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Shas rabbi: Ahmadinejad can go to hell
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 14.02.10, 07:24
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31. GUYS, NO ONE WILL KNOW WHICH IS THE CORRECT WAY, UNTIL...
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (02.14.10)
MOSHIACH.
32. why to curse the Iranian leader?
observer   (02.14.10)
Jerusalem was the capital of Jews for 100 years, but Nejad's ancestor ruled Jerusalem for more than 200 years. To curse the Iranian leader is to try to rip the Persian people off their right for Jerusalem. Luke 21:20: "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near ... for these are days of vengeance. For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people.
33. to #32 y do you Muslims invent stuff
ghostq   (02.15.10)
Persian never rulled Jerusalem you confused with the ancient persian monarch who gave his blessing to the jews to return to Israel and reastablish the second temple, he never visited Jerusalem he just let jews back home. sheesh you Muslim will distort History and religion to your own political agenda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great
34. to #32 please don't quot the new testament
ghostq   (02.15.10)
the people you mention in the qout were the enemies not the jews. the monkey got nothing to do with chrictianity, and his people killed the Shaah persian dynasty, they r the altimate ani-persian shaah great legacy.
35. No. 32
NYC Girl   (02.15.10)
Who cares about that biblical nonsense? The fact is that this mad dog in Tehran has, on more than one occasion, expressed his desire for Israel to be wiped off the map. And now he may be coming closer to gaining the capacity to carry out that threat. Admittedly, nobody knows for certain what the outcome of all of Ahmadinejad's sabre-rattling will ultimately be, It's well-known that he gets his inspiration from an apocalyptic ideology that's so extreme that even the late Ayatollah Khomeini referred to these particular believers as a bunch of nutters. So, that being the case, would you want to be sitting on a beach in Tel Aviv if that little SOB pushes the button? And that, in answer to your rather naive question, is why the rabbi is cursing the Iranian leader.
36. Not Slander But Fantasy, But a Message
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.15.10)
Please everyone go see, "Inglorious Bastards". It was made 70yr too late. Right after Crystal Night would have been also preferable. It is a fantasy, but sends a message, Jews can be fighters, if not cruel. 7nerdy guys and 700 Krauts, for 6.5m gassed, I think the reality pales in comparison. 1.5m little kinder..oh come on critics. Iran's head mullahs, the Rev Guard and Ahmad, the 3 Haman's, all should roast in hell, Jewish or the Christian version. Their goal is for all of us to burn. They say it openly. The good rabbi is right..but is being too mild in his criticism. "Apache" was right on course..no prisoner, no mercy, no quarter for peope who want us obliterated.
37. Hades is More Fitting
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.15.10)
Does anyone take Observer seriously? I don't. Quoting scripture is way to get around the truth. Only the laws of Moses and the Talmud, are the truth. To apply anything re: the history of Persia to current thinking is fallacious. Luke has no meaning for us., besides. That said, when a large country like Iran threatens another with extinction, everyone should take note., especially it's leaders. I would have qualified the hell statement to Hades ( the Christian hell) as opposed to the Jerusalem site in folklore. It's more fitting. I would also have left out the Iranian population now protesting. Or as one Israeli said, "Dont do this to your leader" (referring to Abbas). Tragically, since 1900, the goal of the Arab pop, is the area Judenrein. Nothing has changed. All very sad and disturbing.
38. What is Good and What is Evil, Observer?
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.15.10)
To Observer: I would suggest you go to the Net for a definition, yours is way off track, starting with the number of months. BTW, months are not in G-ds time (no one can comprehend God), but mans. 12 months is 12 months. In fact, the entire idea of a purgatory, or Hades, or the several definitions of hell, are complex. The movie, who cares anyway? It's just a movie. The good rabbi got his point across (something you missed). Iran can go to hell or Hades for foretelling the destruction of the Jewish state. (Using nukes). And that is what counts, not the complex definition of the afterlife, for the good and evil (what is good and what is evil anyway?).
39. It Doesn't Make a Difference
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.15.10)
To Moshe: This is all nonsensical. Who cares which pronunciation is more applicable? Every Jew, Sephardic to the European, is now targeted by those Kassams, Grads, Fajrs, Katys and soon Shihabs. In that event, the pronunciation won't matter much. In fact, it's English that is the 2nd language in Israel..(and Russian not far behind). Every Jew is a Jew, no matter, and in one kettle, (ask Observer his definition and you might be shocked). Christian countries have 100 different languages..and interpretations and images..let's be critical of that reality. Christ is white, black, etc. We are all in the same stew so to speak, and WW2 did not discriminate from Greece to Turkey to Poland. Keeping the Sabbath, charity and love of G-d is what it's all about anyway.
40. No 20 ...
moshe bar Noach ,   london, Canada   (02.15.10)
B"H The right one , the truth. The is only one right one and one truth. If the Rabbi thinks that he holds the right truth then why does he not share it with the rest of humanity? " 1.Praise the L-rd all nations, laud him all peoples 2. For His kindness has overwhelmed us, and the truth of the L-rd is eternal. Hallelu-Yah ! " tehillim 117
41. I'm sure the feeling is mutual, if you ask me.
Persian CAT   (02.15.10)
42. 20 Netzarim Jews keep Torah (2nd try)
Eliyahu ,   Yrushalayim   (02.15.10)
You equate Xtians with Netzarim because of your ignorance of history or because you are parroting something that you have heard. Your libel of the Netzarim and the Honorable Paqid of the Netzarim shows that you keep only portions of Torah just like the Xtians. You have no evidence only your pathetic accusations.
43. 30 - so the rabbi is inviting ahmadinejad to jerusalem?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.15.10)
he wants to give him a a tour of gehonim in silwan? sounds scary.
44. to #20 I am not pagan
ghostq   (02.15.10)
and to be chritian isn't a curse, now I know y nobody likes the ultra orthodox, cause they ignor their own bible, I didn't invent the 2 kruvim thing on god's ark, it's in the bible, and I never said people worship them as pagan way caus none knows how they really looked like only the wings and meturments that is it, y should it offend anyone for me to point the obvious, chrictians also observes jewish customs, and you can't tell nobody how to believe, you r selfish insted of spreading it you keep people from practice it. nice going.
45. to #41 :) nobody aked you
ghostq   (02.15.10)
46. to 20 , Mr le CON
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.15.10)
Of course for you , who think capitals will make you a great one , this ovadia is a giant . But he is'nt for sane people as i am . His most famous word ? : "Get out" , to a journalist . Sure , a giant in senility . But even such people can say something i can agree with .
47. 42 , this "paqid" is only a baptist minister
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.15.10)
not a Jew . No true Orthodox Jew will have his mouth full of Yeshua , better known worldwide as Jesus . No TRUE orthodox Jew will always attack the Rabbanim . Honorable paqid ? a deceiver is "honorable" for you ? Someone deceiving people by having "ministry of absorption" as heading of his website , "honorable" ? DISHONEST , yes . And someone who converted , allegedly , but can't give any name of a TRUE Orthodox Rabbi who acknoweldges it ? what is this ? "honorable" ? Not for me .
48. 42 - but nutzarim teach a 'modified' jesus
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.15.10)
teaching about jesus with a changed name and changed words he did & didn't say is, in my humble opinion, dishonest. and what about your dear leader "pakeed's" claim that he's some biblical prophetic fulfillment? nu? everyone who keeps torah believes they are keeping it correctly. hard to believe that, in light of those un-orthodox (putting it mildly) theological points, your understanding of judaism/christianity/whatever is anything but flawed. i guess if you got some pretty good kool aid, it all makes a lot more sense.
49. Who is a bigger enemy. One who steals souls or
Josh   (02.15.10)
...one who steal the life of the body? Just a question.... Possibly the Rabbi should read Torah. G-d repays his enemies to their face in THIS lifetime. Want to start talking about the afterlife and hell, go find another place to live, Israel vomits out pagans and perverters (intentional false interpreters) of Torah. Devarim 13 perversion of the path, read it. May our enemies have curses on them and we find our way with Torah and G-d to remove ours lest G-d promote a vile nation over us as promised for this fallen nation.
50. NO, MIKE. I AM REFERRING TO HELL: GEHINOM, NOT GEHONIM.
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (02.15.10)
WHAT IS SO COMPLICATED?
51. 42 - more on changing jesus' words
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.15.10)
isn't history full of examples where people tried to change what moses, jesus, the bible, etc said to fit their own wishes? whoever does that is doomed to endure as long they have. arguing one's interpretation of the bible is normal, but it is not normal to put words in the mouth of a historical figure, omitting other words, while offering no historical proof. at very best, that is simply flawed. you are free to do whatever you want, but your personal version of 'truth' only applies to those who have accepted your flawed assumptions. you can judge others on that basis, but your judgments are meaningless.
52. to #47 wrong he is ex catholic
ghostq   (02.15.10)
baptists don't believe in icons.
53. 50 - so where exactly is this 'gehinom'?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.15.10)
who goes there and where do all the others go who do not end up there. just asking so we can set the record straight.
54. to #53 in Jerusalem duh
ghostq   (02.15.10)
really the word is taken from Geybenyinom or vally of hinom after the Philistins death babies sacrifing they use to burn the babies(also the first born male) to the pagan god aka the Mulech, because it is in vally and there was eco than the Philistins use to cover the babies cry with huge drum roll but the Isralits put an end to this foul ritual from there the name Ghinom is taken luckily god made sure those foul people will disapeare for good. see god take care of his people.
55. same people ?????
ali babashvilli ,   london   (02.15.10)
why ashkenazi caredim kiss his a**s ????
56. the important point is...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (02.15.10)
now that he has rabbi ovadia yosef's permission, let's send ahmadinejad on his way!
57. Pharisee rabbi never was Jzeus, much less "modified"
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58. 52 , ghostq , again your IGNORANCE
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.15.10)
he was , and still is , a baptist minister . But now under the disguise of a Jewish mask .
59. 54 - see my #43
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.15.10)
that was what i was joking about.
60. 57 - why hide pakeed? (we know it's you)
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.16.10)
we're talking about your modified 'ribi yehoshua' you created from the fantasies of your mind. too bad you have no textual/historical/factual evidence to back up your claims (not backing up your claims is becoming your meme).
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