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UK: Passport defrauding a very serious issue
Roni Sofer
Published: 17.02.10, 23:25
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1. UK has lost its way
Adam ,   London   (02.17.10)
UK has forgotten what their secret service did in the Wars and cold war - Israel is at war and this "public outrage" is to satisfy public opinion - this left wing joke of a government has ruined this country and everyone in Britain forgets that Hamas is no friend of the the West and the world will be a safer place because of the actions of this group of "assassins".
2. what evidence is there that israel did it?
david ,   new york   (02.17.10)
first show some evidence, then ask your questions. otherwise, go ask dubai why they let terrorists use their territory to funnel arms from iran to terrorists.
3. All these Western nations are trying to protect terrorists!!
avraham ,   nyc   (02.17.10)
4. CANADAIN PASPORTS DONT PASS ANYMORE ?
ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (02.17.10)
IF I WOULD HAVE MY OWN SECRET SERVICE ! I WOULD USE MY ENEMIES PASSPORTS ! this is the best way to enter ... this is the best way to assassin *** ANYWAY DID HAMAS ANNOUNCE ITS REVANGE, YNET ? I DIDNT MEET ANY NEWS !
5. Scape-Goats & Circumstantial Evidence
Roland Seener ,   London England   (02.17.10)
6. Arrest warrent for nathenyahu
Mike ,   UK   (02.17.10)
You people don`t realise how serious this could become. The cheif of dubai police, last night on C4 news, said, if we find a connection with mossad, we will issue an arrest warrent for Nathanyhu, becuase he would have known about it and sanctioned it. you already have arrest warrents in England.
7. What a successful Mossad Op: Live Broadcasted Killing
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (02.17.10)
You may think Mossad was successful in lates killing operation but if it was only 30 years ago without such survellience systems So Mossad could not adapt itself to current day technologic factors, therefore it was not a sucess but a terrible failure, all operatives were known now worldwide they cannot even step out of their home in Israel, not to mention they will be immediately arrested even years later abroad in any country. Is this operation headed by Lieberman? By the way, Dubai Emirate is accomplice in killings as they allow Zionist freely enter to Arabic Muslim domains
8. re#3 Avraham
Californication ,   City of Angels, USA   (02.17.10)
Did you complain when these Western nations had diplomatic contacts with your famous Jewish terrorists Begin and Shamir? Were they not responsible for British deaths and the assasination of UN official? Don't be such a hypocritical bigot.
9. Dubai killing
Norway   (02.17.10)
Whoever did this, have given an impressive contribution to justice in this world!
10. they had also forged plausible deniability in 1987
observer   (02.17.10)
11. This keeps getting better.
papajay   (02.17.10)
cant wait for what tomorrow's news will bring. Nathenyahu blundered once before when Mossad tried to kill hammas head in Jordan. he looks very stupid then, and this seems to be heading in the same direction. Priceless!!!
12. This could be turned into movie similar
Ali ,   KSA   (02.17.10)
to Ocean 11 and Ocean 12. So funny :), anyway, was it worth the effort? was he a big fish?
13. To Tayfun from Turkey #7
Yosi   (02.17.10)
Well maybe Mossad should`t havet handed over Apo to you, then you would`t have fooled yourself as if you have caught him :)....do you think those assasins care about being facial IDed after they managed to kill Hamas leader, a facial plastic surgent would be more than enough to take care of the IDs..since you live in Turkey you like conspiracy theories :)
14. TYPHOON THE BABOON BUFFOON turks are experts at fiction
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (02.17.10)
of Jews and Israeli committing atrocities. To remove guilt from their own atrocities turks have to find others to shift blame from themselves and being a settler in occupied Constantinople you do not have the right to comment on any topic
15. my, my, my
(02.17.10)
i never saw so many european countries investigating the arab terrorists that bomb their railroads, enter their countries with fake passports, bomb their airlines, bomb their civilian centers and undergrounds and airports. all this for a terrorist killer that everyone is happy to get rid of???? give me a break! when jews are killed, as usual, europe diesn't investigate. when arabs are, europe jumps at the occasion to point a finger at israel boys, it could have been any number of organizations that did this. investigate that rather than point fingers at only one country. the palestinian authority also has and knoWs the indentity of foreigners residing in israel with a FOREIGN PASSPORT. THE PA COULD HAVE DONE THE KILLING ITSELF SINCE THEY ABHOR ANYONE HELPING HAMAS AND THIS TERRORIST SURE HELPED HAMAS.
16. Nothing proven beyond all reasonable doubt
Alan ,   SA   (02.17.10)
In UK there were Dozens and Dozens of Terrorists(iwhen they do terror in UK, theyre TERRORISTS)- who all believe were guilty as hell, who were released by Courts or not prosecuted because cases not proven beyond reasonable doubt.or unreliable evidence . In Israels position,a Senior Palestinian Official/Senior Hamas Commander is rubbed out in Dubai .(UK never calls any terrorist in Israel" a terrorist ") There is no evidence of whodunnit! . Only a scanned number of Passport last pages. There are no suspects.There are no original documents. ONLY 2 members of Hamas extradited from Jordan whence they fled from Dubai....so what if they were videoed talking to the Oceans 11.It doesnt mean the 11 were Israelis no matter what the 2 say. The UK Border &Immigration Service has plenty Pal Sympathisers who could have helped get those passports over past times.So what if 6 live in Israel .There is much corruption in Passport Depts all over the world and UK is no exception. Let UK investigate MIKES BAR duo first and then we can talk .
17. Mahmoud assassination
Mavis Stucci ,   Australia   (02.18.10)
This reads like a blockbuster crime novel. Hamas has political competition in Palestinian circles and both parties have a common enemy/blame-post so what a great way to remove a local stumbling block and at the same time direct suspicion at Israel (etc). Let's just ignore the two Palestinians caught by Jordan and passport photo issues and the fact that Mossad/CIA/MI6/et al are liberally documented re wet ops procedures in a plethora of books and movies, and watch to see whether truth prevails or whether this becomes a serious international incident.
18. Shows how the best security can be skirted...
galut ,   Selah   (02.18.10)
who can do this ...anyone with a little knowledge of the passport system ... a computer and photoshop.... could be ..a illicit bussines ... a terroist org... a government.... Mabhouh...was involved in shady arms trading.... there is factions within hamas that are in a power strugle so there is a whole range of possibilities....including Iran... I don't think mossad would be sloppy in staging the hit in front of cameras ... but if you want mossad to be implicated then cameras are OK ....this whole thing smells like a setup to implicate mossad....and become an excuse to retaliate against ISRAEL ...
19. Will they summon the Syrian ambassador too
mike ,   oxford, uk   (02.18.10)
Mahmoud al-Mabhouh has lived in Damascus as a guest of the Syrian regime for 20 years.
20. UK Passports
Michael ,   London UK   (02.18.10)
Its ironic that the UK is showing more support and respect to its Jewish passport holders in Israel than Israel is to its new Jewish citizens- If Israel really did carry out this operation then UK Jews are better off staying in the UK
21. Those who suspect the Mossad prove
Vardina   (02.18.10)
their own stupidity. The Mossad would never implicate Israeli innocent citizens by using their names in forged passports. It is more likely that Muslims did it, trying to implicate Israelis. This is so obvious that only stupid European governments could swollow such a primitive bait because they want to believe Israel did it. I don't really think that they are that stupid. They simply kiss the ass of cheap oil suppliers.
22. You would think they killed mother Teresa... for god's sake.
Justice has made   (02.18.10)
No matter who killed him, our planet is much safer and more peaceful than before. The EU is a total hypocrite.
23. Alan SA. You are so well connected.
Rotem ,   Tel Aviv   (02.18.10)
Hi Alan, the Mikes Bar attack ended with arrests in the UK AND the terrorists killing himself and the other washing up on the shore dead. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-73796010.html So you said in your post, when they done something about that that you could then talk, OK, you seem pretty well connected with all your inside info and connections, go back and talk to whoever you said you can talk to now. Oh wait, do you mean, talk on another blog? If you think there are plenty of Pal supporters in the passport and home office, sure, but thats nothing compared to the daddy of the Palis the last few months, your countryman Goldstone, tell him to relax. Will he make another report on this too? Here, can you get me a British passport too, sounds easy from what you say. But you probably miss the point that any county would probably react if its passports were floating around at crime scenes, think of all the money used to implement biometric passports and now they have been hacked. not 1 but 6 in an 'in yer face international affair'.
24. #8 City of Angels? I bet you mean Irvine...
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (02.18.10)
Makes much more sense that you're from that terrorist cesspool over there. Anyway, there is no bigotry in Avraham's statement. Begin and Shamir were no terrorists, they simply fought for Israel's independence, the only country we can call ours, and resisted the British Mandate who had no business occupying our land. Unlike those Palestinian terrorists like Mabhouh that you so sympathize with, they never targeted any unarmed British civilians, and most certainly did not engineer suicide bombings in London. So in summary, your comparison sucks. Why don't you just admit it instead - you're an Israel-hater looking to vent your poison.
25. #6 You really want to climb up that tree?
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (02.18.10)
Arresting a Prime Minister? Your country would be in a very awkward position to pursue this, and the fallout would be embarrassing. Better not climb such a tall tree.
26. faked IDs
Mohammad ,   Belfast   (02.18.10)
If this was done by any other country and especially an Arab country, the whoe world will be outrgaed and the Security Council will meet, sanctions will be applied and diplomatic relations will be affected. Faking passports is a violation of international law irrespective of the person being murdered. Israel with its policy is heading towards the South Africa situation in the past. This will not last forever. Well done to Dubai by making the verdic to the public. I feel sorry for these names mentioned as this will put their life in danger from now on. They are going to be victims themselves. The Emarites from now on should ask westerners to apply for visa before they are allowed enry.
27. Reminds me of Casablanca
Len ,   Florida, USA   (02.18.10)
I am shocked that there is gambling going on here. Seems like Dubai was in on it---I thinks they were taking pictures when it was happening.
28. Hey Mohammad #26, guess what!
Jake   (02.18.10)
You ain't got no proof this was Israel, not a single solitary iota SHRED of evidence. So you and the Dubai police can stop patting yourselves on the back. Heck, the Dubai police may well have been in on it.
29. Passports for use...
oxo ,   USA   (02.18.10)
If any ANTI Islamo-fascist organization wants passports to help fight the worldwide scourge of terrorism, simply put the word out and there will be thousands of people who will "lose" their passports if it helps this noble cause.
30. To the fool from LA #8
Yaron ,   USA   (02.18.10)
You little lesson in moral equivalency is a bit abnoxious....don't you think? BOTTOM LINE GRANOLA BAR.....terrorist scum tend not to die of old age. Shamir and Begin were Israeli heroes compared to the bunch of floundering"leaders" we have in the White House today....but then again I am most certain that you are a contributor to Obamination.
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