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Time to free ourselves
Yoel Meltzer
Published: 01.04.10, 23:00
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1. Article
Dave ,   Bs.Aires-Argentina   (04.02.10)
I agree totally with the autor, as his writting is based in the roots of the ethernal Faith of the Jewish People. Yoel Meltzer, Hashem bless you ! ! BIBI, READ THIS ARTICLE AND WAKE UP ! ! AM ISRAEL CHAI
2. greater truths were never spoken
ralph   (04.02.10)
3. Keep it simple stupid
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (04.02.10)
That's it! We don't need the Diaspora. We're the new Jews! We have everything under control here. We are the absolute reflection of the best of the Jewish values that Zionism assumed to create the Jewish state. We need no one's support, least of all a bunch of trembling old Galut Jews. There is simply nothing to fear. So tell me Yoel Meltzer - if all the above is true and it is all the logical extension of your argument. why are we behaving with such fear and paranoia?
4. therefore i conclude the bibi/booboo must go
Rina   (04.02.10)
he's been a tremblin' and a peein' his pants ever since Joe Bidet and Hitlery Cxunton started shrieking at him. his prevaricating character has really come to the forefront under pressure.
5. Let's be the gutsy little nation we were meant to be!
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.02.10)
Israel was meant to be the gutsy little nation of the Six Days War, Entebbe, the destruction of Iraqi and Syrian nukes. We were not meant to pathetically beg for Obama's approval. Or beg for the approval of the EU, UN or anybody else. This land is ours. Jerualem, Judea and Samaria are ours, have been ours for more than 3,500 years and always will be ours. Let's stop playing games. Let's stop acting like tresspassers on our own land. Let's be the gutsy little nation we were meant to be!
6. BUT JEWS DON'T WANNA BE FREE
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (04.02.10)
Jews are liars .We don't really believe nor want the Moshiach ,nor the Temple nor to be free.Far easier to make excuses and try to fool ourselves and others. And we don't really want to live in a country with only jews,Israel needs cheap slave labor i.e. palestinians.Israeli government can't even eat falafel without asking permission of Hillary and Obama.
7. WHY BE FREE WHEN YOU CAN BE
GIUSEPPE VERDI ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (04.02.10)
A HEBREW SLAVE?
8. diaspora mentality
Sy Weiner ,   USA   (04.02.10)
The writer points out an interesting phenomenon in Israel. We in the Diaspora are so imbued with this mentality that if attacked we write a letter rather than strike back directly. This is because we expect the host country to come to our rescue. The article makes this point to my satisfaction.
9. MOST BEAUTIFUL ARTICLE ON YNET IN A YEAR! Amen to author...
Nonghettominded ,   Lynn US   (04.02.10)
10. Diaspora mentality?
Ezra ,   USA   (04.02.10)
There are some in the diaspora who voted for Obama, but there are many who have not bended their knee to the gentiles. More Jews than this author is aware of. However, the message is correct. Israel belongs to Hashem, and we are his people. That will be forever and ever.
11. i agree
mark ,   new York   (04.02.10)
the mentality of many jews in the US is one of shame, many (not all) still have a ghetto mentality and feel the need to apologize for their success. They also feel like they have to apologize for Israel. I am proud to say I'm not one of them. A lot of that has to do with the time i spent in Israel...I don't apologize for who i am , I'm very proud of my achievements and those of my brothers in Israel The rest of the diaspora needs to step out of the ghettos and raise their heads up, and the less Israel leaders listen to the voices of these self hating jews the better they will be
12. am haaretz
avramele   (04.02.10)
i think I finally understand the phrase am haaretz. For some zionism is the liberation of Jewish creativity and wisdom --for others it brings out a 2000 year old stupidity and wish for martyrdom. oy gevalt - chaval aleinu!
13. 3. I need to think about this article for a while longer
(04.02.10)
before responding to it, but I think that u need to actually read the article before responding to it.
14. You believe Israel's actions are "just"? That's insane...
Michael Hess ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.02.10)
...the Obama administration will not be amused. Here's a clue. The reason that American Jews are turning their backs on Israel is because of the decades of violence that the state of Israel incessantly drives because of its land theft and resource theft OUTSIDE of Israel proper. Build all you want! Just build on YOUR land and not the Palestinians and the Syrian's land, and don't even think again about the Litani.
15. MEET THE GOLDBERG'S
HERCULE SAVINIEN ,   EL CAJON SD CA USA   (04.02.10)
MEET THE GOLDBERG'S [PART TWO] The Case of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, against Jews of Dual American Israeli Citizenship and the Lobbyist Group [AIPAC/AZC] or the questioning of their loyalty has not occurred in the now Israeli-American Empire due to the extent and control that [AIPAC/AZC] has; * The membership of [AIPAC/AZC] controls to much of the media, and use it as an effective weapon against all those that oppose its interests, Rahm Emanuel’s, younger brother Ari, after snatching up the William Morris Agency, is vying to become the next Hollywood strongman, says Kim Masters, Jerry Bruckheimer is another powerful dual citizen non-Israeli Jew Hollywood strongman and member of [AIPAC/AZC], and the list goes on. * The membership of [AIPAC/AZC] has used a traceable litany of [hit job] tactics, not limited to E-mail trail barrage of libelous distortions of the targets record, usual character assassination along with providing support and cover for real Mossad covert assassinations world wide, selective misquotes, willful record distortion, fabrications, falsehood, with utter disregard for the truth, and blackmail. [Now a Unity of One?] Well the question to both Jeff and Steve is/are the loyalties of one now one in the same as the other? Does the United States of America yet exist, or has it in fact been replaced with the Israeli-American Empire, are we now in the process of creating its new capital in Jerusalem, the Eternal City, are the interests of both entities completely and totally the same, are we now a Unity of One which we have already stated many times as a fact? If not Jeff and Steve then its time to start questioning the loyalty of someone, just were do the interests and loyalties of [AIPAC/AZC] and its membership lay. What is the difference between the Rosenberg’s undermining the security of the United States of America and/or [AIPAC/AZC] members blackmailing the Interests of the United States of America, if it does exist any longer, or are we now the Israeli-American Empire, bound together by the Unshakable Special Relationship, and it is a mute question? HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
16. joshua
Moshe ,   Paris France   (04.02.10)
Take note; The siege of Jericho . The Hebrews circled the Wall once a day for six days and on the seventh day they circled seven times,and as they shouted and blew the Rams horn, the walls came down and Jericho was attacked. Now is the time , atime for war, not to remenber the leaving of egypt, but to recall the War of Cannan.Read the Book of Jericho and claim the inheritance.
17. Horsefeathers
StevieT ,   USA   (04.02.10)
A lot of flowery rhetoric to justify the right wing agenda.
18. Beautifully stated. Israel: A Light Unto the Nations.
Daniel ,   Los Angeles, USA   (04.02.10)
19. hope to slowly get some insight in the meaning of passover
eporue ,   europe   (04.02.10)
...there, eventually the jewish people took an important, everything changing step. however, their two leaders needed quite some time to talk them into that. why did it take so long ? the general advantages of the journey were rather clear.... so, did it take so long, because the leaders had to convince their people - of the "YES, we can !". they had to convince them that they can be trusted, and are able to bring them to a better place ? not until the jewish people were confident about this personal strength and abilities of their leaders, they were ready to trust and eventually follow them. and todays passover ? what is the problem, that you are so afraid of moving to a better place ? is it the fact, that you dont trust your leaders ? do you think, with them the journey will inevitably end in a disaster ? would you go with someone else ?
20. Great article, thanks!!!!
Proud Israeli ,   Israel   (04.02.10)
Everyone should read this article. It should be on the front page of every Israeli and Jewish paper in the world.
21. "Diaspora mentality"
Sagi   (04.02.10)
will prevail as long as we have places like Bnei Brak and Mea Shearim and streets full of bearded penguins and people dressed like circus clowns and acting as such.This is a hangover from Diaspora times, it has zero to do with Judaism, and the sad thing about it is that it is encouraged by the authorities. Israel was established, and indeed the basic tenet of the early Zionist movements and organizations was,"to take the Diaspora out of the Jew'. This has to a large extent failed.
22. Dear Yoel Meltzer, author of this article:
Israeli 2   (04.02.10)
First of all, I agree with whatever you wrote but...when you wrote: The problem, of course, is not the hypocritical condemnations but rather the fact that some Israelis, particularly amongst our leaders, are actually unnerved by these ludicrous condemnations. What leaders are you refering to? We have the best team in so many years. You mean the leftist cowards with a ghetto mentality?
23. Diaspora trappings
SW ,   Caesarea   (04.02.10)
Amen
24. No Diaspora Mentality
Easy Assumptions ,   Diaspora   (04.02.10)
There is no diaspora mentality. Look at the facts, free yourself of the ideological baggage and you will be a freer Jew. Jews in the Diaspora have always felt free to be brutal, or to be human. There's no essential link to life in a Diaspora and submissive behaviour.
25. To # 15
Dave ,   Bs.Aires-Argentina   (04.02.10)
Hercule, your post is a exact copy of some chapters of the damn book "Mein Kampf" . . . Do yo know that book? DO YOU? As a matter of fact, this infamous bloody libel was the cornerstone to start the "Final Solution of the Jewish Problem" a.k.a. The Holocaust,- In this horrible Crime Against Humanity more than SIX MILLIONS of innocent people was murdered mercilessly. This fact reveals your profound hatred and twisted ideas regarding the Jewish People. . You'd better to meet with a Psychiatrist Dr., in order to try to cure your grave Mental Disease. AM ISRAEL CHAI
26. to #14
Jack ,   Virginia   (04.02.10)
The more Arabs killed the better for the rest of us. Kill the enemy. Let them go to their land. Mecca and Saudi arabia. Get them out of US.
27. Prey for a new Moses Israel
Craig ,   L.A., USA   (04.02.10)
Stand United Israel, and throw off the yoke of dependence on America...Give Obama the collective big-bird salute and defy him openly and boldly. .
28. Kohelet & Galut mentality
peter ,   amsterdam NL   (04.02.10)
1st: Who was Kohelet? Not Solomon, say most scholars. 2nd: Being confident Israëlis we indeed lost the Galut mentality of insecurity, depending on others to help us. Being sensitive to criticism and reactions from allies & friendly nations is something else. That is advisable to any nation while reserving the right to decide on their actions themselves according to merits and defend & explain them. Freedom comes with responsiblities, so I agree with Yoel Meltzer only sparingly. But on the 'mentality' issue of insecurity I broadly agree. Israëli politicians should be confident, while being sensitive & responsible. Decisive, moderate & knowledgable come to mind as character traits of a good politician.
29. Abstruse opinion or God's message?
Mikhael Shahor ,   NY/US & TA/IL   (04.02.10)
Yoel Meltzer states in his "opinion": "On a deeper level the 'Passover freedom refers to something else. After years of being slaves, we were commanded by God to take a lamb in broad daylight and to watch over it for a few days before actually slaughtering it and smearing its blood on the doorposts of our homes. We decided to follow God no matter what, regardless of any consequences that might have come about as a result of our bold behavior." And this is - what Meltzer (and God?) still expect Israeli (and best of all Diaspora) Jews as well to still do today? Well, adoni Meltzer, I'm not afraid of slaughtering what I need to eat for survival, no matter what God, Rabbis, Diaspora/Israeli Jews or "Goyim" say or mean. I'm not afraid of them. I'm only afraid by religious fundemantalist and/or Nazionist brothers and sisters, willing to slaughter lambs, Gazans, fellow Jews and "barbarian Goyim" to please what they think would please '"our" God on Pessach and on all other 364 days of the year: the blood of all the non-mosaic Universe. Meltzer does nothing else than telling the world that Jews truelly need(ed) to slaughter BEEINGS for Pessach in order to follow God's commadment .... ? Crazy, but this is symptomatic of the fundemantal perversion taking place in religious and far rightist nazionist groups, some of them being now in power in poor Israel. Meltzer, Ben Zion and Bibi Netanyahu, Lieberman: slaughterers praising God? Happy Passover ...
30. #28
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (04.02.10)
Obama knew how to bow down low and show respect to the King of Saudi Arabia, an apartheid country where half the population are slaves. Yet at every opportunity he humiliates Netanyahu, treating him like he was a black man in Alabama in the 1950s. Sensitivity to friends: yes, but Obama is no friend.
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