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Tough words turn into whisper
Orly Azoulay
Published: 23.01.10, 13:09
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1. US and ME
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (01.23.10)
I'm no Obama supporter. That being said, there's no winning for any US president, when it comes to the ME. It's either "Mind your own business," "You should have pounded the table" as per this article, " "The US just doesn't understand the dynamics of the ME," "The US is owned by the Saudis," and last but not least, "The Jews run the US." At the end of the day, it always and still comes down to this: You cannot force two addicts into rehab, especially at the same time, until they want to and both of them rrealize that they'll die, if they don't.
2. Wise fellow
Jack   (01.23.10)
3. This president is just going to be the actor in the
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.23.10)
White House playing world leader. He wouldn't even step foot in Haiti.....He obviously doesn't care about foreign policy. He seems to be carrying a war on against the banks and anyone who annoys him over petty things like bonuses. Even though many of us think the bankers should lose their bonuses....we also realize that contracts were signed which gauranteed these bone heads the money. They should have put it down on paper that no bonuses were to be given after the loans were made. This guy doesn't seem to want any foreign policy entanglements that would cost any money. Therefore....he isn't a leader...he is a closet case playing with bankers, trying to make the public happier while doing so. This is the type of person you might find happily playing on the floor with his hot wheels set in the White House.......while Rome burned. They wanted no more war.......No more activity is what they voted in.
4. perspective
tom ,   toronto, canada   (01.23.10)
obama does not walk on water. his simplistic view of the middle east appealed to american (and especially jewish) voters during an election campaign, but has little or no viability on the ground, any more than his plan to stop terrorism has deterred islamists from attacking the states. and the basis of his "solution", namely giving away Jerusalem (which does not belong, and has never legally belonged to the arabs), and creating yet another arab palestinian state, 12 km from tel aviv and ruled by fatah, isn't even wishful thinking - it's lunacy. by holding out the hope of destroying israel, obama is not bringing the middle east any closer to peace.
5. what if one doesnt beleve peace is possible?
sam   (01.23.10)
that would really pull the carpet under the entire way of reasoning of the author, wouldnt it?
6. Maintain the status quo another 17 more years negotiations
Ann   (01.23.10)
Israel wants negotiation No precondition and...No stoppage of illegal settlements. USA can't stand vs. Jewish lobby, this will only encourage extremism’’
7. Week of 19-22 JAN 10 gregorian
AY_Lamb ,   Globestan   (01.23.10)
Comments made by senior pentagon leaders. Bush policies still in affect 1. Israel displays pattern of surreptitiously attacking its neighbors. 2. Israel conducts illegal provocative attacks on others. 3. Israel is non-secular, theocratic state that is intolerant and undemocratic, it persecutes minorities (to include Christians) and conducts racial-profiling. 4. Israel only has technology because American leftist administrations provided said technology due to misplaced guilt and manipulation by Israelis. 5. I was forbidden to use word Shoa and told to use word Holocaust which I was told is spurious anyway due to the effects of war propaganda and lack of physical evidence visa vis "no bodies" discovered. 6. "Jewish" Israelis insidiously and maliciously interfere in the internal functioning of bureaucratic / political systems in america. Fox noise is running specials on "Liberal Fascism". Rupert Murdoch's Masonic buddies Floyd Brown and David Bossie have just successfully eliminated the last precept of democracy through a Supreme Court decision voted directly in accordance with the Judges political values.
8. Azoulay:"grab the refuseniks by the hair"
Yagoda ,   Dixieland   (01.23.10)
Who is this mentally challenged guy? Seriously asking all cognizant, erudite persons: Doesn't he confuse this Chicago street organizer, an absolute nobody with the omnipotent Titus Flavius Vespasianus who ruled the Jews in Roman times? Does Mr. Azoulay know that the Chicago "Messiah" is not an emperor but somebody that half of the USA despises and who achieved nothing in his life. Sometimes one cannot suppress the stupefaction at reading such an half baked articles in the 21st. century.
9. Narcissist
Bob ,   Mechburg USA   (01.23.10)
The President is a narcissist and considers everyone and every thing around him to be there as a part of the world wide game to sooth his narcissistic beliefs in himself. Note, a narcissist is not just someone who looks at him/herself in every mirror or reflective surface they come across; a narcissist to be concerned about is one that has Narcissistic Personality Disorder where they have a grandiose, but false image of themselves and their importance. This is what I believe, Barrack Insane Obama is suffering. Although, it is really us that are suffering isn't it?
10. Obama was NEVER concerned with Israel's well being
bill Pearlman ,   new York, USA   (01.23.10)
11. Goodness, the projection in this thread...
BBSNews 17:30 ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.23.10)
...very revealing of the wingnut mindset. President Obama is simply doing what "moderate" Israel have been terrified of for many years, walking away and letting Bibi own it all. And don't bother calling at 3:00 am. The US President has far better things to do then play around with a recalcitrant rightwing extremist Likud Leader with an evil racist political platform just like Hamas' and a fascist government. When y'all grow up, give the US a call.
12. #5
Michael ,   Haifa   (01.23.10)
then the alternative is never ending bloodshed...is that what you want ?
13. Now if we could get the US to stop aiding the terrorists
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (01.23.10)
A step in the right direction. Odumba don't away mad, just go away and stay away. The US trains the terrorist Fatah movement and arms them. Plus pays the salaries of Hamas terrorists. If we could end that we might be able to start talking peace. Until the US gets out of the way there can never be peace because the Arabs will never do anything to have peace because idiots like Odumba are constantly telling them that they can have their demands and do nothing. That is the rub right there.
14. to 1
sahar ,   jerualem   (01.23.10)
america say ..first us or me but never yours
15. whisper
colin   (01.23.10)
Finally the islamic american president realises he is an idiot.Nobody listen to a crybaby. Oabama has nothing for Israel Let his go to school and learn a bit of history.The world will not accept his socialistic junk Russia got rid of the socialistic system and progressed. This islamic fool is only involveing america into very heavy debt.Poundimg a table he will hurt his hands.They have never done a days work.
16. Trying to understand the arab....
Malone ,   Hfx   (01.23.10)
....mindset while thinking with the western mindset,will never work.
17. To Paraphrase Rashi....
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.23.10)
"Disappointment and depression are a result of unfulfilled expectations". Dear Mr. Obama, Solution? Lower your expectations. You will feel much better in the morning. Best regards,
18. #8
Gert ,   Vienna   (01.23.10)
LOL... Orly Azoulay is a woman according to name. But I agree with your assessment of this article. This nonsense is an opinion of Abbas. Is the author apply for Palestinian citizenship? Or she is living in her personal dreamland - far from ME and the Earth?
19. THere are only two parties who can ever resolve the crisis.
leo ,   usa   (01.23.10)
Obama's vision, my vision, your vision are irrelevant. Obama, let it go as it goes.
20. Orly Azoulay's Traitorous Mentality
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (01.23.10)
B"H How can Orly Azoulay forget that Israel is not a third party in the conflict but a player and wish for foreign pressure and external influence to be applied on it? She doesn't want Israel to be Jewish? Bad enough. What she is saying now however is that she doesn't want Israel even to be democratic, if the majority vote goes against the left's thinking-pattern: completely derailed.
21. I told u b4 he's the Junior President from the US
(01.23.10)
he was elected because everyone was angry over Mr. Bush's stupid decisions and so he'll be another flash in the pan like Mr. Carter a 4 yr president and the republicans will be back in 2012. and if the Americans aren't careful they'll end up with Mrs. Palin as President! Yak!
22. AMERIKA IS ECONOMICALY IN ( DEAD ) LUMBER THESE DAYS...
..REFREEZE THE PEACE ,   ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (01.24.10)
23. Plenty to do
David   (01.24.10)
If Mr. Obama really wanted to do something useful in the M.E. he should go after the Iranian nuclear threat first. After that he can deal with Hizbollah and Hamas. At that point it would be much easier to forge a peace between Israel and Palestinians represented by Jordan.
24. what are you talking about #21? You are you kidding, right?
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.24.10)
this bum doesn't qualify even for intern president application let alone what you mention how the he fooled the American people on every single issue, and there are more surprises in store coming from him!
25. #11 Recalcitrant-Yep,that fit's Obuslim to the tee.He is
thin skinned&gets ,   his feelings hurt.   (01.24.10)
26. I cannot believe this guy is the leader of the free world.
Nathan ,   Israel   (01.24.10)
Who the hell does he think he is? His far left socialistic ways have run itno a brick wall where reality in the ME is concerned. He thinks he can come over here and demand like Jeremiah Wright, and we will all bow down to his majesty. The US press has produced an idiotic monster and now the whole world sees it. How they expected a community organizer to be head of a entire nation is beyond me. Hell, it's beyond stupid. His arrogant compodr'e Rahmbo filled his head with grandioese dreams of sugar plums in his head. This guy does not take criticism nor rejection very well. Not a good thing when you are a leader. While I'm glad he will no longer push his peace plan on us, I must say that this guy is a quitter in every sense of the word. Can you imagine a president of the US quitting on ME peace just because it's hard??? My question to this bumbling bafoon is "Who the hell ever said it was going to be easy"??? Did he really think he was going to turn around the crisies the the US, Israel,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Iran and the rest of the world in the span of just 9 months??? Puhleez!! This guy must still be taking cocaine like he did when he was 'trying to find his way', cause let me tell you that he is acting like a spoiled kid who has to have his own way, and he acts like one whose brain is fried from copious amounts of drugs. Good luck America. I hope the next 3 years go by quickly for you and that the next guy you elect has some real experience.
27. Hey Obaama-Whay,whay,whay. Keep it up and we'll call you a
damn whambulance! ,   Laid off medic.   (01.24.10)
28. Peace with an "even if" clause is NOT peace It is submission
Robert Blum ,   New Albany, USA   (01.24.10)
some 100,000 Muslims have illegally infested Jerusalem. They are on Jewish land. According to the Leftist stipulations of former president, clinton, Jewish areas reded in by Jews will become Jewish israel, while those areas infested by a majority (even illegally), will become so-called "palestinian" land. The Tzar, Dictator- Muslim Obama, plans to issue a letter in a couple of weeks guaranteeing Israel support during this proposed 2 year crisis-transition. His letter will also commit to Israeli security.....Well, why should Israel accept such a Muslim-favored, Israeli-defeat of a plan and what worth any Obama guarantees, when in fact he scorned and negated the written guarantees which his predecessor, Goerge Bush had given to Israel? Moreover, Dictator, Muslim Hussein BaraK Obama wants to install Jordanian troops and "international" forces in collaboration with the so-called "palestinians", to secure the borders...Islam and its armies were defeated in their attack on Israel in the 1967 war that Islam started! Why must self-hating leftist Jews who do NOT respect Torah and its teachings of how our G-d-given land of Israel is holy and belongs to the children of Israel, be allowed to demand & dictate "peace" to Israel? For the Muslim propagandists and their apologists, the children of Israel are JEWS, whether converted from Khazakistan as Islam claims, or otherwise!
29. the writer actually thinks ME peace can be had?
dur dur dur ,   what is he smokin???   (01.24.10)
30. seek the truth
excuse me orly   (01.24.10)
you sound like a dictator. both abbas & bibi are adults. nothing van be forced upon them. it is even dangerous to say that there is one peace plan. this by definition is doomed to failure. there has to be a process. neither the pals nor israel can be bullied. the bully will be the loser. obama actually tried to be a bully but failed. had he been a big bully there would have been war. i'm not an obama fan at all. i think is stupid. but here he has no choice but to stay OUT of it. the arab world but recognize that israel has a right to exist. it is a bitter pill to swollow. when that happens israel will have no choice but to relinquish more territory than it has. plz do not forget that israel has given up a lot. the arab world has given up NOTHING
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