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Erdogan: Heritage sites will never be Jewish
Roee Nahmias
Published: 07.03.10, 13:50
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31. #7 Eitan - Know your audience
Umm El Kul Naqba   (03.07.10)
Eitan, You can write that way to a rational Israeli or Jewish audience who understand sarcasm. But in the Arab/Moslem mindset, if the FACTs controvert what they believe, then the FACTs must be wrong. If make absolutely no difference that there are eye witnesses, photos, videos, etc. The "Ahmadinejads" of the world deny the Holocaust and according to YNET's article yesterday he states that "9/11 was fabricated". Irrational people will take your writing at face value and not even see the sarcasm
32. rachel Ismael mother?That's new...
Anna maria Sedda ,   Rome-Italy   (03.07.10)
Rachel was mother of a Jew,not a muslim... You are son of Agar the slave,Mister.....
33. this is the man who wants to negotiate with Syria for us
zionist forever   (03.07.10)
Erdogan says he wants to broker talks between Israel & Syria but not only is he in bed with Iran but he is now pushing the traditional propoganda. When are the muslims going to stop saying that jewish sites belong to the muslims? Cave of the Patriarches is holy to both jews & christians as well as muslims because it is the site where Abraham was buried and he is considered the funder of all three religions. Rachels Tomb is a jewish ONLY site. Rachel was the wife of Jacob who was decnded from Issac not Ishmael. She was also the mother of the children who founded the 12 tribes of Israel. No muslim connection... they don't even consider Jacob or Rachel to be prophets. Temple Mount the site of the jewish Temple. Muslims say its their third holiest site despite the fact they pray with their backs to Jerusalem and its not mentioned once in the Koran. The Kotel - muslims also say thats holy to them because Mohammed tied up his horse there. Josephs Tomb - again Joseph had no religious connection to the muslims but his tomb they say is a muslim holy site. They claim that Israel itself belongs to the muslims. The likes of Al Quaida believe that the entire world belongs to the muslims. I am amazed nobody has claimed that the universe isn't all a muslim caliphite. There seems to be no place for jews in this world. First it was the Egyptians, then the christians, in modern times it was the Nazis now its the muslims. There seems to be no place in this world for jews and the idea jews might have holy places of their own is like blasphemy.
34. Yea, right, & the Turks never murdered 1.5 million Armenians
Rafael ,   Yerushalayim Israel   (03.07.10)
Yea, right, and the Turks never murdered 1.5 million Armenians.
35. To Nour
Atheist Turk ,   Germany   (03.07.10)
Hello Nour. Thank you for your friendly talkbak. Now to the points you have mentioned. With the first part you are absolutely right. I am a minority in Turkey. Most Turks are the way you described. I just wanted to say beware of false friends. Those who went out to demonstrate against "The Zionist Entity" are silent in the case of Darfur. According to the United Nations (I know they are a joke), about half a million people were killed in Darfur. And those who kill and get killed are Muslims. Where is the Muslim world? Where are my religious Turks? Those who play the innocent? Why did "your" hero Erdogan never protest against it? Instead he invited, embraced and kissed Al-Bashar. Claiming Muslim could never committ mass-murder. False friends can cause damage. Anyway. I do not want to teach you moral. I am definitely the last person on earth to do so. But I cannot stand the hypocrisy in the Muslim world. Now to something nice. Thanks for visiting my country. I love the Bosphorus in Karaköy. Lovely place. Especially during the week-ends its packed with tourists enjoying the handicrafts exhibitions. Did you ever check it out? Kindest regards
36. Please stop buying turkish clothing
Gill ,   Montreal canada   (03.07.10)
Please please stop support to any export from turkey. I am a clothing manufacturer making suits in turkey and just cancelled 350000$ order. Living it to china.
37. Anyone who vacations there should stay there, freaks all.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (03.07.10)
38. He can say whatever he likes
Ilana   (03.07.10)
It still will not change the truth. He can try, and he can threaten and scream and insult, we have faced worse. After 2000 years we still believe in the same things. Evil leaders come and go but we are here to stay.
39. Ahmadinejad and Hitler could not have said it better
Meir ,   USA   (03.07.10)
It has always been. I am so glad that the current Israeli government is finaly getting this fact out into the surface. Muslims do not apreciate peace or mutual respect at least toward Jews. If "secular" turkey does not recognize our Jewih heritage, we must that we must never recognize Palestinians as a people and continue to build up our state. Thank God Muslims are the way they are.
40. muslime sites? i guess mecca
Barney ,   USA   (03.07.10)
is the birthplace of Judaism and holy to Judaism. now-say it over and over and over. there. doesn't it sound like the truth?
41. #35
Nour ,   Palestine   (03.07.10)
Always a pleasure to hear from Turks whatever their beliefs or where they stand on the political spectrum. "Anyway. I do not want to teach you moral. I am definitely the last person on earth to do so." No worries at all, we're all imperfect. We're humans after all. Nevermind the endless avalanche of "Armenian genocide this and that" on this forum, these people resort to factoids or whatever their mind can imagine to throw back at any Turk who criticizes Israel or Israeli policies. "But I cannot stand the hypocrisy in the Muslim world." Me neither. I'm against religious fundamentalism, being a secular naturalist myself. I'm for women's rights, minority rights, and pro-democracy and equity for all. Btw I'm also against Arabization and the historical tendency for Islam and Arabs to erase everything before them. There's strength to be derived from the cultures of the past and continuity...but this is far beyond comprehension for narrow-minded Islamists who think the world started and ended with Islam or Mohammed. "Thanks for visiting my country. I love the Bosphorus in Karaköy. Lovely place. Especially during the week-ends its packed with tourists enjoying the handicrafts exhibitions. Did you ever check it out?" I think I've been to Karakoy before but never to that exhibition. I will definitely check it out next time. Another darling of mine is Turkish music, I can't get enough! Oh and Turkish food - where do i even start! Istiqlal street has some of the best Eastern delicacies ever to visit my taste buds :) My next mission is to explore other parts of Turkey. I'm keen on adventure and historical tourism - any suggestions?
42. Where is Peres???
Ken ,   SF   (03.07.10)
he needs to apologize to Erdogan for Netanyahu causing him anguish.
43. That's it, no more turkey on Thanksgiving
des ,   united States   (03.07.10)
44. Diversion
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (03.07.10)
Once gain the Jews have become a convenient diversion for genocidal intents. Erdogan continues his onslaught while he massacres Kurdish civilians and tries to get the world to forget the last Turk genocide - against the Armenians
45. erdgoan again
alexi   (03.07.10)
The army better remove erdgoan or he will remove them. He is detached from reality and is more extreme than the extremists except that he wears a suit and combs his hair. He distorts, exaggerates, denies. Israel was there before turkey existed and palestine never existed as a country. In fact turkey occupied israel for years.Erdogan lies about armenians, about kurds, about greeks , about europeans, and about israelis.Basburg had better take action because erdogan primarily represents his arabic wife's interests, not Turkey's. And as far as a box of tomatoes is concerned, he should ask egypt to allow it through. Israel is under no obligation to trade with gazans who want to destroy it. No, they don't have to nor want to. UN and Europeans pressure israel because they are afraid of arab and moslem terror. Thye are all like olmert, gutless wimps.
46. To Nour
DP ,   India   (03.07.10)
Jewish presence has been there for ages, much before the advent of islam, so how can you lay claim to these heritage sites??? dont you guys believe in history
47. The real Turkey
Bob ,   Mechburg USA   (03.07.10)
This is the real Turkey. Not some make-believe "friend' of Israel. Now that it suits Turkey they're all Muslim. They are obviously trying to get some of those Western concessions being handed out by that idiot in the Presidency.
48. Arab and Muslim world in denial about historical facts
David ,   Boston, USA   (03.07.10)
Things are going to go very badly for the Arab/Muslim world. The more they deny history, the more they will suffer. Muslim world has been stealing other religions holy sites for centuries now. its time to end this theft. We need to take PA to Hague for crime against humanity for desecrating temple Mount and Josephs tomb. Respect others or learn to live with failure. Jews are VERY VERY VERY patient. Israel was there first and will be there long after the Arab world colapses like a house of cards.
49. In case anyone was WONDERING Turkey is NOT mediating party
jae ,   lynn usa   (03.07.10)
for peace. revisionism (rachels tomb) & Islam go hand in hand.
50. Fight
anton ,   istanbul turkey   (03.07.10)
its turned into a fight between turkey and israel and ıts gonna continues untill one side is realize unnecessray anımosıty ıs created ıts already too late if u ask me cause as a former supporter of ısrael I am all agaınst ısrael because of recent comments ı see from ısraelıs. Playıng armenıan card or boycottıng any turkısh products ısnt gonna help you you have made your move in genocide bill supprtıng ıt now ıts our turn...
51. #7 - Tell it brother!!! This is the honest truth.
AJ ,   Washington, DC   (03.07.10)
52. Turkey = Genocide....the truth will set you free.
AJ ,   Washington DC   (03.07.10)
53. Rachel and Abraham lived during a blessed time-no Islam
Sharona ,   Jerusalem Israel   (03.07.10)
Erdogan is an ignorant maniac like Arafat was. Neither place was ever Muslim-they were stolen by Muslims. These sites are thousands of years old. Islam never existed till 600C.E or so. If GAza is an open air prison it deserves to be. All terrorists should be dead or in prison.
54. Hey Erdogan you have just said it YOU FOOL!
James ,   ISRAEL   (03.07.10)
You called itby its proper name. i.e Rachel's Tomb and Our Patriachs. Wake up ERDOGAN you are no longer living in the Ottoman era. In case you have forgotten. Now back into your miserable country not ACCEPTED INTO THE EU. Have you wondered why you bofoon?
55. muslim sites?NADA......
secular beast   (03.07.10)
even the KAABA in MECCA was not a muslim site,it belonged to the Meccans pagans and was surrounded with 360 idols,the largest was AKBAR,hint,the muslims say allah wa akbar,{WA} means"AND" in english,,,so muslims say allah {and}AKBAR,,,AKBAR represented the moon god to the pagans,,another HINT,,why muslims has a CRESCENT on top of their mosques,,,muhammad allowed the pagans to keep their sympols,like akbar plus the moon crescent and did not fight them,coz all pagans were his relatives but he killed most of the jews of al-jazeerah,,the question why?i know,its a long story...
56. Nour dreaming of the good old days of Turkey
James ,   ISRAEL   (03.07.10)
Get to the point the atheist Turk in Germany is spot on. Erdogan is in great trouble at home with the population and the military Wrong about the religious turks. In the majority the are secular. The overly religious ones yo will only find up in the mountain I CALL THE KOYLULER. Your assessment of them trying to defend Palis is merely to gain brownie points from the Arab League to amass the DOSH he needs.Plus by becoming more of a fundementalist he is soon going to be dissmissed from his post INSHALLAH. He almost sounds like Medinejad the (Jew).
57. al aqsa mosque and Abraham
Anna Maria Sedda ,   Rome-Italy   (03.07.10)
..and just to finish,Abraham send Ismael away from the land of Israel,from himself and from his family and Ismael has NO heritage with Abraham faith,so hands out to alla muslims from jewish heritage in Temple Mount,Mr...NOW!
58. Lie and more lies these are Jewish Site and always will be!
Deb ,   Akko   (03.07.10)
59. Hello Nour
Atheist Turk ,   Germany   (03.07.10)
I recommend going to the Aegean part of Turkey. Izmir, Kusadasi, Bodrum and Marmaris are fantastic destinations. Perfect for relaxing. A trip to Peri Bacalari in Central-Anatolia is also very interesting. You will see a lot of Turkish culture and easy people who have nothing to offer, other than there hospitality. The Black Sea area is also nice. Beautiful green valleys with little lakes. For example, Rize (by the way! Erdogan is from there). It is a bit far away and off the normal tourist routes, but it is unspoiled. Regards
60. E,R,D,O,G,A,N,
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (03.07.10)
E.R.D.O.G.A.N. =Egotistical .Rabid. Dog. Obnoxious.Grotesque.Anal.Nutcase.
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