...obviously you have a reading comprehension problem, here's what I wrote: "...Israel will regret trying to tie the War on Gaza to the Holocaust. How utterly obscene, macabre, even evil. Do you really think diaspora Jews are going to be impressed with this truly unholy act? (And I'm an atheist but I recognize an unholy act when I see one). This could not a stupider move made; now the world will really want to know why the Goldstone Report is such a threat. It will wind up being more widely read, and adopted, then ever before after such a bone-headed and purely irreverent act." Trying to tie the Holocaust to the Goldstone Report is evil. I know Matty says that the term evil is overused, and that may be true. But I think in this case it is wholly justified. It is pure evil to use the Holocaust as an excuse for what Israel wrought in Gaza before and after the War on Gaza. I await your apology for twisting my words and lying about what I wrote.

Thank you Ilana. I agree with most of your post though I believe we Israel supporters must not allow the Jew/Iraeli bashers to have a voice here.We must answer them all. I give my cat more attention than I do to the likes of Matty Groves, BBS, Resistor,Observer, Mikesailer,Nour & the rest of them.

you are dead set against this ideology when you really should be embracing it. So until you do, you remain a common anti-semite.

...as well as the world's security. Many may not remember - being caught up in the current anti-President Obama frenzy in Israel - but the President of the United States made clear that a fair and just peace deal between the Palestinians and Israel is a US National Security Interest. That's because Israel's actions damage security far outside of Israel, including the United States. And Vinny, you are a serious PR problem for Israel. Your remark to Matty "YOUR evil, you little anti-semetic mutt." Is a case in point. Not only the fact that you cannot spell and your grammar is poor, but you make vile accusations that had they been made to a Jew in this talkback, *would* be antisemitism. In fact, I learned far more about antisemitism from Jews and Zionist Christians in these talkbacks then I personally care for. The depths of the personal invective that wingnuts like you spew in the face of completely verifiable facts is amazing in its backwardsness. I challenge you to rebut one fact that Matty wrote in comment #20. Everything Matty wrote is irrefutable verifiable fact. I suspect you know that. That's why you made the lame attempt at deflection in your personal and illogical attack on Matty. You KNOW the truth. You are just too terrified to admit it because your precious anti-reality ideology would come crashing down all around you...

IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid

bibi has to stop begging the world to stop evil as they will not. Indeed part of the Un is made up of evil. Ahmadinejad should be removed from the scene and one in south america likewise. Hitler would not have moved against powerful israel. Jews have to be all trained martial citizens. No more shtetl jews allowed. No more chosen people without physical skills. After haiti and its thanks to israel, it is obviously depressing to return to the same old from abbas, rights, return of territories, abuse, likewise from the blood drippers of assad, nasrollah and iran. A natural disaster is needed to clean up problems. Obama will not confront iran not because he is a jimmy carter coward, rather that he has moslem inclinations. Israel has to do what it can and assume that is acting alone. Whatever, contrary to avinery, beilin, olmert. livni and dekel who was a sellout, concessions encourage war not peace. besides arabs have absolutely no intention to set up a state with responsbilies. they prefer handout from the UN.

Here folks is proof of how BBS twists the words of talkbacks; ........."But you make vile accusations that had they been made to a Jew in this talkback, *would* be antisemitism" You cannot base your agrguement on "had they been" & "would be " There is nothing wrong with Vinny's spelling nor his grammer in his post. Matty's post is so irrefutable & true that he cant even comment on my answer to his post.

...are you really claiming that everyone who does not embrace Zionism is antisemitic? Wow. I am always constantly amazed at what depths wingnuts can reach. Today's Zionism is not the milk and honey vision that Theodor Hertzl had in mind. I thoroughly support that vision but Israel has not even managed to come up with the written constitution, promised upon the declaration of the state, that would provide equal rights for ALL. Go figure... Israel has its state. The fact is that today's Zionism, a perversion of Hertzl's vision, is about stealing more land and resources beyond Israel's internationally recognized borders. There is simply nothing antisemitic in pointing out facts.

Zionism is not the government of Israel & its policies. Zionism is the legitimate (even according to the UN General Assembly resolution) right of the dispersed Jewish people to return to their homeland, the land where the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob became a people, became the Jewish Nation. More than three thousand years ago, & for over a thousand years, that place was known as Israel.

I think you miss the point. My previous post was in relation to the usage of the term ‘evil’ and how it is miss used. The actions you describe can all be called ‘evil’ yet so can the actions I mentioned. For Bibi to use the term ‘evil’ I, or anyone else, can equally use the term to describe the many inhumane actions (eg; war crimes) committed by Israel/IDF. Yes there are. However you and many people here cannot acknowledge the flip side let alone discuss the matter. Bob Haymond is a classic clinical example of this observable fact. Or to give another example; I can say that the use of human shields by the likes of Hamas is a war crime as is the usage of civilians by the IDF as human shields. I have just acknowledge that both parties are guilty of this specific war crime. Most (nearly all actually) rabid wingnuts here can’t be this objective and honest in their ‘perception’ of the IDF. Tell me Birdi, as an Israeli what are you doing to stop this ‘evil’ war crime (using Palestinian civilians as human shields) committed by the IDF?

Matty I am not an elected member of the Knesset. I am a civilian. Would you like me to enter Gaza during the next war & stop all the atrocities ? You may ask the same question to Hamas about using Palestinian human shields. There are atrocities in every war & not you nor I can stop them. If you feel the need to talk to Robert, go ahead but dont talk to me over his head. I cannot answer for Robert.

My post # 41 is in reply to post # 40.

So that you could recommend your own comments over and over again? I noticed recently that many of your comments get red for no real reason. If you think that you making them red would make them any more convincing, you are quite wrong.

it reallly show s how ignorant all of you haters are ....

see what kind of twisted individual they are.....

Good obseravtion Tahl. I was wondering why his posts are highlighted.