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Oliver Stone says Hitler an 'easy scapegoat'
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Published: 11.01.10, 14:47
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1. Who, but a self hating Jew??
m   (01.11.10)
2. What a screwball! Unfortunately...
Robert ,   USA   (01.11.10)
there are a lot more like him in the US of A. Ridiculous.
3. stone is completely stoned
ghostq   (01.11.10)
looking for media attention, oh this is the easies way to kill your career, as well, oh he should have learn the history stalin in the end of his days had so much paranoya attacks even on his dying bed he pointed finger for so call someone imaginary who poisened him. he had clasic king herolds syndrom, short men(realy they were short and had so call military boots to cover it up) with huge inferiority complex.
4. Is stone his last name or what is in his
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.11.10)
head and heart. Who did Joe McCarthy mass murder. Too bad we did not listen to him and remove all leftists from the media and films. hitler would not have had any weapons to use if not for stalin. stalin built the airplanes, artillery and tanks for the nazi army. he even let them hold exercises in the ukraine. All the weapons that stalin built for hitler were banned under the treaty ending WWI. stone is a sick man with a hate of the U.S. and Judaism. Now he wants to provide more proparganda to the next generation.
5. I wonder if it'll be as bigger flop as his last attempt at a
Talula ,   Israel   (01.11.10)
movie. Olly should do us all a favour, leave the history to the historians and Holocaust survivors and try and make a decent movie. The man has had more flops than an erectile dysfunctional man.
6. shame on you oliver , you who fought
gal1 ,   israel   (01.11.10)
in the vietnam war. talk about mass murderers like hitler who created genocide with his hate for the jews, gays, and the list goes on and on for anyone who didn't fit the criteria of a "pure arian race". by the way i'm not a conservative pundit, i'm an outraged jew. i think you should stick to films like platoon and so on.
7. to #6 for rating people do the craziest things.
ghostq   (01.11.10)
it's not a matter of right or wrong it's more a matter of someone who needs viewers badly, so don't be so annoyed with him. just feel sorry for him cause fame and fortun comes and goes but his name is something else.
8. Oliver had always had a soft heart for dictators
steve from raleigh   (01.11.10)
Oliver is secretly in love or not so secretly, as in the case of Cuba and Venezuela, with totalitarian dictators. It matters notning to him whether they are big C Communists or Fascists or anything else, as long as they are tyrants.
9. Stalin fought Hitler? Stalin was an ally of Hitler!
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.11.10)
In 1939 they made a pact of cooperation to divide Eastern Europe between the Nazi Germany and Soviet Union so that the Soviet Union would regain all the independent territories the Russian Empire lost and much more. This is how Stalin enabled Hitler to start WW2 and both invaded Poland in September 1939 and ruled it. After that for almost 2 years Stalin was friendly with Hitler while the latter raped the rest of of Europe and Stalin even ordered communist parties in the West to support Nazi Germany propaganda, which they all gladly did. While extremely suspicious of Western leaders, because of the pact they made Stalin believed the Nazi dictator and did not prepare the Red Army to defend itself against the Wehrmacht. Unfortunately for Stalin, Hitler was more cunning than him and decided to invade the Soviet Union too in June of 1942. Stalin never wanted to fight Hitler but was forced into doing so by Hitler.
10. Maybe Stone will start praising KKK too
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.11.10)
they were not all bad either My bet is that he does all this as a publicity stunt for his falling stardom
11. DEAR MR. STONE
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (01.11.10)
Sir ,unfortunately ,and sadly ,there are or were people in the world who are totally and completely evil.Please do not be naive and do not make yourself appear foolish.
12. OLIVER STONE WALKING IN HITLER'S SHOES
david ,   new york   (01.11.10)
and wearing his moustache - it becomes him. these liberals are so predictable: of course, hitler can't be evil because its america that's evil. what, america actually fought evil and won? - impossible. GM and general electric are satanic. hitler, well he was just america's lackey.
13. History
Kurt ,   USA   (01.11.10)
Will Stone show the Bush family, Rockefller continued selling oil to German in WW II and other US firms did business as well. It is true USSR was forced into the war by Germany and was already defeating Germany aND MOVING CLOSE TOWARD it in eastern Europe before D-Day
14. Hitle - Stalin and other evil doers
Kurt ,   USA   (01.11.10)
I am guessing Stone is trying to give some perspective about some US groups that were not so patriotic at the time. Remember also the US only declared war on Japan AFTER it was bombed at pearl Harbor; a few days later Germany declared war on US which was then dragged into European war theatre. Hitler & Stalin were evil as was Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
15. Conservative pundits? Try anyone who is not dysfunctional!
Etoile ,   Montreal, Canada   (01.11.10)
16. WTF?????
Simcha ,   NYC USA   (01.11.10)
Maybe he can cast Mel Gibson in his next movie...another idiot director whose films I will boycott and so should everyone else
17. Easy to say now
Raphael ,   Netanya   (01.11.10)
"Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated.". Until he seized power, nobody gave a nickel on his chance. Even his former jewish neighbors in Vienna could not believe he was an antisemite. Our present problem is to single out the potential future Hitler: any small sect or hate group leader. A pity there are so many, that a full brigade of Mossad agents would be needed.
18. Oliver Stone
Proud Jew   (01.12.10)
Stone's father, paternal grandparents, aunt, uncles, cousins on the paternal side of his family are all Jews. Hitler would have murdered all of them, and he's making excuses for him?
19. What an idiot!
vered ,   israel   (01.12.10)
Of course American children learn about the causes leading up to WWII, the treaty that stripped Germany, etc. Who the hell does he think he is thinking only he is capable of educating the public? Boo hooo hoo. Imagine that, vilifying Hitler and Stalin.
20. to #18 it got nothing to do with religion
ghostq   (01.12.10)
he needs attention badly.
21. Oliver Stone gets his history from Hugo Chavez, his friend
Mea   (01.12.10)
Stone and his Hollywood buddies are spending lots of time in Venuzuela being wined and dined by Chavez, who loves his new found celebrity. Stone should take his viewpoints on Stalin and Hitler and shove them so far up his ass hiw throat clogs. Bastard.
22. Maybe Oliver Stone is not making excuses for Hitler,
noa ,   israel   (01.12.10)
but waving fingers at world governments who created the situation that made it ripe for these dictators to gain power and the people who allowed them to. Maybe he is saying what all of us have been saying all along, that "Evil can only function when Good people don't react:. In a way it is comforting to think that one man could have been stopped. It is horrifying to think that one individual has more power than whole populations.
23. After rewriting history on so many occasions (JFK, W, etc.)
Jake   (01.12.10)
this statement by Oliver Stone is right up his ally, and therefore hardly surprising.
24. #1
Minnie ,   USA   (01.12.10)
Well according to your "religion law" Stone is really a Christian NOT a jew because his Mother was a Christian.
25. #22, I doubt Stone is suggesting anything that complex
Jake   (01.12.10)
Given his rewriting of history from beginning to end. Oliver Stone knows better than anyone that raising a big stink and creating a huge controversy by turning everything upside is the quickest route to the big $$$$. Saying that Hitler is just a convenient scapegoat is muddying the waters of history and changing the facts from their proper places. Mankind has always had leaders, and strong leaders have always held sway of the masses. Why blame world governments for the choice of the German people? They knew what they were getting themselves into when they read Mein Kampf, which is nothing if not brutally honest. Not like Stalin, who imposed himself on the Russians.
26. Who did McCarthy murder? What an idiot!
Scott ,   USA   (01.12.10)
27. We've all hear of a potz a yid from Port Said
Al   (01.12.10)
in Stones case its 'a potz a half yid' from putzville NYC.... What do you expect from a son of a meshumid?
28. Stone tries history again, result:
april.shower ,   germany   (01.12.10)
Hitler as a scapegoat and a cheaply used figure? How innovative and brillant! If this amateurish cheek should be a marketing gag then it has to be noticed that such a turn is old hat: empirically everything lets compare with everything, i.e. becoming relative (and so Hitlers and the germans acts too) but one-dimensional purely descriptive approach to history is for well-educated individuals only. Without any selfdescribing marker such an approach undermines the evolution of being able to make a moral decision (to feel guilty par example). It withholds the fundamental differences between understanding (i.e. decribing) and accepting (i.e. judging). German history as victim of stones trying to grumble that leads to somewhat like an american-built charts of the greatest assholes Hitler has been vilified? in how far? At last one's patience is wearing thing with half-educated american dilettantes, there are better americans (i still believe) Hitler and so on "in context"?, i can not say that america is distinguishing oneself with knowing how to handle contexts (supporting taliban, fighting taliban par example) america itself seems to be lost in contexts, without orientation But about hitler and his german system is essentially really all said and decided (but not all done), Stones sorry effort along with his own accompanying statements is well placed in a gallery for below average art but not in school.
29. No surprise here
Ernst ,   uSA   (01.12.10)
So what else is new? The Left has always admired and even supported dictators, tyrants, fascists, simply because they believe in total or near=-total state power over the individual. Let us recall the American Left's admiration and support for Mussolini in the 1930's, and it's present-day support of the total-power/madman tyrant Chavez of Venezuela,to cite just two examples. There are many more.
30. Revisiting Shoah
P ,   Philadelphia   (01.13.10)
This could in theory be done well, in a way that doesn't try to whitewash Shoah. I'm not very optimistic though - 95 times out of 100 when things like this come out it's an attempt to excuse bigotry of the worst order. One of the few times I've seen this kind of thing done well was Henry Bean's "The Believer"
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