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Report: PM to ask US for bombs against Iran
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Published: 21.03.10, 07:55
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1. Do it at your peril
Robert ,   Brisbane, Australia   (03.21.10)
"“They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran,” said Dan Plesch" As much as Israel would love to destroy Iran, it would be a disaster for both the US and Israel should Iran be attacked. It will unleash a world-wide retaliation on the west and it will be the end of Israel.
2. The bombs would be for hezbollah bunkers that bush agreed to
jason ,   haifa israel   (03.21.10)
Bush in 2008 agreed with olmert to give israel lower level bunker buster bombs. At the time bush didn't agree to the bigger buster bombs but didn't rule it out later. Olmert didn't ask again. Obama is blocking the smaller bunker buster bombs in case of a war with hezbollah. Syrian leader assad has bragged about building up hezbollah's bunkers and this is what the bombs would be for if hezbollah started a war. Hezbollah has a lot of bunkers that syria built. Yet Obama is giving syria airplane parts, sensitive communication parts, and offer into IMF and yet he isn't demanding syria stop arming, training and funding and hosting terrorists and stop the weapons flow. Syria has even gotten close with sudan and iran now brings weapons through sudan to gaza and syria's leader is close with sudan's leader.
3. #1
Bobby G ,   America   (03.21.10)
Here's where you are wrong. The US will bomb Iran back to the stone age. An improvement, I know. But Iran stands no chance against the US
4. Obama will do nothing.
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.21.10)
He is the biggest pacifist to walk into the oval office. He isn't going to strike.....he is going to try and stop Israel from striking. He is not going to help Israel do anything. Keeeep Dreeeaaaming!!!! Keep dreaming He might get a worthless health care bill passed. The governments bankrupt....so whats another Trillion dollars?
5. to #1 Robert
Ariel ,   Modi'in, Israel   (03.21.10)
You need to turn to the part of the book where Israel lives to the end... No matter what they throw at Israel, Israel survives. They better be careful what Israel throws back!! I hope you don't for one millisecond think that Israel will just sit there and take what they throw at her.....
6. Olmert had a friendly u.s president and waited too long
jason ,   haifa israel   (03.21.10)
IDF asked Olmert and Peretz for the bombs before the lebanon war and they said no because of budget reasons. Then after the lebanon war when israel's bombs couldn't break hezbollah's bunkers Olmert didn't go to Bush until 2008 for the bunker buster bombs against hezbollah. Well by then Obama could block the delivery and when he came into office he did just that. These aren't even the big bunker buster bombs for iran this is just the small bunker bombs israel would need in a war against hezbollah. Bibi knows Obama would've never gone for the iran bombs and press reports have stated bibi and his staff know this. Olmert had a friendly u.s president and let it go to waste for Obama to block it.
7. Israel should build its own bunker buster
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.21.10)
bombs. We built our own fighter aircraft in the past, cruise missiles, tanks, satellites, drones and a number of other weapons and weapon systems. Why not super bunker buster bombs?
8. There will be no war..Just another ridiculous article...
Peter ,   Vienna-Austria   (03.21.10)
If you really fall for this and the nonsense around it...then you are even more hilarious. There will be no war. And oh by the way,for those talk backers who actually think a war with iran would be simple,well think again. Surely you guys remember Vietnam?? Trust me,if it was as easy as you make it sound,the Bush administration would have done it a long time ago. You already have a lot of trouble in afghanistan and to some extent in iraq. How could you even think of opening a 3rd front against a country that does have the power to fight back, has a population of 75 million of whom most are under the age of 30 and would easily fight under the flag(as predicted by most analysts) and would cause a huge economical melt down. Lets not forget that neither of these talks have actually scared the iranians and on the contrary,they are the ones who seem to taunt the israelis to strike(remember the case in which they brought to surface most of their uranium stockpile?)
9. report:
debbie ,   israel   (03.21.10)
TO ROBERT, BRISBANE Your talkbacks are a real breath of fresh air. Don't you ever have anything positive to say? What do you suggest? That Israel sit back and wait until it's too late, and a crazy mad dictator has a nuclear bomb in his hands, ready to destroy Israel? There are those of us who feel that 6,000,000 murdered Jewish men, women, children, babies, are enough. We would like to live, if that's ok with you.
10. People in brisbane
Dan ,   Brisbane Australia   (03.21.10)
I would like to apologise on behalf of the good people of Brisbane Australia. I have seen one or two brisbanites on this site who seem to be eagerly and joyfully anticipating the destruction of Israel. These guys sit around in the comfort of their safe little bedrooms and hurl abuse and criticisms probably while waiting for some pirated or illegal images and video to be downloaded. I would just like you to know that we are not all like that. Go Israel!!!
11. THE BOMBS THAT NETANYAHU WANTS
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.21.10)
Yes Mr.Netanyahu.You may carry few on the way back to Israel as samples while the rest are more nearer to you on the island of Diego Garcia.But where exactly do you want to use them?Iranian Nuclear sites?Long way to go,sir.
12. If Bibi wants leverage over the US end military aid
zionist forever   (03.21.10)
The military aid is a much needed government subsidy to the US arms industry. It also guarantees that Israel will spend the bulk of its annual military budget in the US and one of the conditions is Israel is obligated to buy a certain percentage of its weapons from the US, its not allowed to shop around. Israel spends more of its own money on US weapons every year than it gets in aid. If Israel gave up that aid not only would it give Israel the freedom to shop around but it would remove the US veto on who Israel sells domesticly developed weapons to. So that means more competition on the export market. Russia & India are developing their own version of the F22. There will probably be no or very few export restrictions and probably be cheaper than the US F35. Buy a foreign stealth jet, incorporate Israeli avionics & munitions and you got a western standard stealth jet for cheaper than F35 and without the restrictions. Thats just 1 example of the options avalible without military aid. We built Markava, planned to build Lavi & many other systems because of the European arms embargos. When military aid came along we forgot the lessons learned about becoming reliant on others. The US is now showing they can't be trusted anymore than Europe could and are putting an unofficial arms embargo on Israel. Can the US afford Israel to say no more military aid and all the American jobs & national income that would be lost?
13. The good people of Brisbane
Robert ,   Brisbane, Australia   (03.21.10)
#10 Dan in Brisbane There you go, going off half cocked. Nowhere did I indicate that I wished for Israel to be destroyed. However it is evident that you and people like you would be over the moon with the destruction of Iran. I don't wish for any country to be destroyed, Israel, Iran and especially the Palestinian territories. It would pay you to read and digest posts before you accuse people of abuse. Your comment "hurl abuse and criticisms probably while waiting for some pirated or illegal images and video to be downloaded" is abuse in itself. I would just like you all to know that we are not all like that in Brisbane. Get with it Dan and wake up to yourself.
14. What!!
James ,   Herzeliya   (03.21.10)
Don't believe everything you read in the Sunday Times. Netanyahu does not expect anything from Obama.
15. #8, so what?
Danny   (03.21.10)
There is a difference. The US and Israel are not looking for regime change rather just to take out some sites. You think the US cannot hit those sites? You think a few photoshopped weapons will stop them?
16. Obama is no pacifist
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (03.21.10)
Obama is no pacifist, see how he is wiping out the Afghan civilians for no apparent reason. His problem is that the Iranians outsmarted him. He started out his presidency hoping to wipe out Israel, honestly believing that this would lead to world peace. While he was busy attacking Israel, Iran expanded into Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and strengthened in Gaza. Now, if he attacks Iran, both Egypt and Saudi Arabia fall. His only solution is to get Israel to attack Iran, hoping that Iran will strike back eliminating Israel and Iran. But he has so delegitimized Israel that Israel can't do anything. "Community organizers" shouldn't play in the big league.
17. Israel buying bunker-busters
Jens ,   Germany   (03.21.10)
Why is this information public??? Shouldn't ALL these military matters be kept secret? Is this intent or incompetence? A successful air strike on Iran should be unexpected (as much as possible), otherwise it has little effect. From an Iranian point of view it would be totally stupid to invest years of efforts in building nuclear sites, just to sit and wait that Israel destroys them again.
18. Good luck ending what's a already virtual embargo
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (03.21.10)
There's already a virtual embargo on several advanced military systems, not just bunker busters. Apaches, aerial refueling tankers are also being embargoed, as well as technical data on the F-15 SE. The F-22 of course isn't being exported, and the F-35 is years late and rising in cost. And I wouldn't put it past Obama to restrict access to the military stores the US keeps in Israel. Obama is bring on the next war by convincing Israel's neighbors that Israel is without its closest ally and thus defeatable.
19. Bibi will be laughed out of the room...
Persian CAT   (03.21.10)
as always.
20. We Need More "Inglorious Bastards" Types
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (03.21.10)
This is my suggestion to Israel. If you cannot get those bunker busters and smart bombs (5,000 ordered), then use your other weapory. Iran displays it's newest weapons, (including cruise missile) and will have a few nukes soon. Israel has 400 high fusion nukes. Use them for G-ds sake..take out their nuke sites, Rev Guards, Ahmad's regime..and other spots. Syria/Hamas/Hez join in, (as advertised) do what you have to. Beirut is an easy target.since Lebanon also is tied in treaties. Iran gone, the Pales conflict will die down literally. For 6years, 1.5m Jewish children were butchered and 5m of their parents, etc. The world did nothing, not a wimper from the Pope (who could have stopped Hitler). Jews were not considered humans..not allowed to escape (blocked from or into). Now, we Jews make wars against us intolerable. To win, the fascists need a naive, gullible, third-word orientated fool (see Venezuela). But didn't we all know it? "I told you so" to little acceptance. (See "Inglorious Bastards", a movie which some Jews decry as too much scifi, "We don't think that way". True, that is the problem.
21. To Raymone: Obama is Playing with Nuke Fire!
Dav Lev ,   Burbank CAUSA   (03.21.10)
There is a commitment to give Israel 30b over 10 years to purchase military equipment. My question to Raymond is: if so, why give the funding (allocated by Congress)? Can you give us a link to where the embargo is revealed? I have suggested that 1m Jews/Christians email our Pres/VP/Sec of State, to stop the Intifada against Israel by him and his court Jews. He is listening to J St and their ilk, which, only will make things worse.Yes, a perceived Israel is very dangerous to the region and world. Israel has 400 nukes (10times Hiroshima's power). Don't back it against the wall, is my advice to Obama. You will reap what you sow. This is a certainty.
22. stand fast bibi!
OZ   (03.21.10)
don;t let nobama dictate to israel how and if it shall survive.. we have been thru hostile administarations before, as bad as this one ,and we survvied them. hisotry will judge you in how you'll handle nobama/bliiary/kapo emanuel/rataxlrod/shmiden and the rest.
23. Better a bunker buster than an atmospheric detonation
US citizen ,   Atlanta, US   (03.21.10)
I would that Mr. Obama release the bunker busters to Israel rather than force them to employ an atmospheric detonation when they attack Iran.
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