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Report: US may abstain from UN resolution on east Jerusalem
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Published: 28.03.10, 21:58
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31. this is temporary
Barney ,   USA   (03.29.10)
hussein obama won't make another term. the majority of govt and people relate to Israel and do not understand the mentality(if that's what you call it)of people who are constantly blowing each other up-in every muslim country, in Israel, who are proud to strap bombs on their own children as long as it kills Jews or other muslims they don't agree with, who are extreme in every way without a voice of moderation surfacing, of crowds burning American flags and chanting death to America and Israel, honor killings of their own daughters, and the list goes on ad nauseum. Not even a big idiot can really believe that this is where America is headed. The American public made on HUGE mistake, obama, and that is because there weren't any great options. The American/Israeli relationship will be around when they are talking in the history books about what a piece of crap president obama was.
32. daz
#13 china ,   eu   (03.29.10)
You'll be in good company then as you both have appalling human rights records
33. How much the less ...
Janice Cohen ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.29.10)
would we have to pay them mind , especially when it comes to Iran ?
34. #32
(03.29.10)
What is your opinion of the French/Spanish genocide of the Basque? Or the continuing occupation of Ireland by English colonists?
35. :: Lets skip to the end...
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (03.29.10)
#14 said: Such sentiments are common among the Ynuts here. “Israel is a Sovereign Country and Bibi should tell Obama to F**k Off while we Build-Build-Build!!” Let’s suppose just for a moment that this came to pass and Israel actually told Obama to sod off, what do you think will happen then? Have ye actually thought this through!? In truth Israel has no option but to play ball with Obama however Bibi will come back with his written Letter of Understanding which of course will fail short of Obama’s demands. Obama will say “I am sorry you feel that way, come back when you change your mind” followed by: 1) Obama continues on with his peace plan while sidelining Israel 2) Bye-bye US veto 3) EU/UN/HR Orgs/etc have a field day passing res’s 4) Israel’s ‘enemies’ feel empowered to poke and prod Israel to test this new US/Israeli ‘relationship’. Bibi and his rabid rightwing loonies will fall out and after new elections Zippy (with her ‘Peace for Israel’ campaign) will be more agreeable to Obama’s Peace Plan. After Obama has a new Israeli ‘partner in peace’ we will see serious renewal of final peace talks with the Palestinians, which of course fits in nicely with Obama’s two year timeframe. We all know this is how it will play out so can we skip all the moaning and whining about “Oh this is all Obama’s fault”/”I blame Iran myself”/”Why doesn’t anyone love us?!” and get to the part where there is a just and fair peace between Israel and the Palestinians regardless if it will never satisfy the Ynuts here?
36. Hard Decision
SS ,   Australia   (03.29.10)
Oil or Israel. You do the maths.
37. they just made negotiations more difficult. time to expand r
ralph   (03.29.10)
relations with china.
38. Protecting its people and borders is Israel's moral duty.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (03.29.10)
if America demands that Israel relinquish biblical territory, refrain from responding to the murder of its citizens, or cease building in the West Bank, Israel's reply should be "No." And if aid is thereby cut off (unlikely but possible), so be it. Protecting its people and borders is Israel's moral obligation. Maintaining close relations with America is not. Israel will not collapse without America as an ally. It can survive on its own or form alliances with other countries. More at : http://xrl.us/bex2jh
39. #35 Matty = Daydreamer
Mike M. ,   Seattle Wa.   (03.29.10)
All sounds so logical, just lacking substance.
40. obama anti-israel before he was president
david ,   new york   (03.29.10)
as a candidate he said he would not support an israel with likud in the government and said that the "no one has suffered more than the palestinians" from early on his people said that they would work to undermine any israeli government not to their liking by, amoung other things, allowing israel to be beat up in the UN and making israelis fearful enough to ditch their elected govenement. face it man, he doesn't like us. but the good thing is that much of america doesn't like him either (and most americans do not agree with his anti-israel attitude) http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8217
41. Israel becoming a pariah nation
David ,   USA   (03.29.10)
The World has grown tired of Israel's games--pretending to talk peace with one hand while building illegal settlements with the other. If Israel won't give the Palestinians their State as is necessary for peace, then Israel should be treated as a pariah nation. As a U.S. Jew, I support the Obama administration's efforts to pressure Israel on the illegal settlement construction.
42. matty 35 your scenario stopped too soon
steve ,   usa boston   (03.29.10)
After the Palestinian state is announced, the Palestinians, who have no intention of living in peace with Israel, use their new West Bank state as a launching pad for terror attacks on Israel. Israel retaliates against a sovereign Palestinian state which causes Syria, Hezbollah, Iran and possibly Egypt, Gulf arabs and Jordan to attack Israel. Turkey may aid them as well. Europe and America declare arms embargos on Israel for starting the war. There now we have the scenario.
43. #23 'Moral Tragedy'?!?
Christy ,   Boston, US   (03.29.10)
A 'moral tragedy' because they seek to defend themselves while surrounded on all sides by enemies who seek Israel's destruction??!! A 'moral tragedy' here is the propaganda, fed by Israel's enemies, that's lapped up with a spoon in the West. The US, and other Western Nations, gets spoon fed examples of Israeli atrocities by our media on an almost daily basis. The 'moral tragedy' of Israel is what's being taught in many of our (once great) US Universities - brainwashing our young adults. (It takes a while, about 10 + years, but eventually they will see the brainwashing for what it is.) It's very cool among our various elites to blame Israel for everything while giving a big-wide-pass to Israel's enemies who lob rockets, blow people up, and have vowed to drive the Jews out of Israel. Also, do you know who has said NO to a 2-state solution since the re-inception of Israel?? (Clue - it ain't Israel.) A BIG 'moral tragedy' in this area of the world is the untold billions of of $'s given to various leaders and organizations to help the 'Palestinian People' that's been wasted on everything *but* helping these people!! Leaders get rich and powerful, various groups do as well -- all the while the living conditions for the average Palestinian have not increased by much at all. I'd like to take all the US Tax Dollars given to various leaders and groups and -- give it to individual Palestinian Families who are trying to make lives for themselves.Bypass the various leaders and groups who have been more like leeches than helpers. Israel: Trust in G-d. He is your only, true, dependable source of help. All the enemies of the Jewish people, through history, have not prevailed against the Jewish People! The Jewish People are still here and will be here until the End of This Age. Also: Washington DC has to be very careful. Elections in November are drawing nearer!!
44. #6..#35.. MATTY -- POORLY THOUGHT OUT COMMENTS..
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (03.29.10)
#6, #35... HERE GROVES STATES THAT .......... " Obama continues on with his peace plan while sidelining Israel ". NOTICE HOW THIS ANTI-ISRAEL GUY STATES " OBAMA " CAN MAKE PEACE WITH THE ARABS AND WITHOUT ISRAEL. HE USED THE RIGHT WORDING HERE ..... " OBAMA " , MAY DO THINGS BUT NOT THE U.S.A. AS A COUNTRY. BECAUSE EVEN GROVES KNOWS THIS IS NOT THE WILL OF THE U.S. PEOPLE BUT THE WILL OF THE ARROGANT ONE CALLED " OBAMA ".
45. UN
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (03.29.10)
Who cares anymore what the UN says. They don't care about Israel so why should I care about what the UN says. Israel has to be strong and fight back against world anti Israel and anti Jewish feeling which is going to get substantial worse unless Israel and the Jewish people prepare for it. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
46. #28
Aaron ,   Prince George   (03.29.10)
Just because the US President & his administration do not support Israel does not mean Americans do not suppot Israel! Many of us do. We understand; God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel!
47. I think Obama is pushing all ME actors to war.
leo ,   usa   (03.29.10)
If article is true I will not be surprised if we will learn soon that Israel is courting China and Russia to get veto. I wonder how much China and Russia will ask for it. Obama, you better wise up before it is too late.
48. U.S. abstaining
john ,   Washington DC   (03.29.10)
It is funny how Turkey dictated and openly threatened the Obama administration against even thinking of voting the Arminian bill. The Whitehouse was backpeddling like cowards. On the other hand, here we see them take a very stern approach to the Jerusalem issue and still call themselves friends. What's more alarming is the American Jewish position...this just sucks
49. Obama anti-Israel
Brian   (03.29.10)
When Israel was attacked in 1948 (after the litany of previous attacks) the world had a choice: Israel or no Israel. That is still the choice that the world has to make. But their choice does not determine the outcome for Israel, only Israel determines the outcome. Rather, the choice determines the outcome for the rest of the world! Live with Israel or DON'T LIVE WITH ISRAEL! Stupid people get stupid choices to make.
50. Obama is only getting started now
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (03.29.10)
With Healthcare mainly out of the way, Obama and US will focus alot more on ME. He is working to get US, EU and Russia to work as one to bring peace to ME, which could cause many problems for many Israeli plans to force Muslims out and in to smaller areas.
51. #23
Ram ,   London   (03.29.10)
You are truly a foolish US Jew amongst a multitude. You guys haven't the faintest idea who or what you are backing! Where do you see a peace partner? What about the track record with regards to concessions by Israel that led to more demads and worse since forever? The current administration is not behaving like an honest broker but an appeaser that is giving legitimacy to the demands of what essentially is a terrorist entity, let alone the whole muslim world. Just look at their escalating recent demands! If the US abstains at the UN resolution on Jerusalem than either Israel should distance itself from it or just simply commit suicide by ignoring the sign. Ultimately Jews are on their own as history has proved. Ask yourself, what if Israel accepts the wish of the Obama administration and it doesn't lead to peace? Is it worth risking the security of the Jewish state on a US gamble? Have the Palestinians got a track record for honesty? Happy Passover ( I am sure you know why Jews celebrate).
52. #35 Sweet Matty
Ram ,   London   (03.29.10)
I can't help but smile at the fact how much you are relishing Israel's troubles. I often read your predictable post :-) You are fantasising a scenario that has a "probability" of being right but it can also be wrong. You see, there is no doubt Israel is very dependent on the US for its security "at the moment". But if the alliance ceases who is to tell if other powers will court it or not? Anyway; if Livni and the lefties take over do you care one little bit that they may jeopardise Israel's future by making massive concessions?Have the Palestnians EVER made a gesture towards peace? Are you aware their constitution demands the destruction of the jewish state? Are you aware that future generations are being indoctrinated to hate jews and to destroy them AT ANY COST? Come on Matty, you know both Israelis and Palestinians have to be "cajoled" equally by the Obama administration for the sake of even handedness. Blackmailing Israel will eventually backfire I believe.
53. US only vetoes resolutions against Israel 1/3 of the time
Shame   (03.29.10)
The United States did not cast its first veto until 1972, on a Syrian-Lebanese complaint against Israel. From 1967-72, the U.S. supported or abstained on 24 resolutions, most critical of Israel. From 1973-2003, the Security Council adopted approximately 100 resolutions on the Middle East, again, most critical of Israel. The U.S. vetoed a total of 37 resolutions and, hence, supported the Council's criticism of Israel by its vote of support or abstaining roughly two-thirds of the time Stats from State Department Website. US gov support for Israel is a myth read "A Concubine in the Middle East" by Ezra Zohar.
54. US Jews also preferred Drugs in 60's Jay Street!
Akiva ,   Maaleh Adumim   (03.29.10)
55. # 25
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.29.10)
Exactly, right, Shiran. Happy Pesach to you.
56. # 35
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.29.10)
Matty your post sounds more like a musical than reality. You are in for the surprise of your life. Dream on.
57. Israels enemys are closing ranks
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.29.10)
It seems quite appropriate for the shit head Hussein Obama, to close ranks with his look- a likes in the UN, in order to do harm to Americas greatest ally.
58. No way to continue with Mr. O
AlbertoGA ,   St. George, USA   (03.29.10)
By the way O and Zero are the same. H U M !
59. Obama-administration a threat to the USA !
Jaacov Baumann   (03.29.10)
You want to bring down a nation or an individual ? Let them be hostile towards the jews ! Check history ! Therefore the present US - administration is a lethal threat to the nation of the USA ! Continuing like this means the USA will soon stop to be a superpower. Millions in the USA know very well that this is true ! So, stand up and save your nation from certain downfall ! Now oe never !
60. #23
(03.29.10)
as an iranian muslim that knows muslims, arabs and iranians' way of thinking and wishes for israel, I AM Ashamed that you call yourself a jew. and i am more embarrassed for you that you even claim that israel is your moral tragedy and a source of anti semitism around the world. NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IT IS NOT ISRAEL OR ISRAELIS THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF ANTISEMITISM. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF THAT HAS NO PRIDE AND IDENTITY OF JUDAISM AND MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIAS THAT HATE JEWS IN GENERAL THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE ISRAEL DESTROYED THAT ARE THE CAUSE OF ANTISEMITISM. it is shameful that as a self proclaimed jew, you will make this linkage between what is necessaRY FOR ISRAEL'S SURVIVAL AND THE ANTISEMITISM THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AGAINST JEWS FOR CENTURIES EVEN BEFORE THE BORTH OF THE JEWISH STATE. you are shameful. absolutely degrading! hameed aboughaze, iranian
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