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Rabbi Yosef: Shabbat desecrators worse than beasts
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 10.01.10, 14:10
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1. Change your pills Grandad
Avi ,   Israel   (01.10.10)
Thank God that you are a beast and not a Sh-ass supporter. Well at least us beasts are free to roam and eat the grass unlike your 7Shas MKs who have served jail time.
2. so the ox refused out of religious conviction?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (01.10.10)
or maybe the lesson is that you can change your long-held convictions merely when someone says you can. silly story.
3. lol what about chritians who observe
ghostq   (01.10.10)
jewish laws? is that going to make them less jews, sorry but can't stop lauphing he is funny.
4. nearly forgot to ask when was the last time
ghostq   (01.10.10)
this rabbi baught an ox, cause oxes r expensive dumb creaturs.
5. Steinitz and Ovadia in the same room and throw away the key
Bruno ,   Haifa   (01.10.10)
... suitable punishment for each of them
6. The Rabbi
Brod ,   USA   (01.10.10)
The Rabbi is right about the Shabbat. But before it can sink into the heart, mind and soul of the people, the people need to know the GOD of Israel-the Creator of the Heavens and Universe who gave the Ten Commandments to the world.
7. #1 i wondered how long it would take
gal1 ,   israel   (01.10.10)
for you to show up. oh avi you poor man, you poor man without a clue who your maker is. if only you knew , then the quality of your life would change and you would stop complaining. i pray for you , honestly. ;)
8. working on shabat is a desecration , i
gal1 ,   israel   (01.10.10)
know this and have changed my ways. the money you earn on shabat goes no where. it is eventually spent unwisely and your luck changes for the worse. why work when you can rest , it's a great law that we should take advantage off.
9. And we stupid oxen pay for and defend
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.10.10)
these hara-dim anti semites. Time for us to rid our Jewish country of these enemies within. ayatollah yusuf should have be institutionalized years ago. Any other person talking like that would be put in a room with rubber walls. Every place of the hara-dim should be closed and they should be sent over the border to gaza.Let them live with their brothers and sisters there.
10. secular ppl are not given a chance
yoni ,   tel aviv   (01.10.10)
the secular people are brainwashed and not given an education about shabbat. to make any decision you need to have two options to choose between. In Israel today there is only one side being fed to the poor Jewish souls being raised with little or no Jewish education. Shame on Israel
11. Shabbat
Birdi ,   Israel   (01.10.10)
What about the Haredim protesting & rioting at Intel on shabbat? Are they not desecrating shabbat?
12. Re: Ovadia Yoser
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.10.10)
Send him to Iran.
13. Another fanatic
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (01.10.10)
I suppose it's tantamount to a Priest giving a sermon claiming that everyone who did not go to Confession were worst than beasts. And what exactly is wrong with "beasts." Man has proven himself to be far worse than beasts including those who claim to be good religous people, observe the Sabbath, do go to Confession, etc., yet have no problem in carrying out crimes against humanity or supporting them. That would include the "good" Rabbi in this particular case who thinks he has the right to sit in judgment of others.
14. The Rabbi enjoys insulting seculars,Ashkenazis+Arabs
Sam ,   Canada   (01.10.10)
The Rabbi appears to enjoy insulting people who are not copies of himself. That includes seculars, Ashkenazis and Arabs.
15. Reminds me of Iranian clerics
Yonatan ,   Israel   (01.10.10)
This hateful rhetoric from the rabbi is unecessary. Go away, if i dont want to celebrate shabbat-- i wont.
16. Like It Or Not, This IS The Truth. Print It! Why Be Afraid?
Robert Blum ,   New Albany, USA   (01.10.10)
Thank you, Rabbi for being staunch and outspoken about what is correct = orthodox! We were slaves in Egypt and worked everyday. Ha'Shem gave His eternal people the gift of Shabbat, so that we may rest. Today's secular Jews have no connection to our immutible Torah. They seem to care for the convenience of a Goy's "free" life style, where substance is less important than than comfort. After all, the goyim (nations), who created an addition to the Torah, which means not a part of the Testament, since nothing may be added to or subtracted from the immutible Torah, is a testament to nothing. In it, what they refer to as a "New" testament, they conveniently allow for desecration of Shabbat and abandonment of laws of Kashrut, for the sake of convenience and taste, so as to have been able to attract pagans to their newly formed Christianity, in which Jesus was elected as G-d. For Jews so attracted to remaining on the periphery of Judaism or attracted to the laxness and convenience of Reformed Judaism, which has no substance in its abandonment of torah and of correct practice of Judaism, there is a book entitled '26 Reasons why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus'...This book will enlighten you hopefully, so that you do not abandon true Jewish practice in your disillusionment and lack of understanding of what is right and wrong, and to hopefully prevent you from clinging to other incorrect faiths which brush off true Judaism, as do self-righteous, self-serving Reformed, watered-down Jews, as archaic and cult like.
17. Obadia Yuseless
Angus MacMeldrew ,   Israel   (01.10.10)
Am I this idiots brother?
18. yosef and yishai
alexi   (01.10.10)
Shas along with these haredi seeks money on the pretext of torah and being closer to hashem.What you really have are self styled christ figures who are not closer to hashem at all. The haredi shouldall be doing idf duty. Furthur, shas maintained israel's worst PM olmert in power when winograd said to get him the hell out of office, that he was incompetent, a fish out of water and the police alleged a crook currently out of jail. For that, These figures should go straight to hell. Finally, Joseph gave olmert a blessing fo rhis recent prostate operation. No problem there, except that olmert caused the needless death of 150 israelis during the hezbollah war because of his cowardice. Yoseph should have stayed away from dankner and beilin's buddy olmert, who margalin wisely said, olmert's resignations is a sad ending to a miserable career, who congenitally was a failed leader in any kind of security or war.
19. Unadulterated horsepoop
StevieT ,   USA   (01.10.10)
20. ..a combat soldier
carlosfuentes   (01.10.10)
What do the haredim know about combat soldiers? He should have discussed a person who doesn't work. lives off other people and has other people defend him while he spits on those other people. The haredim could identify with that.
21. idiot!
Michael ,   Petach Tikva/Toronto   (01.10.10)
22. to #14 no just everyone inteligence
ghostq   (01.10.10)
cause many religious chritians also observe Shabat.
23. Great Rabbi' expresions
Dotan ,   Montreal Canada   (01.10.10)
what is the difference between him and any muslim imam or neturei karta that still do not recognize the State of Israel. Shame on you. God will not sanction this type of insults. People have the right to conduct their lifes without advise from this old Rabbi. Wake up ya Ovadia.
24. 18 Alexi: Those who obey the Commandment to remember the
Rivkah   (01.10.10)
Shabbat have more favor from Y'hovah even if only in peace of mind than those who don't obey the Shabbat.. The Torah says a sign of a follower of Y'hovah is remembering to obey the Shabbat. Rabbi Yeshua said it is lawful on the Shabbat to do good. But those who can rest from their labors on the Shabbat should do so as a blessing for those who have to work in hospitals or the military, etc. It is good for the Chief Rabbis to encourage remembering the Shabbat to keep it holy. For you to say it is not, is foolish. The things of Y'hovah are foolishness to fools who say in their hearts there is no God.
25. He jokes around. seculars need to relax.
Besalel ,   Great Neck, NY   (01.10.10)
Rav Ovadia likes to spice up his sermons with his brand of humor, which is kind of shock-jock style. He jokes around and him calling someone a name is no different than Larry David or Don Imus doing so. They do it for laughs, not to be taken literally. Those seculars that have a stick up their rear need to just relax a little. Listen to his sermons from beginning to end (they are on the net) and youll see the context these things are spoken in. Its not vindictive or harsh.
26. Rabbi , gal1 , yoni and alikes
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.10.10)
I hope that you never will need a doctor , fireman or police officer a Shabbat . And don't come with "pikuach Nefesh" , they are WORKING for you . The same with those police officers and border guards who protect SANE Israelis from those violent charidim on Shabbat .
27. Now who is being over sensitive?
Ilan ,   Ariel   (01.10.10)
Commentary on satirists is not acceptable is it now?
28. about the story of the ox
the queen ,   ....   (01.10.10)
it is not about the buyer or the seller ..it is about the ox .. the seller knows what he sell but the buyer do not know what he buy // i do not like to buy anything from rabi
29. "He went and converted because of the ox"
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (01.10.10)
I came across this bit of apocrypha in a better rendition in "Azure" magazine, and actually used it in a lecture I gave years ago. But there's a lot that Yosef obviously misses in this story. For one thing, this Jew - the former owner of the ox - practiced his faith, worked, and interacted with non-Jews. This was the norm, even among the Torah greats. No one assumed his life's work was to "study torah". Many of the rabbis of the Mishnaic period were also friends with Roman notables, and it was that interaction that led many non-Jews to adopt the Jewish way. Which brings me to point two: Did that gentile's conversion involve a tribunal of haredim who insisted on years of study and proof that he would observe ALL the laws before he was accepted on penalty of a future reversal of conversion? No. That greater acceptance of converts is a reason some 5-10% of the Roman Empire were, by many estimates, either Jews of "God fearers" who adopted many Jewish customs and practices. In contrast, Jews today are only some 0.2% of the world's population.
30. rabbi yosef comments.
gadot ,   herzlia   (01.10.10)
we the secular beast have to work all the time,including the day of rest,so that your follows(shas) and the other religious,can sit on their backside.
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