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Shas rabbi: Ahmadinejad can go to hell
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 14.02.10, 07:24
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1. jews believe there's a hell?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.14.10)
maybe i missed the rabbi's sermon that week.
2. Mike , "can go to hell" also means
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.14.10)
every place where this guy can be tortured and liquidated . For once i fully agree with Rabbi Ovadia Yossef , all haman's should burn . Not the "ozne haman" of course
3. So Ovadia Yosef is your leader Mike?
B.Y. Stander ,   HaAretz   (02.14.10)
Don't think he thinks much of your Jzeus.
4. to #1 yeah they do, where do they
ghostq   (02.14.10)
mention hell couple of times in the old testament, even the devils name mostly in pagan name, the Hebrew word for hell is Geybenhinum, which is old place in Jerusalem a place the Philistins use to sacrify babies to the pagan god MULECH very interesting cause they put an end to that barbaric ritual. they also believe in angels and in masayah theirs is undefine person, and they also believe in resarection in the the dry bones prophecy, you be surprise how many things r in common.
5. The right one, the truth...
moshe bar Noach ,   london, Canada   (02.14.10)
6. 1 thing for sure
Gill ,   Montreal Canada   (02.14.10)
They way they wish to destroy the Jewish nation will kill them!!!! I see nothing bad in his speech. But alot bad in ynet. So much hate from ynet.
7. 3 - hey teh pakeed
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.14.10)
my guess is that since your nutzarim group also teaches about jesus, the rabbi's opinion doesn't bode well for you and yours, either.
8. Hamanidinijad
Hal ,   Usa   (02.14.10)
Rest assured Rebbe, This Haman is already there. The Iranian people have been living there for 31 years by the hand of their Hamanite govt. By the hand of G-d almighty these devils will know no peace until the people through their Moloch into the abyss.
9. Persia (Iran) has sure produced some terrible enemies for
Rivkah   (02.14.10)
the Jews. But we all know what happened with Haman and his ten sons. The gallows he prepared for Mordecai and the Jews was used to execute Haman and his ten sons. The ELS Torah codes are most interesting on Hitler (another enemy of the Jews) since the matrix occurs at the verses in the Bible where Haman and his ten sons were hung. Hitler's ten lieutenants were hung, not shot or electricuted. Just like the ten sons of Haman, they were hung on a gallows. Enemies of the Jews do not prosper for long if they attack the Jews. They may be successful in harming some or many Jews, but the outcome is the destruction of the enemies of the Jews when Y'hovah defeats them.
10. I've never come across a rabbi that hates ashkenazim so much
dave ,   uk   (02.14.10)
11. Wow !
Michael ,   Haifa   (02.14.10)
Ahmedinejad must be p---ng in his pants
12. Angels & ashkenazims
Yossef ,   J'lem   (02.14.10)
@4 : the jewish understandingn of מלאך (angel) is "messenger" of the divine will. For example the law of gravitation is a malakh, see Rambam (Maimonides) for this discussion, "The guide of the perplexe". @10: Yossef Ovadia doesnt hate ashkenazim he just want hebrew to be spoken the right way which is completely is role. Hebrew is a semitic language and the right pronounciation is the yemenite one, that is sephardi. It has been decided long ago now.
13. to #12 you wrong the images
ghostq   (02.14.10)
on god's Ark was 2 winged angels also named Kruvim. not messangers real angels. sheesh I am explaining a jew about his own religion, and that got nothing to do with jew origin, go back to the old testament and tell me the description of the Ark, judaism also recognize devine order, and sometimes it mention as god's messengers. with Hora. not just flash and blood beings. something that had devine intervantion.
14. Ovadiah can go to Cheder
Gershon ,   London UK   (02.14.10)
Whilst I applaud the former Chief Rabbi's sentiments re "Hamanidinajad" - and its true that son of Amalek will indeed have a very special hot spot in hell (and will no doubt bring himself and own people to destruction, very soon PG) - still his comments re Ashkenazim were very unworthy. In fact they reveal the very source of the power of the Hamans and the Hitlers etc. -' yesh am meforad umefuzar bein Hoamim' (Ashkenazi pronunciation!) -' there is a nation divided and spread out amongst the nations. ' It was the divisiveness and division amongst the Jews that contributed to Haman's ability to threaten them. So too it is precisely Ovadiah Yosef's infantitle rantings about the "true" Sephardic pronuniation and his uncanny "yetzer harah" to take a swipe at Ashkenazim that makes the likes of Hamanadinajad rejoice"!! Is it in Sefardic cheder he learnt such childish gaavah and sinaat chinam?! Go back and learn the basics of Judaism - ahavat Yisrael and achdut Yisrael, then perhaps you will HELP send today's Haman go to hell instead of making his work easier!!
15. BUT WHY?!!!
Yafa ,   Palestine   (02.14.10)
Ovadia Yosef Are not you that called to kill all Palestinians including children and babies by as you said, so the Jews devote themselves to study Torah?! As I remember You, who described the Palestinians as cockroaches and rats, with other such language which I wonder whether it is the predominant language in your sermons, which will receive?! Unfortunately, you are no different from Ahmadinejad, who in any case (not to defend him) but we did not hear such language of the Jews from him
16. to #15 y palis think the r the center
ghostq   (02.14.10)
of the univers, some ego you got, he was talking on Haman, a man that lived in persia really long time ago. and stop be so self riotous the Mufti of jerusalem did far worse than calling he met Hitler and established SS devision.
17. Hell
Michael Zvi krumbein ,   Haifa, Israel   (02.14.10)
First, Judaism believes in Heaven and Hell and even Purgatory (we just use the same name as for Hell). Where do you think the Christians got it from? Second, I wouldn't trust these translations. There is no such expression in Hebrew, and I have a feeling he said something else.
18. No he doesn't hate Ashkenazim
Michael Zvi Krumbein ,   Haifa, Israel   (02.14.10)
Actually, Rav Yosef is probably closer to Ashkenazim than most. I would not trust Ynet (and certainly not that other paper that we will not mention here) to understand what he said. At least they said "tease" instead of something stronger..
19. "our brothers, the ashkenazim"
Shlomo ,   rehovot   (02.14.10)
If you read his book, you notice everytime he refers to ashkenazim he refers to them by " ahinoo ha ashkenazim" (our brothers the ashkenazim). So, i don't think you can say he hates ashkenazim.
20. I HAVE COMMENTS, LOTS OF 'EM
.....DACON9   (02.14.10)
#15) Each has a role.Rabbi Ovadias role os to return ALL JEWS to proper TORAH..by the way, where is palistine? Amedededednejadjad role is to bring JEWS to the graves in action, not to curse us JEWS with words. #14) I didnt understand a word of your hebrew being YOU DIVIDED US JEWS.IT IS *YOU that left your roots accepting Berlin as *your JERUSALEM and DRESSING LIKE BATMAN IN BLACK european dress and accents. Why is pushing europeans back to our origins sinaat chinam.Why when anyone wants to bring out the wrongs a jew does its called divisive and lashon Hara and sinaan chinam? Why dont you tell us about our ''OBLIGATION TO REBUKE OUR FELLOW JEW WHEN HE SWAYS THE OTHER WAY. You adopted berlin and hitler found you.200 years later. TIMETO GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINS. #13) IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH OF OUR TORAH why are you still NOT A RIGHTEOUS GENTILE by adopting the noahide laws and dismissing your other gods. #10) TRUTH HURTS YOU BECAUSE OF FALSE PRIDE IN A CUSTOM? Rabbi is telling the euro JEWS to go back to our roots....in mannerism and speech. THE EURO JEWS DONT HAVE TO disquise themselfs ANYMORE..like they did in germany #7) is #3 'b.y stander',, paqid the internet missionary disguised as a orthodox jew? #5)...HUH? #4) JEWS have NOTHING in common with xtians, NOTHING.bECAUSE XTIANS HAVE COPIED much TORAH and twisted it does not make a bond in any way. TORAH TEACHES JEWS TO SEPARATE FROM YOU. #3) is that really you 'paqid'..the xtian missionary stealing JEWS into your idol worship..substituting words to trick JEWS? there is n place for you after your judgement. IT IS WRITTEN YOUR SOUL WILL PERISH ALONG WITH OTHERS THAT DAMAGED JEWS #2) who cares if you agreed..you are not even a flea compared to the greatness of A UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTING TORAH GIANT RABBI OVADIA YOSEF. #1) heaven and hell ,reward and punishment... DID YOU THINK THAT JEWS PRACTICE 'party all night and dont worry about it?' ALL THIS TIME YOU HAVE BEEN SUBMITTING TO YNET YOU HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING? well this took some effort to comment.I wonder if YNET will post this. At least the YNET censors get to read my brilliance and sarcasm. DACON9 EMAIL:jewswithviews@gmail.com
21. hell is a process, not a place?
observer   (02.14.10)
Gehenna is not hell, but rather a sort of Purgatory where one is judged based on his or her life's deeds. The Kabbalah describes it as a "waiting room" for all souls (not just the wicked). People are not in Gehenna forever; the longest that one can be there is said to be 11 months. But, how can you judge time by months if you you believe that G-d created time and the sort of time in the afterlife is different from what we know i.e. is it light-year/light-month scale? and, is the occasional exception to the 11 month more or less? For Muslims, God only judges the time for everything in the after life; there is no 11 month or so limit. If man knows that he will run through cleaning process for a limited time in the afterlife, you will have 100% wicked people in our world. From where do Jews learn Judaism; from Exodus or 10 commandment movie? does the rabbi know?
22. anf of course YNET does not agree with that
chaim.s ,   brooklyn ny   (02.14.10)
according to the criminaly insane leftist's at YNET, hell is only for the chareidim and the rightwingers. YNET and the rest of the traitorous left ist media is a much bigger danger to Israel than Iran and the rest of the arab world combined
23. Good for him. More Israelis should have such backbone &
Jae ,   Lynn US   (02.14.10)
integrity of convictions.
24. Rav Yosef
g.man ,   u.k.   (02.14.10)
May the Almighty bless Rabbi Yosef and all the other Tsadikim of the generation until they are at least 120 yrs of age, with good health and continuing wisdom.
25. to 1#
ygalg ,   israel   (02.14.10)
synonymous to "get lost"
26. no exemption from eternal hell even for rabbis
observer   (02.14.10)
how do they teach their own people that they will go to hell only for few days? did G-d give them His binding promise? or did they quote G-d saying what they do not know?! to #24, as if Rabbi were saying: God, see what a great king and lord I am! See how rich, smart, and pious I am! See what a handsome lad or lass I am in comparison to others! Be gracious to me, help me, and in view of all of this save me! The other people are not as deserving, because they are not so handsome, rich, smart, pious, noble, and high-born as I am." What, do you suppose, should such a prayer merit?
27. never let it be said...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (02.14.10)
... that rabbi ovadiah yosef missed an opportunity to sow unity among the children of israel! even if his notion of linguistic "superiority" were correct (and since when does he recognize the validity of modern sciences?), the yemenites would still argue that sephardic pronunciation is no more "authentic" than ashkenazi! the loss of the distinction between taf and saf is just as significant as distinguishing between alef and ayin. the jewish people needs to find sources of unity, not divisiveness. and if rabbi yosef no longer understands this, then it is time for him to "retire" from a role of leadership. even moshe rabbeinu, a somewhat greater sage than rabbi yosef, reached the limits of his abilities, and handed the reigns to yehoshuah!
28. I'm Ashkenazi and agree with Rav Yosef!
Moshe ,   Canada   (02.14.10)
The Sefardim were much closer to israel. For example, Rav Sa'adya Gaon in the 900s went to Tiberias to learn and then went to Babylon and became the head of the Sura academy in Babylonia (which is nowdays Iraq-Iran). Also, Sefardic pronunciation from Spain, through North Africa, onto Israel, and including Turkey, Syria, and Iran-Iraq is identical in the pronunciation of the Hebrew letters. For instance, I heard the current chief sefardic rabbi of Israel speak, Rav Shlomo Amar and also a Rabbi from Turkey, Rav Leeyon, and they both had the gutteral chet (in addition to all other letters being pronounced the same.) On the other hand, Ashkenazim have a few ways of saying "Torah".
29. He's already there!
Abe Froman ,   NY, NY   (02.14.10)
30. YES, MIKE AND CHARLES: IT'S CALLED GEHINOM
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (02.14.10)
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