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Religious: We are more moral
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Published: 09.03.10, 15:17
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1. what a joke,morals what morals
Avi ,   Israel   (03.09.10)
More moral? Gee so lets see so far that includes Advanced riot techniques Child abuse Attacking women on buses Denying women their rights Not serving in the army 75% not working living off our taxes Occupying another nation Denying others their basic human rights Forcing their so called religious life style on others In the closet rabis abusing their students. there is an enless list of their so called morality, Thanks but i think an alley cat on heat has more morals then the " praise the lord crowd" thankyou very much.
2. between pedoplilia and chauvanism
(03.09.10)
very moral, the sexual abuse in religious communities, the closed mindedness, the racial discrimination among sects, the chauvanism and the intolerance of anything in any way different. very very moral
3. They are more intolerant and hypocritical
Elly ,   Vienna, Austria   (03.09.10)
The religious right, whether Jewish, Christian or Moslem, are more intolerant and hypocritical.
4. Religious think they are more moral
roxie ,   K.HaimIsrael   (03.09.10)
Oh yeah some of, these are the same moral people who who riot and burn trash cans whent he police want to investigate child abuse in their neighborhoods, who riot when there is a suspicious death in the neighborhood and the police need an autopsy,the same peole who beat a women on the bus for refusing to sit at the back of a bus...more moral than the rest of us non religious I doubt it!
5. Guess what !!! Hamas members think the same too
Sam ,   ME   (03.09.10)
How ironic!!! loool Idiocy has no limits.
6. I wonder what the non religious sector
Ilana   (03.09.10)
has to say. I would love to guess...
7. and that is the problem
Lisa   (03.09.10)
and THAT is the problem: anybody who thinks he or she is better than all the 'other' people has a major flaw. What exactly makes those people better? By what standards? They might be good religious people- but BETTER? And as for moral: he who throws the first stone? Another intelligent and valuable poll that will do much to sow more discord, congratulations.
8. #1
(03.09.10)
The studty says religious nationalists...tax paying people who send their sons to combat units...
9. no 5 - & the catholic church
oferdesade ,   israel   (03.09.10)
any time one bunch of bigots tells another: don't think, i'll do your thinking for you, someone is in trouble
10. TO# 5 Thanks Sam
Salma ,   Palestine   (03.09.10)
same as what I wanted to say
11. so is the taliban
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (03.09.10)
but when your morality results in a self-righteousness, arrogance, and superiority complex that make you believe you are therefore mandated to determine how others should live, your morality is rubbish. morality with humility is respectable. condescending moralizing is contemptible.
12. Religious Public; NOT HAREDI!
Yosef ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.09.10)
You fools! **The Religious public does more army, than the secular public ** Less violence in schools ** Higher reading levels ** Less murder, rap and theft; **More respect for women; hey we dont expect our women to prance around like whores **More involvment in national causes(everything from helping refugees from the North to oppsing expulsion of Jews) In short we are a better society becuase our morality comes from a higher authority
13. Thats a joke.The religious camp are
Eric..... ,   Israel...   (03.09.10)
anti-black,anti-christian and anti-semites.You have those lunatics running around the westbank ,causeing havoc.There is no law but there law,religious law.
14. Guess What
Haiim ,   Eilat, Israel   (03.09.10)
A poll of secular Israelis would have very different conclusions. Do I have to recall the observant Jew who told me how to cheat on my US and Israeli taxes. The rabbi who tutors dozens of students for cash only. The cars park illegally in towns like Bnei Brak. The calling of secular Jews gentiles. The chauvinist attitude towards women. The inability to treat other Israelis with respect. The disrespect for orders from the military. The disrespect for non Ashkenazi students. I think we all have to learn how to be better people. But when a huge majority of one group thinks it is morally superior, then we have a huge problem--particularly when many of us have witnessed just the opposite.
15. Thanks for goo laugh i really need it today
Ezra ,   London   (03.09.10)
16. #12 Higher reading levels from one book :-)
Sam ,   ME   (03.09.10)
17. Grade level of most talkbackers?
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.09.10)
I've never seen such idiotic talkbacks on this site. Usually they are just hateful, or arrogant know-it-alls, but it's amazing how much people think they know about a sector of the population they have zero contact with, and whose only source of information is a secular press. Comparing Haredim or Jewish Religious Nationalists to Taliban or pedo Priests shows the Matrix-like mentality coming through. Apparently people who are free of Religious thought actually believe they are free-thinkers, that is the furthest thing from the truth. In fact they are so broad minded, their brains fell out.
18. One man's meat
Sagi   (03.09.10)
is another man's poison. I happen to believe that the Haredim are the most immoral people in the world, simply because by and large they live off other folks toil and earnings. This is called pimping and poncing. Whereas they probably believe me to be grossly immoral because I do not believe in "God" and regard the Torah as a record of our history rather than a strict code of conduct to be adhered to without question. Who is right and who is moral ?
19. #17
Sam ,   Me   (03.09.10)
"but it's amazing how much people think they know about a sector of the population they have zero contact with, and whose only source of information is a secular press" ! How many Alqida or Taliban members do you know :-)
20. #17 but i agree genarliztions are not fair
Sam ,   ME   (03.09.10)
and wrong.
21. JESUSALEN
cristian ,   arg   (03.10.10)
walk with me my little child to the forest of denial speak with me my only mind walk with me until the time make the forest turn to wine you take your legend for a fall you saw the product why cant you see that you are my child why dont you know that you are my mind tell everyone in the world that I AM you take this promise to the end of you walk with me my little friend! take this promise to the end speak with me my only mind walk with me until the end make the forest turn to sand you take the legend for a fall you saw the product why cant you see that you are my child why dont you know that you are my mind tell everyone in the world that I AM you take this promise to the end of you take this promise for a ride you saw the forest now come inside you took the legend for its full you saw the product of it all no televisions in the air no circumcisions on the chair you made the weapons for us all just look at us now! why cant you see that you are my child why dont you know that you are my mind tell everyone in the world that I AM you take this promise to the end of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22. All people are to be judged not on their group
Universalist Zionist   (03.10.10)
but by themselves. Not all of group A are good and perfect and group B are immoral psychos. We must rise out of the sandbox toddler mentality and judge people as every person for themselves. At least this is my personal philosophy.
23. Haha - only more moral because no one talks about it
William ,   Israel   (03.10.10)
People believed that the US was more moral in the 1950s also until stories began to emerged in the 1980s from traumatized people. Arabs countries have tons of morality problems but speaking about them is not only forbidden, it could risk death and humility of the family. People once believed that Catholic priests were the most moral....need I say more? Morality can never be based on what was NOT said.
24. #1
marko ,   tel aviv   (03.09.10)
well said my same sentiments
25. religious morals
STANLEY MILNER ,   tel aviv   (03.10.10)
thanks it's good to start the day with a laugh ,it helps me get through the day
26. To AVI and other haters
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.10.10)
We are talking here MOSTLY about the NATIONAL religious , the Kippoth sruggoth . They serve in the army , work and PAY taxes . They are NOT the people who riot , and so on . Your blind HATRED towards everything religious is again shown here .
27. Some surprise?
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (03.10.10)
It’s no big surprise that they think themselves more moral. The survey would have meaning if all sectors were questioned not just the religious. Of course they believe they are good or they would have abandoned their religiosity. This survey is in fact meaningless.
28. Yosef , 12 , the "non" fool ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.10.10)
Can you give the statistics about your affirmations ? No , you women don't "prance" around as whores ? You must have much experience with whores to know how they walk around . Your higher Authority ? what is this ? Our Morality comes from our higher VALUES , nobody , and certainly not an inexisting so called "authority" has to compel us to behave correctly .
29. Ya'al know that there are glatt kosher shelters for...
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (03.10.10)
...battered women? You can see collection boxes for them in many secular neighborhoods.
30. flawed
m ,   raanana   (03.10.10)
the survey is flawed, or information is missing from the article. how many people were interviewed? what is their background (chozrim or ffb?)? where do they live now? how were they educated? i am national-religious, live in a mixed secular-religious community, do not think myself better than anyone else and i was not surveyed, nor was anyone else that i know.
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