News
Child's testimony incriminates soldiers
Anat Shalev
Published: 12.03.10, 09:47
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
70 Talkbacks for this article
31. :: A QUESTION TO ALL POSTERS
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (03.12.10)
As I have stated before the IDF are in the habit of using innocent civilians (Men, women and children of all ages) as Human Shields to hide behind. The usual example I cite is that the IDF confirmed that they used Palestinians as Human Shields on over 1,200 occasions during a 5 year period. Hardly a ‘handful of occasions’ caused by a ‘few bad apples’ as claimed by William and other self-ignorant fools. In fact it is fair to say that the IDF have used more innocent civilians as human shields than the likes of Hamas or any other ‘terrorist group’.. My question is this: Can anyone here name another (ahem) ‘professional’ state army who, like the IDF, has a policy of using innocent civilians as human shields to cower behind? I suspect that the IDF is unique in this highly immoral and yellow-bellied practice.
32. Ann Frank would be impressed, how old was she?
Ken ,   Switzerland   (03.12.10)
33. Child
Cags ,   London   (03.12.10)
Just listen to yourselves, trying to justify the abhorrent actions of some members of the 'most moral army in the world'. You make me sick! BTW #29, your blood pressure must be dangerously high - sit down and take a deep breath, for god's sake.
34. testimony sounds coached would an idf soldier stand only
b movie in pallywood ,   free world   (03.12.10)
a "meter and a half" away from 9 yr old majd if he suspected explosives were in those bags? and "a foreign language i couldnt understand that later i learned was hebrew??!?" give me a break. these children have "memories" of 1948, but dont know three weeks into a war that idf soldiers are bombing them,and oh yeah, the language they speak is hebrew... ridiculous
35. Please ! !
Dave ,   Bs.Aires-Argentina   (03.12.10)
Please ! Give me a break ! ! It´s impossible that a 9 years old child could remember the richness of details of that situation. Nor an adult neither a professional reporter is able to remember a lot of facts, when he / she is under the pressure of a traumatic experience like this. There is a syndrome that the Psycologists call "Self-Protecting-Amnesya" or so, that erase the memory of the individual under such pressure to avoid further psycological damage. Anyone that has suffered a traumathic situation can agree with that. It´s clear that this long, long narrative was faked, to stain the soldiers of the IDF, as is the common place of all the people that hates the Jews and the State of Israel, like the post # 12 Resistor, an venomous Anti-Jew person. Please, people of Israel, wake up ! !
36. To be fair, the UN brought this case to the IDF prosecutor
Zvi   (03.12.10)
which was the right thing to do with it. The IDF prosecutor investigated the charges, found that they appear to have enough merit to pursue further, and is acting on them. If the charges are true, then the soldiers involved did several things that require prosecution: they disobeyed explicit orders regarding the treatment of civilians, and they used a kid as a human shield. There are definitely situations in which it makes sense to label accusations as Pallywood. But this time, the IDF prosecutor investigated and has indicted the suspects. Let's wait to see how this plays out, shall we? On the other side, the soldiers have been INDICTED, NOT CONVICTED. The prosecutor is charged with putting together a case against them; the soldiers have yet to put forth their own case. You're only seeing one side of the story here. Also, the testimony of children can sometimes be extremely unreliable; there have been cases in which children were convinced that horrible things had happened in secret rooms in a nursery school, rooms that were proven not to exist. Judging by the testimony, there were a lot of witnesses around. The truth will come out.
37. OOPS
Bob ,   Mechburg USA   (03.12.10)
It's called war. Sorry 'bout that! Maybe less rockets from you this year, will not neccessitate this again. Then again...??
38. It is so obvious.
Yehuda ,   Holit,Israel   (03.12.10)
This boy was coached. The available witnesses cannot be relied on since they are biased and/or coached as well since Hamas is calling the shots in that situation. I've seen so many examples of this type of propaganda during the last two intifadas. The same lies and attempts at lies.
39. Well Heck....I couldn't read the anti semetic
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.13.10)
language on the rocket that flew by my head into Israel either. It sure as hell scared the crap out of me when it went off though. Where's my story, and all the little Israeli kids stories, about the rockets visiting their backyards with some foreign writing on them? Just because the Guy on the other side of the wall shooting the rocket isn't close... when he screams die Jewish Scum....does it make it any different when the slap of a bomb blows an innocent Jewish childs arm off. As a matter of fact....getting slapped would have been better...at least I could feed myself. Quit attacking Jews with rockets......then these retaliation adventures won't occur in the first place.
40. #3 - Far more damaging incidents - name one.
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
Are you referring to the fake passport incident which the world has already indicted and hung Israel for despite a total lack of real proof.... or the Goldstone report that was produced on the evidence of Hamas to indict Israel through accusations that, according to Goldstone, are not based on any legal truth and will not stand up in any court of law? Apparently, Robert, you use 5% of factual information presented in your own biased news paper and 95% of your own biased opinion to come to a conclusion. Why waste the Internet bandwidth when you can demonize at home all by yourself?
41. #10 - operative phrase here is "if it's the truth"
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
Let's assume that it is the truth. It's disgusting and the majority of Israelis and IDF soldiers are shamed and pissed off at it. However, Leftists take it one step further by saying this is happening all of the time and not the isolated incident it is. Why is it getting so much press in Israel and attention by the IDF? Because it IS rare and is completely vilified by our culture. I will not go into detail on "pals" use of kids. The operative phrase in your post is "if it's the truth" - right "IF" however your post continues as if it's not only true but with such intention that soldiers only aim for children, and that is a patent lie straight from Pallywood.
42. #18 - And shall we bring up Hamas videos?
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
Let's go one step further and look at Hamas videos so vile that they would make Hitler blush. And these are broadcast on public TV for all children there to see. So let's assume that Majd was really a terrorist who say all Jews as sons of pigs and dogs and he would have knifed a soldier the first chance he got. Argue against it, moron. The real fact is that IDF soldiers listen to their commanders not rabbis. And in Judaism everyone knows that full redemption comes from following Torah and the mitzvahs, none of which speak about annihilating anyone or anything...unlike the crap being spewed out of Iran these days.
43. #25 - Well, give back Gush Katif then
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
In 1948, the Egyptians ethnically cleansed all Jews from Gush Katif, that is, the ones they let live and Egyptians were not in the business of letting Jews live. West Bank, Jordan ethnically cleanses Jews from their centuries-old cities, defiled their synagogues, and illegally annexed their land and gave it to Arabs. One thing was for sure - Jews owned the land they were forced from and we have the deeds. But these farmers from Najd, did they have deeds or were they left over from the feifdom set up by the Turks, or illegal economic migrants from the 1930s? Please add the context.
44. #24 - and your proof is....in your head??
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
Um yeah, that's the reason why Israel didn't work with Goldstone.... or it could be that the band of researchers on the report announced their positions well before the investigations began. When someone says you're guilty right away, why would you even recognize them as anything but biased cowards? Go get real evidence, not accusations (as Goldstone admitted they all were), and return. Otherwise, you're just pissing in the wind.
45. #28 - Imagine if Darfurians were as "defenseless"
William ,   Israel   (03.13.10)
They'd already be in Khartoum! The average Gazan may be defenseless - and that is WHY they are considered civilians - the average Hamas terrorist is not. Would you call 10,000 rockets targeting civilians as defenseless? How about IEDs so large they brought down most of the apartment buildings damaged during Cast Lead? Having that kind of explosive power doesn't seem defenseless to me. There is one thing Gazans are defenseless against....the oppression and war crimes of Hamas, and it's a shame you people can't (or won't) recognize that. A real shame...for the kids, for the women.
46.  why would he think that the soldier would give him chocolat
rachel ,   usa   (03.13.10)
If he was so afraid of being killed , . This doesn't make any sense ...This is all bullshit ... ....More Pallywood story ....no one believes this except an idiot
47. TERRORIZING CIVILIANS
Loraine ,   Monterey, CA   (03.13.10)
SHAME SHAME ON ISRAEL!!!
48. Take the land but treat the children as children
mouhamad ,   towson, USA   (03.13.10)
Israelis have no values...I am lebanese and if lebanese soldiers do this ...I would burn my passport and never return back to lebanon...why because i believe in secular justice, justice for every human being, the one i disagree with and agree . what live to have if we ve got not values, no morals . I see a lot of israelis say " we don't agree with this " but this is just sn empty answear because in reality and fact the people of israel supported the war in 97% according media polls; they will never treat the palestinians with justice..you want the land , please take it -i hate this land- but treat t palestinian children as children, treat civilians with dignity and respect ... I am sure that my words will not penetrate your hearts . I can't stop crying for that kid ...
49. #9 Dan
DaniEl ,   CA USA   (03.13.10)
Where were you when Hamas launched 6000 attacks on Israeli citizens? Every one a war crime? Those Jewish soldiers should have the right to be home with their families, but Hamas FORCED them to put a stop to the rockets. The whole mess is on their heads. They train these kids to do this, so what you insist on are dead Jewish soldiers so hamas can have a successful human shield tactic. Of course you're willing to sacrifice the Jew, that's what antisemites do. About the "seige." Egypt has a border with Gaza too, for the first time in the history of warfare, a people under seige, ISRAEL, surrounded by millions of savage antisemite arabs, is pressured to give food, fuel, aid to an army sworn to their destruction! The UK is going to get more and more of what Israel has been dealing with for 60 yrs, Enjoy the London dirty bomb from your moderate muslim neighbors! lol! You asked for it!! Git!
50. israel, israel israrel!
jj   (03.13.10)
keep it up boys! proud to be sons of ours!
51. Very sad and shameful
Rachel   (03.13.10)
I guess this goes to show there are very bad people in every society. Nevertheless,this does not change my mind one bit about Israelis who I believe overall are a decent,humane people. I am also sickened and outraged by what happened here if it really did. But you notice the same hypocrite people who are outraged over what happened to this child, showed no outrage at all over the 3 year old Israeli child who beaten to death even after she begged for her life by the PLO terrorist,or the pregnant mother and her 4 small daughters who were shot in the head at close range by the Hamas terrorists.
52. #28 Do you feel stupid?
Cynthia ,   USA   (03.13.10)
Defenseless people don't fire over 8000 kassams and bombs at Israel and not expect a response. Hamas is armed to the teeth. They run multi-million dollar weapons smuggling businesses and hide behind women and children. They regularly use children as look-outs, for smuggling in the tunnels, to plant bombs, throw rocks and grenades at soldiers and carry out terror attacks.
53. #25 "residents fled"
Cynthia ,   USA   (03.13.10)
Arabs of Palestine declined the partition agreement and began a civil war in '47, In '48 seven Arab armies and militias attacked Israel and lost the war. Sderot was established in '51. The terror attacks on Sderot, a peaceful Israeli community, demonstrate how Arabs have not learned from their mistakes and still hope to destroy Israel.
54. editor!!post #12 needs to be erased!!!
Ilana   (03.13.10)
It is a terrible and illegal remark and he uses swer words-jeez what a creepy creature!
55. Bunch of hypocrites ...
Ilana   (03.13.10)
To the Israel bashers: Just one place, not Iraq or Somalia or the many other muslim countries -just one place for example: The bodies of 200 dead — including many women and children — lined streets in three Christian villages south of the regional capital of Jos, a civil rights group said. About 200 bodies,if not more had been counted by Sunday afternoon. Some background info: Rioting in September 2001 killed more than 1,000 people . Muslim-Christian battles killed up to 700 people in 2004. More than 300 residents died during a similar uprising in 2008. Violence in January killed more than 300 people. And here certain idiots complain about a kid who was wrongly hassled but is very much alive. If you care so much about things why the silence on 2000 deaths over a few years. Are these not humans? Are these not women? ARE THESE NOT CHILDREN?? Let me guess, instead of focusing on what is really important you will use that line again of me changing the subject! Because all you really want to do is whine about what you hate-Israel.
56. For those who search for or invent reasons
Mary Beth   (03.13.10)
to attack Israel's morality, I strongly you suggest looking at this site. I warn you that some pictures are not easy to look at, like the shackled child... Or the half buried man waiting to be stoned to death. And you complain about a child who was maybe used but is alive and kicking today. Be it he was a jew and the soldier a muslim, he would have been dead long ago. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
57. Very hateful talkbackers here
Katherine ,   Canada   (03.13.10)
You right-wing nuts with your hateful posts towards this child are very shameful. You are no better than the anti-semites you claim to despise. You all preach the same non-sense and hatred--only you direct it towards the Palestinian people.
58. EDITOR!!! erase post 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ilana   (03.13.10)
This should be reported to
59. Ilana et al, if you were a decent Jew you would condemn this
Sultan ,   Jeddah   (03.13.10)
without any ifs or buts. Quit trying to justify this unimaginable cruelty by claiming an Arab would have shot a jewish child because it is an absolutely vicious lie. You must realize that there is good and bad in all peoples, including IDF soldiers. No one said that every single Israeli soldier is as cruel as these soldiers, but many of them are. Just like many hamasis would probably not care if Israeli children died in a bombing either, but they only represent a nasty minority.
60. Truth or fiction
Koppers ,   Manchester   (03.13.10)
After the Al Dura incident, the supposed beach shelling incident and various other Pallywood productions - I simply don't believe a word of it.
Previous talkbacks
Next talkbacks
Back to article