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Lieberman: Humiliation of Turkish envoy a mistake
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 17.01.10, 16:57
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1. Dumb and Dumber
indigenous ,   Nablus, Palestine   (01.17.10)
2. Wakey Wakey Avigdor must been late in the club
Avi   (01.17.10)
3. FM Lieberman doesn't get it....
marlene ,   Philadelphia, USA   (01.17.10)
With all due respect, Mr. Lieberman as you have said many intelligent things in the past), YOU made the mistake: in either support Mr. Ayalon or saying nothing. It was turkey who insulted Peres far worse than any Israeli ever did. Kudos for Mr. Ayalon who said what had to be said and had the guts to say it. Turkey is NOT Israel's friend and would have objected to anything WITHOUT REASON and used ANYTHING for an excuse. At least they were told.
4. nooooooooo!!!!!
Salma ,   Palestine   (01.17.10)
Long live smart!!! Mr. Lieberman
5. Did Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon make a mistake?
Ron B. ,   Lod   (01.17.10)
The Jewish people's state, Israel, cannot tolerate and ignore expressions of anti-Semitism. In 2005, Israel removed every settler and soldier from Gaza, and it received 8,000 rocket attacks and a Hamas-led coup in response. Every attack was a war crime, but where were the self-appointed human rights guardians? And in the more than three years of Gilad Shalit’s captivity by Hamas in Gaza, the international human rights community has barely given any attention to his plight. Besides, by condemning self-defense and confusing self-defense and terrorism, NGOs’ abuse human rights principles. More about double standard and fairness at : http://xrl.us/bgrqhy
6. If NATO and WEST support the racist state of Turkey
Narina ,   Ocuupied Kurdistan   (01.17.10)
Today the ultra-nationalists are strong in Turkey(regardless Islamic goverment) with powerful representation in the government. In spite of the ongoing brutality, the Kurdish people are resisting, demonstrating, organizing, and eventually being imprisoned. about 700 Kurds captured in the last 3 weeks , about 11 people been killed , while Obama condemed Iran , simply because Iran imprisoned a few Iranian, If the NATO, America ,and EU just reduce their support to the brutal Turkish state , Turkish generlas will run away with white under wears like their Arabic racist Iraqi generlas, keep our fingers vcrossed for the future of Kurdish children. and funny this brutal state critizise3 Israel..nice joke
7. How to Torture a Whole Nation and get support from Isreal.
Nasrina ,   Occupied Kurdistan   (01.17.10)
The Kurds of Turkey have been subjected to torture in the cities and rural areas. Many obsservers who study the Kurds do fully describethe extent of torture the Kurdish population undergoes. When the members of the Turkish elite units visit the Kurdish villages,their aim is the destruction of the Kurds as a whole as a distinct people. The Kurdish lands have been subjected to an ethnic cleansing for decades. 3 million Kurds have been driven away from their homes; they wonder inthe large cities as destitute refugees. 3.500 Kurdish villages havebeen destroyed. Three Kurdish cities have been bombed and some oftheir business districts have been set afire. Shame on Isreal , how can you deal with such brutal state.
8. maybe wrong expression but correct message and understanding
ralph   (01.17.10)
9. ALL ( ALL) TURKISH PEOPLE TOGETHER AS ONE ABOUT GAZA CRIMES.
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (01.17.10)
THIS IS THE POINT ISRAEL REFUSES TO SEE. *** TURKISH PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ANYTHING THEY FEEL OUT. TURKISH MOVIE MAKERS CAN MAKE ANYTHING THEY WANT. WRITERS CAN WRITE ANYTHING THEY WANT ... ... ... THESE ARE NOT ABOUT ERDOĞAN BUT TURKISH PEOPLE'S OWN FEELINGS. *** lieberman ! trust me that no turkish people cares or wonders about him.
10. ayalon
observer ,   telaviv   (01.17.10)
according to Yisrael B. officials Ayalon is finished politically... www.wikipedia.com
11. Ayalon's "mistake"
Spencer ,   Israel   (01.17.10)
Perhaps Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister made a mistake. Well, he and israel have apologised. However I haven't seen any apology from Turkey for the insult on our President and not have I seen any action on the part of the Turkish Authorities to curb the antisemitic carryings on in their country. Come on now....this is NOT a one way street. If Turkey expects Israel to apologise, then so too, should Turkey apologise.
12. ayalon is weak
alexi   (01.17.10)
this is the problem of installing weak men ayalon or olmert or beilin into power. Ayalon trying to compensate or please to cover up his own cowardice acts like a bully in an idiotic slight to Turkey's consul.Everyone knows you follow diplomatic courtesy even if you 100% regject blowtorch erdogan's comments. No, but then ayalon muses about expelling turkey's ambassador if the effrontery of tv broadcasts continue. Enough, kick this weakling out of office. The same should have been done with beilij, ben ami, olmert, ramon. These are weaklings of historic proportion. No one knows this, but olmert was undertaking to erdogan that he would honor a deal for the golan giveaway and would give a warning if military action occurred. Then gaza happened and erdogan felt doublecrossed. Olmert had fear for his life and left turkey abruptly. Olmmert had no idea of the committments he was making to turkey . He was a fish out of water/ Everything that olmert touched turned to rot. He is crooked as they come and belongs in jail. He gives talks in the US for 50,000 a speech gloating at the concessions he offered and that they should be used as a st arting point in negotiations, agreeing with his anti israel audiences at american universitites. He is a scumbag.
13. Long live Leiberman !
Janice Cohen ,   Jerusalem Israel   (01.17.10)
14. Meanwhile Turkey persecutes 20 million Kurds and steal their
Elly ,   VIenna, Austria   (01.17.10)
The KUrds were promised a land in 1919. Turkey stole it and persecutes 20 million Kurds. And the world says nothing.
15. LIberman shaking hands with a Norwegian Quisling
LIliane ,   Brighton, UK   (01.17.10)
Great: now we see LIeberman shaking hands with a Norwegian Quisling. Mr Stoehr is an antisemite.
16. Lieberman, recall Oren over South Park's Cartman...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.17.10)
...come on. Don't just go after Turkey over a TV show. Start combing the American TV airwaves and see what you come up with... Think BIG Avi, come on, attack the good ol' USA in the same way as you attacked Turkey. In our great country, a world bastion of free speech, there is a wealth of stuff that makes the Turkey TV thing pale in comparison. If Israel's glorious FM had any real stones, he would go after Sugar Daddy. But he does not. He will capitulate as well.
17. The way is was before the throwup muslum president was
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (01.17.10)
elected? erogen just wants to take turkey 100% into the radical camp of iran and syria and he will accomplish that, Israel will help him by kissing his behind.
18. to # 17, Turkey and the USA
Vince ,   Canada   (01.17.10)
You can thank your own US government for having an Islamic Governmnet in Turkey. It was Powell and his masters in the whitehouse idea to force the military in Turkey to allow "democratic elections" in Turkey just as these morrons did perviously in Iran. The Reason being they didn't like this power block of Turkey-Israel to survive, it was bad for their controlling interest in the region. They rather have Islamic governments in place (Iran,Turkey,Iraq) than pro western governments who can with a power to make their own decision. That is why the white house fought to have that slime Olmart in place ( maybe getting rid of Sharon was no medical error?)
19. Lieberman: Humiliation of Turkish envoy a mistake
Marco ,   Spian   (01.17.10)
Lieberman, your whole miserable existance is a mistake!
20. my fruitcake namesake #19, check out #7
Marco El Puerco,Puta ,   MadreImperio Español   (01.17.10)
and learn real history and suffering instead of your Jihadi Al Takyia propaganda
21. Turkish Masacre
khoshnaw ,   S.Kurdistan   (01.17.10)
On November 19 ,2009Alevi organizations organize a conference on the ‘Dersim genocide of 1937-1938’ and the massacres against Alevis in Turkey. The meeting is hosted by the leftwing EU parliamentary group EUL/NG. The conference comes after the first visit to Dersim by the Turkish president Abdula Gull The goal of the conference is to give more attention to the position of the Alevi in Turkey. The organizers says the rights Alevi, Kurds and Armenians were ignored since the foundation of the Turkish republic. “Alevi’s and Kurds are deprived of democratic constitutional rights”. The organizations want to ‘stop assimilation of Alevi’s’ and the recognition of Alevi rights in Turkey. According to the organizers between 12.000 and 70.000 people were massacred in the Kurdish Alevi province of Dersim by the Turkish government in 1937-38. Members of Alevi organizations, EU MPS, academics, journalists will participate in the conference, including witnesses of the ‘Dersim genocide’. Participants are Oral Çalışlar, Derya Sazak, Doğu Ergil, Faik Bulut, Erdoğan Aydın, Ufuk Uras, Şerafettin Halis, Kemaml Bülbül, Aysel Tuğluk, Mehmet Bayrak, Yeter Gültekin and Sema Kaygusuz.
22. Primative values ,very Democractic Turkey teaches Isreal
Mazlum Dogan ,   N. Kurdistan   (01.18.10)
There is a big student accommodation building in Istanbul that is under the control of the racists. One of the common practices of the management is this: When students belonging to a racist group bash someone nothing happens, however, if a student, rightly or wrongly, involves in a fight with someone from their group he is immediately kicked out. The Head Office is very well aware of this but does not do anything to stop it. There are students from Arab countries, Central Asian countries, Albania, Russia, Georgia and Africa. They use their mother tongue without any problems resulting from it; however, if someone from the racists hears a Kurd speaking in his mother tongue, you can be sure the Kurd will pay a high price for speaking Kurdish. They will watch him and one night 15, 20 or God knows how many will attack him in a dark corner and beat the hell out of him. Many victims have had broken bones or lost a number of teeth as a result of such brutal acts. Last March, when Turkish police accused a 13 year old Kurdish boy in the town of Marsin of throwing the Turkish flag on the ground during the Kurdish Newroz celebration, the “avenging” atrocities of the fascists also reached this student accommodation building in Istanbul. Students belonging to racist groups toured the premises and demanded that Kurdish students have a Turkish flag displayed in their rooms. There are countless similar examples of intimidation.
23. Translated from Swedish& looking forward for an Israeli film
Narina ,   N. Kurdistan   (01.18.10)
In March 1997 I traveled in a minibus together with seven friends through the mountains of Kurdistan in the southeast of Turkey. Martial law was proclaimed in the whole area since 1980 and in almost all towns curfew prevails. To be safe we had gotten permission from the minister of foreign affairs in Ankara to make this journey. Our driver gave me the first of many testimonies about the terror. "I am from the district of Kulp," he started. "The villages there have been burnt to the ground several times. In 1992, 65 villages were put on fire on one day. In the whole county of Kulp there were earlier 70.000 people. Today there are only 4-5000. Those who dare to stay in the villages face very hard conditions. In 1988 Özel Tim (Special Forces) came to my village to enroll me as a village guard. That means you get a rifle and a uniform from the state and you are supposed to kill your brothers. When I refused they threatened me to take me to the mountain, dress me like a PKK guerrilla, put a gun in my arms and kill me. Refugee camp. Photo: courtesy HADEP, Turkey, hadepgm@yahoo.com In 1992 they came back and destroyed my house with a grenade thrower. I tried to escape with my friends in my minibus. The military stopped us and ordered us to go out. The bus was totally destroyed by a rocket. The commander pointed at the bus and said ‘So, you don’t want to be a village guard? Look at your bus! Remember, the bus was destroyed by PKK.’ After this I moved to Diyarbakir. My cousin stayed in Kulp and became a village guard. Six month ago he was killed by Özel Tim for suspected connection with PKK." Turkey Criticize Israel..YES
24. #18 Correct! We haven't had a REAL president for so long, I
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (01.18.10)
think it may have been Reagan but more like Kennedy.
25. Dear Kurdish friends
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.19.10)
The discrimination against your people in the Middle East has been close to my heart for almost 40 years ever since I had become acquainted with Mullah Mustafa Barzani The injustices inflicted on you by the bullies in this region and the ignoring your right purpose by the international community are earth shattering You are the largest nation in the world, 40 million strong, that doesn't have a sovereign country, while the world cares about 1/10th of your population of Arbs that already have 21 independent countries over three continents. This hypocrisy is astonishing. Jews, Kurds, Armenians/Arameans, Greeks, Copts and Druzees of the Middle East must join forces in order to get rid of the Arb-Iranian-Turkish axis of evil oppressing us. Uniting our national struggles with one voice is the only way we can be successful in our quest for achieving our just common cause
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