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Jordan wants Dead Sea Scrolls back from Israel
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Published: 13.01.10, 11:57
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1. Too funny!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.13.10)
Nomadic Bedouin boys found the scrolls hidden away in caves while chasing a goat that had escaped the flock they were tending. These same Bedouins sold the scrolls to Jews, in deals largely brokered by Eliezer Sukenik. The purchases were funded by Jews in the United States and other countries. It subsequently came to light that, in order to get more money for the scrolls, their Bedouin sellers actually tore up some scrolls that were largely intact into small pieces. Rather despicable, but not so much born out of a lack of respect for history as born out of a profit motive. I wonder which foreign entity is pressuring Jordan to make this spurious claim. If the intent is to deflect Israel's attention from other matters -- well, it won't work.
2. why would Jordan want Jewish ..
Jacob ,   Munich   (01.13.10)
antiquities ? They do prove the continuous presence of Jews in the Holy Land. There is nothing comparable from Arabs and/or Muslims. So these finds do prove some kind of ownership of the land. That´s contrary to the actual Muslim claim that Jews don´t belong here
3. They Belong to the Jews
Dan ,   Titusville, FL   (01.13.10)
The Heshemite Kingdom is the rightful owner of Mecca but the Jordanians are too timid to protest against Muslims whose only response to anything is to blow up buildings, Mosques and people. So now absent any semblance of legitimacy they claim the Dead Sea Scrolls which is just another front in the Muslims war on Israel. It is time to take sovereignty over the West Bank and declare such to the world. Let Jordan have their Palestinians back, not OUR Dead Sea Scrolls.
4. israel stole it's own property??? illogical claim.
ygalg ,   israel   (01.13.10)
the Jordanians need to be note that dead sea scrolls are not 'Koran' but 'Jewish bible'. and what is Jewish belongs to Jewish people! Jordanians are not the Jewish people. they are Muslims. maybe if Jordanians become a Jewish state then they may have the right for the claim.
5. Sarah, Jews keep digging for any kind of architectural..
Yet they keep diggin   (01.13.10)
sites or dummies. Israelis claim everything in sight as their own and insist on recognition (fanatical propaganda) what they find Christian, Abassids, Fatimids, Ayauid, Mamluks Ottomans
6. Architectural / Archaeological
Amir ,   yafa   (01.13.10)
keep digging for any kind of architectural /archaeological sites. everything in sight as their own and insist on recognition, what they find Christian, Abassids, Fatimids, Ayyaubid, Mamluks Ottomans
7. but the document is written in Hebrew
ghostq   (01.13.10)
ancient hebrew, I saw a small glimps of it and it was amazing, what would they do with scroll in hebrew? oh obvious they will destroy it and rewrite the history to justify non existing history cause when they don't like the truth they change it.
8. The Essenes were Jordanians?
Admur MiBno Bchoro ,   Jerusalem   (01.13.10)
Abdullah, an Arab from the Hejaz (now Saudi Arabia), was abruptly installed as the Emir of Transjordan by the British. In a British memorandum presented to the League of Nations on 16 September 1922, When were the Dead Sea Scrolls written? The Dead Sea Scrolls were most likely written by the Essenes during the period from about 200 B.C. to 68 C.E./A.D. The Scrolls appear to be the library of a Jewish sect. The library was hidden away in caves around the outbreak of the First Jewish Revolt (A.D. 66-70) as the Roman army advanced against the rebel Jews. The Scrolls are for the most part, written in Hebrew, but there are many written in Aramaic. Aramaic was the common language of the Jews of Palestine for the last two centuries B.C. and of the first two centuries A.D.re a few texts written in Greek.
9. ok, if muslims give back temple mount
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (01.13.10)
after all, it's only fair to return what's rightfully the jews property.
10. Ynet! please complete the purchasing trail...
(01.13.10)
and in the United States in 1948 the scrolls were purchased by an American Jew who then donated them to the State of Israel and thus the Israel's antiquities authority became the custodian of the perfectly legal sale transaction items. That is the State of Israel is the legal owner of the scrolls!
11. to #1 thank you oh wise one.
ghostq   (01.13.10)
12. The scrolls are like the land - They Belong to Israel
Andrew ,   Miami,FL   (01.13.10)
13. I just realized that now they r going
ghostq   (01.13.10)
to make all the chritians around the world angry. cause Joshua nerative is in there. mmm I don't think it is wise choise but than again when arab ego blind their judgment they basicaly asking for troubles. and troubles is what they r going to get.
14. #2: Because It Is Now Valuable
emanon ,   USA   (01.13.10)
Same story with the actual land in Israel. The Arabs sold it to the Jews because originally the land was worthless. Then the Jews did something radical, at least radical to the arab mind, they improved the land. So now that it worth a lot more, they want it back. Jordan does not really want the Scrolls. They simply want it because the Jews want it. They either want to extort money outright as a settlement or they will offer to sell it back at a highly inflated price.
15. Why do they want them?
Jackie ,   Florida   (01.13.10)
Simple answer. To destroy them, just as the Arabs have been destroying artifacts on the Temple Mount and just as Jordan destroyed yeshivas, syngogues and other Jewish artifacts when it controlled parts of Jerusalem (from 1948 to 67)
16. O Allah, are these your sons ?
Jojo ,   PRT WASH NY   (01.13.10)
They are at it again. Pretty soon, they will claim that the Mona Lisa was painted by Mahmoud Falafel, a gifted bedouin, while watching over the herd. Too lazy to work, too involved with their koran, too many wives to handle, among other things. Ah ! but wanting something that not only doesn't belong to them, no sweat, no effort, can be cash convertible,i.e.: Saddam had to have his neighbor's oil, Iran must have Iraq's oil, Lebanon is making claims on Israel's finds (gas / oil ?), The whole of islam making claims on Europe ( killroy was there - once), and now Jordan who did not exist a mere 60/70 years ago is making his claim on Jewish manuscripts. They got their priorities all mixed-up. Too busy killing infidels, Jews, and sacrifice their children. Muhammad is doing a lousy job, as usual.
17. those scrolls were all about Jordanians
zionist forever   (01.13.10)
Oh yeh I forgot that Jordan only came into existence in the 1920s didn't it when the British cut up 80% of the former kingdom of Judea and then imported a Heshimite prince from Arabia and made him first king of Jordan and the scrolls. This is the arab state we were supposed to have the best relations with. Now just like Obama they are picking fights with Israel. Jordan already still has some of the scrolls so why do they need the ones in Israeli control? Israel must now keep the scrolls and say they are ours even if the UN or Obama demand we give them to Jordan and sadly we cannot lend them to foreign museums anymore.
18. this is too funny for words
rashid ,   palistinian   (01.13.10)
jordan which is an artificial country created artificially by the brits in 47 want the scrolls that was written few thousands of years ago by the jews why yaanee lesh i thought i was daft believe me but the jordanians just take the biscuit
19. to #5 wrong, it's scientific research
ghostq   (01.13.10)
that was also conducted by forign archiologists. not making this up this is true.
20. ISRAEL WANTS JORDAN BACK !!!
.....DACON9   (01.13.10)
21. Israel will have to bow to International Law
Nour ,   Palestine   (01.13.10)
The scrolls were stolen in an act of piracy - as simple as that. No country in the world recognizes Israeli archeological diggings in the West Bank, let alone sovereignty. Therefore it makes perfect legal sense for Jordan to intervene and demand the scrolls be kept in custodianship until the legal status of the unified State of Palestine is proclaimed and recognized globally.
22. 2
zionist forever   (01.13.10)
WHY WOULD JORDAN WANT JEWISH ANTIQUITIES? Why would Jordan want jewish land? Jordan is an artificial entity created by the British in 1925 when the brought over a Heshimite prince and made him first king of Transjordan.
23. Scrolls
Jew ,   Israel   (01.13.10)
The scrolls are written in Hebrew and so belong to the Jewish People. How many Jews live in Jordan?
24. Now they want them?
JK ,   Rova, Jerusalem   (01.13.10)
It has been almost 43 years since the 6 day war, and now they are claiming for the scrolls??? What importance does it have to them?- clearly not so much if they waited till now.
25. Crack Pot Nations
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.13.10)
What nerve ,what gall. This is the piece process. The beggarly approach of appeasement and capitulation for peace has failed miserably. Israel it's time to get off your back and stand up and set things straight don't you think ?
26. Jordan also wanted/wants to own the W. Wall. Such clowns. :)
Yaniv ,   Israel   (01.13.10)
27. In What World?
Shimon ,   Loveland, USA   (01.13.10)
Could they belong to Jordan. Oh yes, in the world that hates Jews, Israel and considers both the stuff of kindling. In the workd of an Assad, Humeini, Ahmadin-a-jihad and Hisbulla/Fallahin. Oh yes...and the looted Temple Mount...and it's looted artifacts...undoubtedly Jordan has plans for The Torah. Ubdoubtedly a public display of it's ashes is planned by the same people who allied themselves with another book burner and Anti-Semite whose name will not not remembered out loud. I have to believe that there will never be peace with these "people". Nor should there be. I have to believe that were the entire world say, "We have decided that Israel must return it." Israel would refuse.
28. Scrolls
David ,   USA   (01.13.10)
Well we know one thing for certain, The palistinians can't claim any connection to them!
29. To: Rashid at No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.13.10)
Ya habibi, Jordan was actually artificially created in 1921, and achieved independence in 1928. Other than that, no problem with your post.
30. Jordan is only 60 years old booby prize from Saudi Arabia.
Robert Blum ,   New Albany, USA   (01.13.10)
The so called king of the Sauds became a king because of his bellicose assistance and tenacity, but there is NOTHING royal about them or about the Hasemite 'kingdom', except that they have always been a royal pain in the ass, an impediment toward peace! The Saudis promulgate their anti-Jewish, anti-zionist and anti-democracy (anti-USA), policies in their promotion of Wahabi extremism in the many mosques they have built throughout the world, including in the USA! Jordan is a nation of so called 'Palestinians' the REAL home of those in Gaza and those trying tto eliminate Israel and the Bethlehem Christians through constant violence and dissemination of their revisionist history. The religious dogma of Jordan is Islamic, not Jewish! The Dead Sea scrolls are written in HEBREW and are JEWISH, religious text, not Islamic. Does the world, and UNESCO think of returning the ancient stone tablets from Turkey Which the Muslim Turks stole from The Temple Mount, which read in paraphrase, here is the Temple Mount? Remember, only after around the time of the 'Grand Mufti' who was a murderer and friend of Hitler, did Islam acknowledge that The Temple Mount belonged to the Jews and was built by the ancient Jews. Since then, the revisionist Muslims have tried to eliminate any and all evidence of Jewish artifacts and Jewish precence in Jerusalem.
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