOST OF ISRAELI LEFTIST MENTALITY. I BELIEVE THAT THE LEFTISTS WORK FOR THE PEACE FOR BOTH PEOPLE. ynet ! you know that I dont know you that much ! its clear that WE (YOU AND ME) love each other some days. are you an okay people, ynet ? are you realy for the peace ? *** and dear ynet ? who is your boss ? I mean big boss ? DOES HE ALSO A LEFTIST AS YOU ? who finance you ynet ? and what politic party you support in israel ? and WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND HAARETZ ? see ! I have many points I need to know that just to be good people between you and palestinians and both radicals. *** ynet ! thank you for your response in advance. let that ghoust answers my questions. I love you ynet. by the way, tomorrow night I will have to go to other city to visit my parents. dont cry behind me if I dont write :)
7. What is a Jew"s life expectance
Raphael ,   Netanya   (12.30.09)
if travelling through area A? Arab segregation methods are much more radical than a road ban.
8. Wouldn't it be ironic if...
JG ,   Modiin. Israel   (12.30.09)
This author is first one injured when the 443 opens to Palestinian travel. Protecting one's citizens from terrorist attacks at the expense of the attacking people is not apartheid. If this author really wants to see apartheid in action, go to almost any one of the Muslim ruled countries and see how the rules for Jews differ from those of Muslims.
9. Really? So why are most roads...
eli ,   ashkelon   (12.30.09)
... in the Shomron forbidden for JEWS??? That's not apartheid then? Or then it's suddenly a security issue??
10. More like "Milestone in left and kill Jews direction"
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.30.09)
11. dumbest idea ever!
OZ   (12.30.09)
this has nothing to do with """aperthied" policies . it has every thing to do with israeli life being protected by barring the palis from shooting at israli vehicles. wonder if mr.okon will have an explanation bordering this garbage written above ,after the next israeli fatality, god forbid!
12. :: A glimmer of justice
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.30.09)
"Not all unjust discrimination is apartheid," Justice Beinish It can equally be said that all “unjust discrimination” is “unjust discrimination”. Israeli unjust discrimination towards the Palestinians is blatantly obvious to the entire world and they are nauseated by this discrimination just as they were with the South African Apartheid regime. An example of such discrimination is when illegal Israeli settlers/extremists are afforded more rights than the people whose land they have stolen. It should be noted that Apartheid/racial discrimination itself is a ‘crime against humanity’ when: "committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime." (2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court). Not only is Israel’s system of Apartheid/racial discrimination a crime against humanity it is also the core stumbling block any peace agreement. Or as Carter put it: "Israel's continued control and colonization of Palestinian land have been the primary obstacles to a comprehensive peace agreement in the Middle East". If Israel was ever to be a ‘light unto all nations’ it must first stop the colonization of Palestinian land, tear down the system of Apartheid/racial discrimination and accept the establishment of the state of Palestine. As Boaz Okon (who is a retired Israeli judge) rightly states: “Apartheid states form slowly and tend to crash in one fell swoop”. Hopefully this will be true of Israel and the system of occupation and Apartheid/racial discrimination which has been built up over the decades will come crashing down. Be it a one/two state solution this current system of unjust discrimination and occupation cannot continue forever.
13. Ban leftist anti-Semites and racists!
susan ,   haifa   (12.30.09)
Jail them Keep them off our roads.
14. Is keeping criminals in jail apartheid?
(12.30.09)
First, I say it loud & clear that my case is 'not' against the many Arabs who desire genuine peace. It's just a fact based on tragic events that 'all' of the terrorists that commited acts of murder on those roads, happen to be Arab. Hence, removing the opportunity for slaughter is surely a step in teh right direction.
15. what about banning Jews from roads in Juea?
Avi Steinson ,   Tel Aviv   (12.30.09)
hypocrite
16. to #12 yawn
ghostq   (12.30.09)
I see you copy past alot mmm try to think for yourself and review evidenses and not stuff you over heard people who retire, it will do you only good. all your theory go down the drain cause arabs also serve the IDF and from what I heard they even harsher their Israeli comrades.
17. Ludacris ! ! !
Akiva ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.30.09)
Is it apartheid to keep thieves out of my house? How about keeping Arabs out of Israel, the border certainly acts on the basis of nationality. Just FYI - the Shomron and Judea is a military governance, and is NOT subject to Israeli state laws. It's actually governed under JORDANIAN laws. If the Pali's would stop trying to kill Jews on a daily basis, such restrictions wouldn't be necessary. Getting such a decision after a Jew was murdered on such a road less than a week ago is a travesty! http://mpaths.com
18. The pollitically correct Israeli "supreme" court loves dead
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.30.09)
Jews. They would rather have dead Jews than have the world think they were not the prim and proper UN delegate type.
19. apartheid, what about...
eliezer ,   jerusalem   (12.30.09)
the ban on Israeli entering Ramallah, Jenin, etc is definitely apartheid, why doesn't the author complain about this? Perhaps the Arabs can discriminate and that is OK, but if we protect ourselves then we are racists! Hogwash!!
20. Jews can't drive in Pal cities: that is apartheid, no?
JPS ,   Efrat   (12.30.09)
If I drove into Jericho to buy a jar of tahina, the Palestinian police would arrest me immediately because I am a Jew. I am not allowed to drive in Jericho, or Ramallah, or many other Palestinian towns and cities. Why do the Palestinians get to practice apartheid and nobody cares?
21. Israeli Apartheid?
Yoel kosberg ,   New York city, USA   (12.30.09)
The State of Israel has been under seige since it's Arab neighbors attacked it In 1948, shortly after it's creation by the United Nations, and up to and including the almost daily rocket attacks from their neighbors proxys, Hamas and Hezbollah, in Siuth Lebanon and Gaza. Any claim of apartheid under circumstances during warfare are spurious and hold no substantial moral highground. Nation security trumps inconvenience, even certain civil rights, every time.
22. Boaz Okon
marvls   (12.30.09)
is a moron! Banning Arabs from the road is not related to terrorism? which planet are you on? Retrictions were applied only after the "intifada". Bypass roads were built to protect Jews from being shot at. Palestinians can't have it both ways. Jews separate themselves from Arabs to portect themselves & their families. It's utterly despicalbe and morally repugnant to call that apartheid.. You're like a little kid who uses a big word to show without even knowing what it really means.
23. Bring on Apartheid
RightJew ,   NY,NY   (12.30.09)
Lets bring on the apartheid in every manner possible. Muslim Jihadists have declared all out war on the "infidels", now the "infidels" must abandon utterly insane suicidal liberal policies which enable the genocidal Islamists. Ban all Muslims from airlines, buses, roads, public places, etc. Separating Jews and decent non-Jews from murderous, genocidal Arab/Islamic jihadists is right, just, and moral by the eternal standards of Torah morality. Boaz Okon's support for policies enabling Jihadists to slaughter innocent non-Muslims demonstrates the utter moral bankruptcy of the Jewish left.
24. "Almost apartheid" but not exactly Boaz.
m   (12.30.09)
Do you drive on this 443 route? Everyday? Will you send your children to drive on this route now? At night? Can your vision be so blurred that you can't see reality? This "apartheid" probably saved the lives of countless Jews... until now, from now on, lets Beinish and you and the other judge whom I don't remember drive for us every day on route 443. Then we'll talk.
25. Hypocritical left winger
Yoni ,   Tel Aviv   (12.30.09)
What about the rules against jews only? How about coming out against the racist building freeze against Jews only? How about the signs that Jews face disallowing them from entrance into various arab only cities? How about the entire Gaza strip where once thrived many Jewish communities until the laws against Jews residing there were passed? Need I go on? Those dont concern you since the only thing you really care about is promoting Arabs and watching the downfall of the Jewish state.
26. route 443/apartheid
Shulamith ,   Beer Sheva   (12.30.09)
The reporters who compare Israel to Apartheid South Africa have no idea what they are talking about. Ask anyone who lived in Apartheid era SA. The majority in SA, due to the colour of their skin, and no other reason, were removed from their homes, and placed into townships and areas far removed from the "white" areas, where they worked and shopped, and were not allowed to move freely from one area to another without passes to control their movement, and could not marry someone from another colour - ie whites had to marry whites etc. This had nothing to do with one group of people eg Xhosas wanting to wipe out the Swanas, or White Afrikaners etc. This was simply based on racist prejudice. This is simply not the case in Israel. Should Arabs wish to live in harmony with their Jewish and other fellow citizens they have the same rights and privileges, except in situations where it is known that allowing possible terrorists into a Jewish area could lead to murder of innocent civilians going about their business, remember Rabbi Chai, and many others who were brutally murdered on the roads - I recall a pregnant woman and a number of her children murdered - because there was not protection on the roads!
27. Settelments for Jews only, Aparthide in its best
Yossi ,   Israel   (12.30.09)
The settlments were created and build for Jews only. Most of them were build on privete land that was Taken from stolen... What can call this system in Hebrew or English.. I know how, if the victims are Jews
28. # 12
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.30.09)
"Apartheid states form slowly & tend to crash in one fell swoop" Hopefully this will be true of Israel....." Thanks Matty,this proves that you are an anti-semite & hate Israel & wish for our demise. Exactly like I have said all along.
29. Matty Groves (# 12). At least you're an 'amusing' antisemite
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (12.31.09)
You title your post "A glimmer of justice", leading the reader to anticipate some form of praise for what is clearly an absurdly careless pro-palestinian ruling by an Israeli court. Instead, and in keeping with your usual style, you compose a ~300 word rant that is nothing but more criticism, condemnation and hate. Not a single, solitary word of praise, satisfaction or appreciation. You're a fraud, through and through. But, at least, unlike your partner-in-crime B.S.News, you are amusing in your own pathetic way. The irony of it all is that your attitude is precisely the reason why there has never been, and likely never will be, peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. Like you, Arabs simply do not possess those human characteristics which allow for praise, satisfaction or appreciation. That's why folks like Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO, Fatah, PFLP, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Al-Qaeda and the 300 other known Islamic groups you call "freedom fighters" can NEVER be appeased. The motto of the Arab/Muslim world is "We love death more than you love life". There is only one way to 'appease' people like that...they must be granted their wish of death. And, if/when responding to this comment, particularly the previous sentence, please keep in mind that Muslims the world over are killing other Muslims by the thousands per day. They love that sh_t. Death is the only thing that really satisfies them.
30. Since the roads were closed to non-Israelis
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.31.09)
How in the hell can this be apartheid? It isn't we paid for these roads and the Arabs have murdered dozens of people for the crime of being Jewish. Now that is worse than any apartheid. Death penalty for selling land to Jews - now that is real apartheid. The author is a total leftist moron - must live in Tel Aviv
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