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Shas MK: Naked exhibition is prostitution
Amnon Meranda
Published: 11.03.10, 07:34
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1. There are too many religious leaders with bad hearts.
noa ,   israel   (03.11.10)
2. Man Can Be An Angel....
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.11.10)
or he can be a beast. The difference is how he behaves. Although I do not know how angels look (except for Ezekiel's description), we do know that animals don't wear clothing. Public display of nakedness is for animals only and runs contrary to what the holy Jewish people stand for.
3. bad hearts
tzviah ,   jerusalem   (03.11.10)
To #1. you are wrong. There are too many bad hearts that would like to control the religious leaders.
4. MK Nissim Zeev the Knesset Clown
Avi ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
He also says gay people are the cause of earth Quakes however he was some what silent when 7 shas MKs were jailed for theft, corruption and preventing justice. So i say if Nissim Zeev objects then this is a good enough reason to allow the event to take place !
5. Crazy
J ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
Even without Nissim Zeev's opinion, I do not like this idea. We are a Jewish State and we should have Jewish values. We don't have to copy everything other countries do. Having hundreds or thousands of people being photographed nude together is crazy!
6. please safe us that cheap "artistic" pornography
israeli ,   israel   (03.11.10)
7. Religion vs Reality
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (03.11.10)
To think we so afraid of our bodies, these beautiful frames that God made for us. Nakedness is the farthest thing from dirty. Celebrating God's work by standing together as Jews and as Israeli's only says to God and the world that we our proud of the gifts we have received. To be sure, this kind of expression is not for everyone, but it is NOT an affront to Israel, or God or Judaism. If you don't agree, don't participate. But don't inflict your moral proclivities on others. Be a good Jew and respect the beliefs of other good Jews. You don't have to agree, or even understand. We feel the same about your beliefs, but the difference is we show respect for yours. I am a good Jew, a proud Israeli, and respectful of others. I support the rights of Jews to practice Judaism in the many wonderful ways the religion should be practiced. Respecting your neighbors right to live, pray and believe is a basic tenet for this country to survive. Stretch your mind for a second, and see the beauty of diversity. You will do yourself, your religion and this country a great service.
8. Prostitution is payment for sexual activity
Gracey ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
There's no sexual activity going on here - and no payment. Those sick religious losers are sexually depraived and associate anything with a naked body to something sexually disgusting. We are all born naked, not dressed like penguins - maybe they should just keep quiet in future instead of bringing unwanted and negative attention to themselves.
9. #2 Hello Reuven we are secular
Avi ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
hate to break it to you but what i do with my body is my choice and not yours. I do not live by your religious rules and as a non beliver we will make our own choices thank you very much. Oh and for the record my dogs have a complete wardrobe of designer wear !
10. Great idea!
Olah   (03.11.10)
I think it is a step forward. I myself would be too shy to participate in this, but to bring this exibition to Israel is a great idea....not just for tourism but to show the world that we are an open and modern democratic country. These people would are against it are pulling us back all the time....to the dark ages. At the end of the day, these photos are NO BIG DEAl. It's just a bunch of naked people. Get over it.
11. Animals?
Takan ,   Elat   (03.11.10)
Enough with this religious hypocrisy. Religious Jews do not have to participate to such an event but to ban it altogether is plain wrong and hypocrite. Why should seculars live under religious rules? Last time I checked, Israel is a free country, not a theocracy. Does SHAS believe that to fit in the Middle East, we should behave like Iran, Saudi Arabia or Hamas? Nakedness is the most natural thing in the world and religious zealots deny the beauty of the human body. Adam and Eve were naked in Paradise until they sinned and felt shame from their bareness. Well not everybody is ashamed and those who feel shame from nudity are sinners. I will immediately write an email to Tunick to advise him to come to Liberal Elat, far from all the bigots mentioned in this story. Such closed-mindedness and arrogance makes you wonder where those politicians are trying to stir Israel to.
12. what abt gay parade happened in Israel?
kuhl_blitz ,   doha   (03.11.10)
I believe in equal rights and lifestyle of gay people. But, i despise the idea that it was paraded at the holy city. Where were the religious people when the desecration was taking place. Compared to that, this one is OK. But still, i agree with this strong man for voicing against nude art
13. no difference
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (03.11.10)
How is this any different then the recent commerical shown in Canada implying sex and size matters to draw tourists to Israel? Or the commercial last year with the kids playing soccer on the beach with the woman showering? Or the Maxim magazine photo shoots? I am not condoning the naked photo shoot but on the other hand I don't see many Israeli's participating in it anyways.
14. #8 getting nude is sexual activity for free, but
observer   (03.11.10)
they can charge you.
15. I am of the opinion
Sagi   (03.11.10)
that mass naked photographs are most ridiculous, convey no message and are completely pointless and stupid and certainly not artistic. However, if that is what people want to do, and it is not against the law and does not cause public disturbance, then so be it. It has nothing to do with "deceit", "bestiality" or "prostitution" as the MK stated. In fact this particular MK is prone to using words and phrases which make him sound very stupid and even uncouth, but then again these are obviously requirements for the job, especially when it comes to Shas.
16. Naked Photography in Israel
Lenise ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
I recall in history other mass photographs of Jewish people naked - in the concentration camps of europe, dead and alive, also at Babi Yar - these people were Gd fearing honourableJews with their nakedness exposed against their wills. There just seems to be something very wrong with Jews/Israelis wanting to expose their nakedness en masse to cameras for publication to the world. Is there some bizarre connection between these two sets of circumstances?
17. SHAS MK
gadot ,   herzlia   (03.11.10)
Shas takes human beings and train them to do little more than an animal can do.
18. Bath Melekh - The Daughter of a King
Norway   (03.11.10)
King David wrote in Psalm 45:14 about the essence of a princess: "Kol Kebudah Bath Melekh Penima" כָּל-כְּבוּדָּה בַת-מֶלֶךְ פְּנִימָה All the honor of a princess lies within. While the outside world emphasises our external appearance, the Torah view is the opposite, and focuses on the internal. Drawing attention to our outside appearance sends a message that we consider our body to be superior to our soul. Our essence is "Penima", within, and our beauty is illuminated from within. King David completes the verse with how a woman, a princess should be dressed: מִמִּשְׁבְּצוֹת זָהָב לְבוּשָׁהּ "Mishbesoth Zahab Lebushah" her clothing is of wrought (beaten) gold. The attire of a woman, a daughter of a King must be regal, compared to the glorious clothing of the Kohanim (Priests). Read more: "Daughters of the King, every one of us" by Rabbanith Ruth Menashe. www.atorahminute.com/ I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for He hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, He hath covered me with the robe of victory, as a bridegroom putteth on a priestly diadem, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. For as the earth bringeth forth her growth, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause victory and glory to spring forth before all the nations (daughters). Isaiah 61:10-11, 60:21-22 A Hebrew - English Bible http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm I (Israel) am a rose of Sharon, a rose of the valleys. As a rose among the thorns (nations), so is My beloved (Israel) among the daughters (nations). Song of Songs 2:1-2 Even though the nations seek to entice Israel to whore after their idols, she remains faithful to God and His Torah. With embroidered garments, she (Israel) will be brought to the King (God), and virgins (nations) in her train who are her companions will be brought to You. Psalm 45:15, Micah 4:1-5, Isaiah 2:1-5, 66:20, Zec. 8:20-23, Jer. 16:19 Say to your brethren, "Ammi," (My people) and to your sisters, "Ruhamah" (Shown love). Hosea 2:3 Meaning, " the children of Judah & Benjamin=Jews, say of your brothers, The Ten Tribes, that they are My People just like you… and likewise say Shown-Love of the women of the Ten Tribes". Thus the Jews have a clear directive to reach out to the returning members of the Ten Tribes and help their brethren to return to their Israelite roots. OUTREACH JUDAISM: Bringing Our Nation Back To The Truth and Beauty Of The Jewish Faith. http://www.outreachjudaism.org/
19. How many crosses can you count in photo? ;-)
Anon   (03.11.10)
20. Whats your problem, Lenise?
eras ,   Jlem, Israel   (03.11.10)
Yes, there were photographs made of naked religious jews during the holocaust, often waiting for their execution. And of course no one asked these victims if they want to be photographed. And now Jews live in their own country and CAN decide if they want to get naked, if they want to be photographed, and surely noone is going to shoot them afterwards. So isn't that something to be happy about? Isn't the freedom of choice, the freedom to decide how you want to live as a Jew the exact reason why this country was founded? Apart from that, I think Spencer Tunick doesn't qualify for the "artist"-category and I think his approach is utmost banal. But hey, others think different. If they want to strip, then so be it...
21. Shas
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (03.11.10)
Why, Shas is the biggest brothel in Israel, full of prostitutes and pimps. Always selling themselves to the highest bidder.
22. Prostitution is selling out your country for
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.11.10)
ministerial seats, money for yeshivas of draft dodgers. Prostitution is avoiding the draft and letting others defend Israel. Prostitution is receiving a child allowance, but never having served in the I.D.F.
23. SPENCER TUNICK IS A SICK MAN!!
elan ,   Netanya, Israel   (03.11.10)
and everybody who supports him has absolutely no self respect nor morality. This mustn't happen in the Holy Land. DON'T LET HIM IN HERE!!!
24. #9 Avi - Oy Poor Avi
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.11.10)
You seem to treat your dogs with more respect than you do yourself. The fact that you call yourself "secular" does not mean you are permitted to be free of basic human decency and dignity. You, too, are a human being - not an animal. You hide behind this idea that if a concept eminates from a "religious" source it is to be rejected and is not applicable to you because you deemed yourself "secular". You are seriously confused. Our Torah is replete with moral and ethical values - honesty, integrity, human rights, decency, respect for one's fellow man, etc. Things which all human beings, by the fact that we are human beings, should come to recognize as elevating us above the baseness of the animal world. But, you seem to prefer the life of an animal, a beast, unrestricted by any moral code, an animal free to succumb to his most primitive desires simply in order to show that "no one can tell me what to do". You are a poor soul without a clew as to what the sacred concept of behaving in the image of G-d refers. 2500 years ago Judaism denounced the "nakedness" of the ancient Greeks and their immorality. You want to bring their primitiveness back to modern man. You are going backwards, Avi. You are a classic Nebech.
25. Naked photogtaphy
Lenise ,   Israel   (03.11.10)
Eras, Jlm My problem - it seems today only the naked bodies are alive but what is happening to the souls within? blunted, blinded, unthinking, at least the "naked" animals wear fur coverings of one kind or another - And have no compulsion to be exhibitionists =read the comments of 19 - The true beauty is inward - not external. Besides Israel was created so we could live in our own land, according to our own culture and customs, among these being modest G-d fearing, a Torah based lifestyle which is the reason Jewish people are Jews - all the way back to sinai where the Jewish people became a nation. Do we always have to copy the worst of the practices of the nations?
26. Just another nude story
Mark ,   Jerusalem   (03.11.10)
Summer in the streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv are like walking amongst a load of naked people and I must say some really look sick. Do other countries complain about this photoraphy. As long as its not next to any holy sites then I don't see whats wrong. If that apple did not get eaten all those years ago we would all be naked right now.
27. To #18
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (03.11.10)
Is that the same King David, who couldn't control his lust for another man's wife and went so far as to have her husband killed?
28. Naked exhibition
Nili   (03.11.10)
I was once in the louvre in Paris and marvelled at the beauty that could be in human form--not bone thin, expressionless fashion models, but round, full figured people with emotions and grace. Sadly this form of art seems to be lost. I object to this type of action in our land because it is another example of people trying to destroy what "Holy Land" stands for. I am not religious--and what this idiot is doing is Not art!
29. @Lenise
era ,   Jlem, Israel   (03.11.10)
What is modesty without choice? Just obedience. To lead a religious lifestyle without having any other options is not an effort. G-d always asked people to make choices out of free will. Chawa hat to make one, Avraham had to, and it goes on throughout the history. You obviously made your choice. Now let other people make theirs...
30. Reuven , who is the TRUE nebech
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.11.10)
For you it's only the "package" that counts . What's inside not important for you . Well sane people can think differently , being nude is no problem for them . Only perverted people think it's perverted to pose nude .
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