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Obama is pro-Israel
Alon Pinkas
Published: 29.03.10, 14:00
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31. if you tell a lie enough it becomes true
david ,   new york   (03.29.10)
obamas strategy has been to tax the air people breathe and then claim he is cutting taxes. he launches one of the most damaging attacks against israel ever and then claims he's "pro-israel". his idea is that by claiming to be the opposite to what he's actually doing, he will weaken and confuse the opposition people have to his far left agenda. it had worked reasonably until recently but the american electorate is getting a little more experienced with him and a little wiser. his poll numbers show it.
32. antitisrael
miguel   (03.29.10)
Obama is pro arab and his obnoxious bow before king of saudi arabia and his allegiance to kalidi prove. One who is clearly antitisraei is david landau. Railing against his orthodox upbringing in London like Oz, he turns the other way and tells strangers to rape israel. Now he says dark forces are at work in israel. Even with the blood of 1000s of israelis and rockets from west bank oslo and sharon gaza prove, its not enough for landau. Do you think obama will p rotect tel aviv from rockets? Do you think th egutless collection of merde from EU will offer protection? Give me a break! As shamir did, bibi should have banged the table in the white house and said no more concessions. This is what shamir did, a brave patriot to the end. Did you notice that those advocating security risky concessions have either no combat experience and/or undistinguished records-livni, olmert, haber, ramon, peres, peretz, landau, emanuel, axelrod,biden, obama, clintons. What the hell do they know of the value of hills looking down on tel aviv?
33. Only Time Wil Tell
GHook93 ,   Chicago   (03.29.10)
First, I would like to point out that Pinkus's liberal perspective is what is always wrong with the liberal perspective. They are too gullible! Second, Obama has proven that he is just a politician and will say whatever to whoever to gain a vote. Third, he is showing his true colors on this I/P issue. He was never an Israeli supporter prior to running for Presidency, there is no reason to believe that has changed after being elected. Fourth, while I definitely think he sides with the Palestinians, I just pray he is not brazen enough to take it further. I personally believe, if he gets reelected (which is a HUGE if), then he manufactures a crisis and cuts off Israel. He then spends his last term doing what he can to distance himself from Israel. Time can only tell, but Pinkus is wrong to state at the moment he is pro-Israel.
34. Mr. Pinkus are you for real????
Rosie   (03.29.10)
Mr. Pinkus you are in La La land!!! What are you somking or what drugs are you taking??? If the actions of Mr Obama are pro-Israel than what is not? Obama is not concerned about the building of nukes in Iran but Jerusalem is what concerns him the most??? Come on Mr. Pinkus get real.
35. How pitiful and sad...
Steven ,   San Francisco   (03.29.10)
that there are people like the author of the article that will refuse to see what is glaringly obvious -- that Obama is very much anti-Israel.
36. If Obama is pro-Israel . . .
Mark ,   New York   (03.29.10)
I'd hate to see Mr. Pinkas' definition of someone who is anti Israel. Since taking office Obama has forced Israel to accept concessions without requesting anything from Israel's enemies. He has withheld weapon shipments vital to Israel's security and established diplomatic relations with Israel's mortal enemy: Syria...while codling Iran (a nation that threatens to wipe Israel off the map). If Obama is pro-Israel Jimmy Carter was a member of the Irgun!
37. #7
bisli   (03.29.10)
with sufficient thrust pigs can fly too.
38. OBAMA OWES ISRAEL LITTLE
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (03.29.10)
Why should President Obama be pro -israel ?? Lots of U.S jews are not especially zionistic and Obama is not jewish .Israelis should forget about their imaginary expectations and feeling of automatic entitlement.But neither does the President ,with due respect ,need to be anti -Israel .And enough with the childish name calling.
39. Realistic assessment by Pinkas is shouted down
Ben Alofs ,   BANGOR, Gwynedd   (03.29.10)
What I find amazing is not the sober assessment by Alon Pnkas, which is actually not far off the mark, but the way all the Talkbackers here disagree with him. There is no better illustration of the denial of reality in which so many Israelis and their uncritical supporters abroad live. One day they will have a rude awakening.
40. Yes he is - in a parallel universe ...
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (03.29.10)
we only have to look at his choice of friends to know this story is a weak attempt. This 'man' is not even pro-American let alone pro-Israel. Now what about that birth certificate then?????
41. listen to #19, he has a good point!
Eddie ,   london UK   (03.29.10)
Obama wants to change the status quo, and that means in America. He will change it from being a Christian white ocuntry to a mulitcultural islamo friendly state. Giving citizenship to 13M illegal immigrants, he will probably also open the floodgates to the world's refugees, like Blair has done to the Uk. He wants to destroy Israel first, and America second.
42. the same thing was said in 1933
CHAIM ON 54 ST. ,   BROOKLYN NY   (03.29.10)
the pathetic german jewish leaders said exactly the same thing in 1933 when hitler was elected, do i compare Obama to hitler? absolutely,this abomination is a vicious marxist jew hater,as a matter of fact this muslim and jihadist loving traitor even hates his own country and is out to destroy it
43. #3
M ,   Finland   (03.29.10)
“Obama's entire dogma rejects and nullifies everything Israel stands for” Only shows how weak Israel foundations really are then...
44. Bad joke. Obama is not Pro-US. Let alone Pro-Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.29.10)
This column by Pinkas is a very bad joke. Obama's sympathies don't even appear to be with America. Let alone Israel. Obama's impact on America is devastating, both on the domestic and foreign policy fronts. Unemployment, taxes and deficits are skyrocketing under Obama's policies. Obamacare, opposed by an astounding 67% of Americans, was slammed through both chambers using trickery and arm twisting Washington hasn't seen in a very long time. If ever. Obama bows to Moslem leaders while showing Bibi his shoe. Deeply steeped in Moslem culture, this was no mistake. Obama knew exactly what he was doing. Obama is pro-Moslem and pro-Iran but it defeats logic to call him Pro-America or Pro-Israel.
45. Obama is as pro-Israel...
The White Shadow   (03.29.10)
...as the leadership of Iran. Do not be fooled.
46. Obama is neither pro-Israel nor anti-Israel
Mikey ,   SomeWhere OverHere   (03.29.10)
Ultimately, he will be pro-Israel enough as is necessary to not affect his political position negatively, or as Pinkas points out to the extent that he thinks Israel is useful enough to uphold stability in the region. To the extent that he thinks Israeli policies have the potential to endanger the US's position with regard to other important interests in the region, he won't support Israel and Israelis shouldn't expect him to.
47. Re: Khalidi, Wright, et al.
Mikey ,   SomeWhere OverHere   (03.29.10)
And for all those screaming that Obama is a puppet influenced by the likes of Rashid Khalidi , it is instructive to note that if you look at both the "pro Palestinian" anti-Zionist far left websites as well as the Islamist agenda-inspired websites, they are fulminating that Obama is influenced by "extreme Zionists" like Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod who order him to carry out Israeli decrees. Go look at extreme anti-Israel sites like Andrew Cockburne's counterpunch.org and that is how reality looks to them. I think while Obama isn't especially pro-Israel, neitehr is he anti-Israel, and the other side sees him as too pro-Israel or at least beholden politically to pro-Israel groups. To paraphrase Pinkas, just because Obama doesn't smother Israel in love and wet kisses doesn't make him an antiSemite. He has what he perceives to be US interests uppermost in his mind first and that is as it should be.
48. Alon Pinkas, they are really spitting on you, it's not rain
m   (03.29.10)
49. Obama and America are pro-Isreal
Mike - Los Angeles ,   USA   (03.29.10)
50. ...And Al-Qaeda is Pro-American!
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (03.29.10)
...And the Pope is Pro-Choice. And the KKK is Pro-Black. Get the idea, Pinkus? You're an idiot!
51. Alon, you are dead wrong
Michael ,   USA   (03.29.10)
Alon Pinkus, it's a real shame that you have taken is new path in your analysis, you couldn't be more wrong, and you became a leftist, I heard you in the Israeli media and what you are saying, it's a real shame that you are selling our country and agreeing with this anti-semite, and that is what Obama is, 25 years of those nasty sermons weekly have done there share of hatred instilled in this American president, call it like it is and don't sugar coat this scum-bag. All of these left wing Jewish haters should move to Gaza and have their freedom there, Happy Passover.
52. IN OUR TIME!
HERCULE SAVINIEN ,   EL CAJON SD CA USA   (03.29.10)
In Our Time! [Think Tanks] Now, think-tanks were originally designed to think thru problems and come up with possible ending to a that problem, based upon all the possible information available, while the other side is doing the exact same thing but neither can read the others minds or are prepared for the unforeseen, [FATE]. But that was changed by the American-Israeli Empire, they start from the conclusion and work backwards, this is what we want to happen now how do we get there, and that is exactly what they are doing today. The object of the exercise is plausible deniability. [Plausible Deniability] Reading some of the Empire Think-Tanks, the conclusion that must be reached is, it was the Israeli State without our knowledge, or support that was responsible for the pre-emptive Nuclear Attacks against the Shi-ite Persian Republic of Iran’s Nuclear Medical Research and other facilities and we denounce and condemn there actions. There Think-Tank scenario suggests that there will only be limited response by the other Sphere-of-Influence, in their own self interests if at all, The State of Israel would be involved in armed combat for a period of time with its Northern Lebanon neighbor, and the Empire’s Fleets would clear the Straits of Hormuz of minds and all threats to the oil flowing from ports along the oil coasts and of course be in absolute control the Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, and the Northwestern Arabian Sea, with its Superior Naval Sea Power, and such action was taken only as a last resort, and the Empire would send all assistance necessary in aide, relief, and any security forces necessary to maintain order, as the Republic of Iran re-established it control over the situation, as the Empire occupies its territory. [Jerusalem] The only question is just all this is going to work, now all the Deist of the [3] Three Torah/Old Testament, religions, believe that the Third-Israeli Temple [MUST] be rebuilt prior to each of their God’s, or at least [2] Two, as the Israeli Jews will have their God in a Box, retrieved from some small village in Ethiopia, brought there by the son of David and the Queen of Sheba, which will be within the Third Jewish Temple in the Box, behind the Curtain. White we Non-Deist think there all nuts, but to each his own, as long as it doesn’t involve us. Now, it’s the timing of the rebuilding of the Third Temple, we are beginning to think that the attack upon the Republic of Iran severs a [2nd] Second objective, to provide cover for the destruction of the Dome of the Rock. [The Noble Sanctuary] The Dome of the Rock, or Haram al-Sharif, the Noble Sanctuary, which contains the Al Aqsa Mosque, and is Islam’s third Holiest Site of the Faith of Islam, is going to be replaced by the Third Jewish Temple, and no less than [200] Two-Hundred Sex-Segregated, [Women in the Back of the Bus], Israeli Only Buses, are moving about the city of Jerusalem, with [Build Temple Quickly, In Our Time], plastered on the sides, as Uzi gun carrying, Hard-Core Israeli ultra-nationalist Yisrael Beitenu (Israel is Our Home) party, and Eretz Israel Shelanu (Our Land of Israel), headed by Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpo and Baruch Marzel, member pour into East Jerusalem, and into the settlements surrounding the city acting as a second security ring beyond that of the present wall that separates Jerusalem from the West Bank. And a strike upon Iran could provide the catalyst for the destruction of the Dome of the Rock and the re-building of the Temple or not. HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
53. IN OUR TIME!
HERCULE SAVINIEN ,   EL CAJON SD CA USA   (03.29.10)
IN OUR TIME [END PART] [In Our Time!] The question arises which will come first the Chicken or the Egg or both at the same time, will the catalyst be the Third Jewish Temple or the Pre-Emptive Nuclear Attack upon, the Republic of Iran, or both in injunction. Either way it’s going to happen, the Think-Tanks have taught it out, there is plausible deniability, all the part are in place, in Jerusalem, the Settlement Ring of Security, The Inner Ring of Security, and the Fleets of the Empire are in place to take control of oil routes, with additions Empire troops in position to flood the zone. So, when the button is pushed what will it be, one, the other, or both? As a Non-Deist we really hate religion, its going to get us all killed in the end. Build Temple Quickly, In Our Time, more like Bring and End Too Us All, In Our Time! HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
54. Mickey #47
Brod ,   USA   (03.29.10)
Obama appointed those Judas- Emanuel and Axelrod as props to cover up his AntiSemitism. Those Jews who do not know the GOD of Israel and the Land of Israel, that is, they don't care about the Land of Israel, are not true Jews. They are worst than AntiSemites. They are Judas!
55. Alon Pinkas' analysis is completely reasonable...
Rafi ,   US   (03.29.10)
... and I'm guessing that his real-world experience as a former Consul General is far more credible than 99% of the emotional invective listed here... Israel would be infinitely better off if it had a Foreign Minister of Alon Pinkas' caliber. As it is, Israel is getting more isolated by the day: Diaspora Jews, especially Jewish youth, are increasingly alienated... Turkey and the UK are one thing; now Bibi and his supporters are working on the grand-daddy of all: the United States. Latest step in the current process began with the insulting behavior toward a true friend of Israel, VP Joe Biden, followed by bravado statements @ AIPAC conference, etc. Yes - Bibi, Danny Ayalon, et al will soon accomplish what Israel's enemies could only dream of: full, worldwide diplomatic isolation of Israel. Better yet - it will have been accomplished by its own "leadership" and their right-wing followers. Ahminadjab (Iran), Nassrallah (Hizbollah), Mashal (Hamas), Assad (Syria) and Amr Mousa (Arab League) could not be more pleased. We are light years from the days of Y. Rabin, z"l, when in the early-1990's countries were expanding relations with Israel continuously (even Indonesia, the most populous Muslim nation)... Meanwhile, twenty years later, the current crew is working on burning bridges with Israel's last great ally, the US. Beyond belief !!
56. Mr. Pinkus, welcome to our planet.
Anatoly ,   San Jose, California   (03.30.10)
How do you like it here?
57. alon pinkas
leslie stein ,   sydney, australia   (03.30.10)
Pinkas' article reflects poorly on the standard of Israel's diplomatic corps. If suddendly demanding of Israel a host of unreasonable actions such as prohibiting building in Jerusalem, freeing terrorists as a goodwill gesture and easing the blockade on Gaza while paying no heed to the PLA's constant re-assertion of its commitment to the right to undertake violence and its public adoration of murderers is not not an anti-Israel measure than what is?
58. No wonder Al Queda is pro-US the same way, get out of Muslim
KO   (03.30.10)
land.
59. Shouting down unreal Pinkas
Ben Alofs ,   BANGOR, Gwynedd   (03.30.10)
Just another idiot former... ex... wannabe with no feet on firm ground is trying to make a buck writing provocative articles that have no basis in facts.
60. @20
(03.30.10)
you are hysterically funny!
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