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Shun the anti-Semite
Anav Silverman
Published: 15.04.10, 00:00
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1. logically, would make sense to create jewish state in europe
palestinian ,   las vegas, nevada   (04.15.10)
since europeans brutalized the jews, why don't the jews make their nation on european land lost in war? that would be the logical thing to do, but to go to palestine and steal palestinian land is unacceptable and it is being fought on all levels.
2. Anti-semitism and anti-Zionism
Jerrold Cohen ,   Seal Beach, USA   (04.15.10)
There seems to be a common mistake of assuming that if the Holocaust is thrown into doubt then Israel can be attacked verbally. I don't see it at all. Israel treats the Palestinians barbarically. This barbaric treatment is thrown into stronger relief by the Jews' past history, particularly during the Holocaust. People who went through that should never treat Palestinians the way Israel treats the Palestinians, and yet Israeli racism and barbarism against Palestinians is an established pattern. It is as if the Jews learned nothing from their own Holocaust.
3. anti-Semitism is a narcotic
Steven ,   San Francisco   (04.15.10)
That Ahmed whatever his name is is constantly stoned out of his mind on. Why isn't this fiend liable to arrest when he ventures outside of his country? The charge: incitement to hate, mayhem and murder.
4. Even the arabs see dummyjad as a dangerous fool.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (04.15.10)
Our fool won't bomb him and if Israel doesn't bomb the iranian parliament with all the crazies in it, iran will have it's nukes. Only by stopping the crazies, can you stop iran, unless of course you nuke the population centers, then there is no one to attack Israel.
5. Ahamdinejad can speak for himself, but...
Persian CAT   (04.15.10)
this "reporter's" claim that "Iranian regime's anti-Israeli policy, is not only an expression of the hatred for Jews which is rooted in Iranian politics and society...", he wanders in the realm of bigotry and hate mongering himself. I challenge Anav Silverman to explain the fact that Iran is still homeland for the largest indigenous Jewish population outside of the Zionist state in the ME, while enjoying religious freedom including the right to directly elect a Jewish representative to the Iranian parliament. This so-called reporter has no clue about the Iranian society, otherwise he would not be so blatantly ignorant and biased against it. In this case there is no sunshine between the author and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
6. Here we go again..Anti semitism this and that...
Peter ,   Vienna-Austria   (04.15.10)
I have seen images of ahmadinejad shaking hands with jewish rabbis. I have seen documentaries(made by foreign media) showing how jews live in iran and how they are free to practice their religion(its on youtube). I also read an article on HAARETZ which was about israel offering iranian jews an amount of money to make aliay and start all over and them stating that their NATIONAL IDENTITIY IS NOT FOR SALE. Further more an article on the right wing news paper of Jerusalem post about tree iranian jewish boys who are now in israel and how they miss iran(the article was named WE STILL MISS IRAN) I don't see any form of anti-semitism in any of this. Do you?? Would you tell me that what I just explained is media fabrication and nothing but lies??
7. Ahmadinejad
Ron B. ,   Lod   (04.15.10)
Since many centuries megalomaniacs wanted and tried to eliminate the Jewish people. The idiot of Teheran dreams also to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jewish people. No chance. He will be gone and long forgotten while Israel and the Jewish people will still be there , living and prospering. Today, the only people who suffers from his megalomania are the Iranians. The maniac of Teheran is simply insane as explained at : http://xrl.us/bizzs
8. #6
Iranian Jew ,   LA   (04.15.10)
Yes, Peter! I'm an Iranian Jew. Leaving in Iran was not easy so I left. Just because someone takes the abuse and can't say much it does not mean it's ok. There are some Rabbis that think that have their own agenda and believe Jews should not return to Israel until Mesiah arrives. There are a very tiny minority and leave in very remote places in the world. There are also Iranian Jews in prison in Iran locked up on BS charges of spying. It is a scare tactic that Iranians use every time they feel like they have to show some muscle. To answer you in one sentence, leaving in Iran is even hard for moderate Muslims let alone Jews or Christian. Buy a ticket and go there. That will be the best way to find out.
9. #1
frank ,   Israel   (04.15.10)
logically it makes sense that since the jews have been in this area for much longer than islam has existed it seems very logical to have their country here. All you trying to change history and getting obama to actually believe the lies still does not make it true. Stay in Las Vegas, start screaming how that is arab land. Get enough liberals and europeans to believe it and las vegas becomes yours. You will even get a chance to destroy the hotels and opportunities just like here. It will be almost like "home".....
10. No 1
Harry ,   Sydney,Australai   (04.15.10)
Jews been in Israel while your ancestors did not even start feeding the monkeys. Get all together to an honest work and start building up your Palestine instead of playing up in LV Harry, Sydney
11. Biggest massacres of Jews b4 shoah was by Arababs
ben yaacov ,   herzliya il   (04.15.10)
Wow! Number 1 are You for f#$%ing real? And your metric is Holocaust so if it doesn't rise to the level of the Nazis, Arabs and Muslims get a pass and a pat on the back? 1300 years to choose from. Sadly there is no lack of misfortune Jews suffered in Arab countries and the wider Muslim world. Start with Mohammed and the MASSACRES of Jews that followed his conquest of the Arabian Peninsula. You reference Spain. The 'Golden Age' which historian Bernard Lewis along with many others has amply documented is a myth. You are suggesting we not only go back 700 years to find an example of Jewish Arab harmony, but also outside the Middle East. In Granada 5000 Jews were MASSACRED by Arab rioters because of rumours that a Jew attempted to have relations with a Muslim Arab woman. Sounds like a pogrom to me. That is only one of the delightful episodes from the 'Golden Age'. The great philosopher Rambam was forced to flee Spain. For the sake of Brevity I will limit myself to only the more outrageous events. This then is an incomplete picture and doesn't address the ordinary harshness Jews suffered on a daily basis. The Jizya. or tax Jews were forced to pay for being Jewish. It is no coincidence that the Jewish population remained static or shrank over the course of Islamic lands. In Morocco from the start of the Arab conquest during the time of Idris 1 tens of thousands of Jews were MASSACRED. The Almohads, in the mid 12th century MASSACRED over 200.000 Jews(a scale not matched by Europe until the Nazis). After the Almohads Jews trickled back in but when they were forced to flee Spain Jewish women were raped sold into slavery and the men killed or captured and also sold into slavery. This was all a long time ago I hear you say so lets fast forward... 19th Century, all well before Zionism and Israel were an Issue. 1805 Algiers Jews MASSACRED, 1828 Baghdad Jews MASSACRED, Damascus 1840, 1848, 1890 Jews MASSACRED, Beirut 1862, 1874 Jews MASSACRED, Dair al-Qamar 1847 Jews MASSACRED, Jerusalem 1847 Jews MASSACRED, Cairo 1844, 1890, 1901–02 Jews MASSACRED, Mansura 1877 Jews MASSACRED, Alexandria 1870, 1882, 1901–07 Jews MASSACRED, Port Said 1903, 1908 Jews MASSACRED, Damanhur 1871, 1873, 1877, 1891 Jews MASSACRED. Yemen was historically the worse as persecution there was continuous and not subject to the rise and fall that punctuated Jewish life in most of the Arab world. Just to be clear it was not only the Arab countries. Turkey Istanbul 1870, 1874 Jews MASSACRED, Buyukdere 1864 Jews MASSACRED, Kuzguncuk 1866 Jews MASSACRED, Eyub 1868 Jews MASSACRED, Edirne 1872 Jews MASSACRED, Izmir 1872, 1874 Jews MASSACRED. Sadly Iran was even worse than the Arab lands. Jewish history there is littered with forced conversions, expulsions from one city to another and Jews MASSACRED. In Tabriz 1830 Jews MASSACRED, same year forcible conversion of the Jews of Shiraz. 1839 Mashhad Jews MASSACRED and survivors were forcibly converted. 1867 Barfurush Jews MASSACRED.
12. # 9
Elias   (04.15.10)
you are wrong. Palestinians arab(Christians/Muslims) were here for at least 2000.
13. #1 palestinian, las vegas
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (04.15.10)
No problem. We send all Jews from the Middle East to Europe and all Muslims from Europe to the Middle East. Would that be a viable compromise for you?
14. #Persian Cat ....Meeoaw!
Mr Green ,   Manchester   (04.15.10)
Aside from Ah MAD inejads bigotry he is the worst thing that has befallen Iran He and his cronies are turning Iran into a Totalitarian Fascist Dictatorship where corruption, nepotism and treachery is rife Where up to 60% of Irans total GDP is now wasted on propping up Hamas, Hezbollah, Taleban, Shias in Iraq..., where a huge amount of Irans wealth is veing diverted into a few hands including that of Ah MAD inejad - (Iranians quite openly refer to him as Mr $ 100m) and the vast resources devoted to building a nuclear arsenal Ah MAD inejads mad so called Anti Zionist pronouncements are simply to divert peoples attention from the dire situation in Iran that daily gets worse. This Cat - is a pressure cooker with no valve..!
15. To Persian Cat #5
Yosi   (04.15.10)
If most of your society voted for a Holocaust denier, then yes, antisemitism have become common in Iranian society. Do you think antisemitism is defined only by killing a Jew without a reason? Islam is tolerant only when it governs, i dont care if Iran allows Jews to represent themselves in the parliament.
16. You need it !!
Salma ,   Palestine   (04.15.10)
who's enemey like Ahmadinejad, sure does not need to friends...This is the best, in order to destroy Iran, just as you have destroyed Iraq. :(
17. #5 Jews live as dhimmis in Iran
Cynthia ,   USA   (04.15.10)
Obviously the Jews of Iran don't feel too comfortable there. Prior to 1948, the Jewish population of Iran was estimated at 100,000 to 130,000. Now there are an estimated 11,000 to 20,000 Jews in Iran with one Jewish representative in government who must remain silent while the Holocaust denier Ahmadinejad threatens Israel. No one enjoys freedom in Iran under this repressive regime. I'd like to see Persian Cat explain why so many Jews left Iran. This was their country and heritage. Many were successful businessmen and professionals. What prompted this mass exodus? Does this LA Persian Cat transplant know much about Iranian society or is he repeating the same worn out statements.
18. palestinian @ 1, logically it would make sense to create
leo ,   usa   (04.15.10)
Jewish state where it originally was. That is where it is today. Alternative locations were offered and discussed more than 100 years ago and all of therm were refused.
19. #13
Muslims ,   SA   (04.15.10)
I like the idea of getting rid of 20 Million Muslims in Europe; they have brought only misery and contributed nothing.
20. i'm sorry
Soheil ,   Iran   (04.15.10)
Israel militating for his existence and even can not stable it to world people, you said about fourth military power in world, but you losed of Iranians weapons in lebanon. Lebanon is a little river of Iran Ocean, i think you should become first military power for gaming with Iran...
21. We must destroy Iran's nukes. Not shun Ahmadinejad.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.15.10)
You shun a boor at a party or a loud mouthed coworker. Not a Hitlerian maniac planning to commit nuclear genocide against Israel. We must destroy Iran's nukes. Not shun Ahmadinejad.
22. It would make sense to create "Palestine" in Neverland.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.15.10)
Since there never was a state called "Palestine" and nobody wanted one till Israel liberated Judea and Samaria in 1967, it makes sense to create a "Palestine" state in Neverland. What could be more compatible than two fictional states which never existed and never will? It makes sense on every level. The word "never" fits in perfectly.
23. #17 Cynthia, you are not getting my point...
Persian CAT   (04.15.10)
Obviously a lot of people don't feel "comfortable" there whether they are Jewish, Shieh, Christian, etc. just as a lot of Arabs/Muslims don't feel comfortable in Israel or in the US! That's not why I am saying the author of this article is a bigot and Iran hater. To answer your naive question, "so many" Jews left Iran for the same reason that "so many" people of other faiths, most of the Shieh Muslims, left Iran. They didn't want to live under the despotic theocratic Khomeinist regime. On the other hand the Jews who remained did this willingly in spite of the all the monetary "enticement" in the form of cash payments by the Zionist regime agents. Furthermore, the Iranian Jews and their rep in the parliament have NOT remained silent. Moris Motamed, the Jewish rep, wrote an open letter to Ahmadinejad pointing out his divisive remarks and his letter was published in the Iranian press. Bear in mind Iranian Jews can travel to Israel to visit their family members who live there, and they do. Also asking questions about the Holocaust and pointing out that the Holocaust industrialists are using it as an excuse for occupation and oppression, and racism is not a crime in Iran unlike in the countries where the crimes against the Jews REALLY happened. Iranians have a clean conscience when it comes to the Holocaust. THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!
24. #23 Estimated 85% of Jews left Iran
Cynthia ,   USA   (04.16.10)
Can you also say 85% of the Muslim population has left Iran? No, you cannot. This is a very significant number considering the history of these established Jewish communities in Iran. The majority of them used their own financial resources and left behind property, assets and established careers to escape to freedom. This "enticement" you speak of was not offered until 2007 and consisted of $5000-$10,000 that would make leaving Iran financially risky. And you can imagine Iranian Jews not outwardly embracing this offer since Jews have been executed in Iran for alleged associations or friendship with Israel. Considering the Regime's paranoia toward anything related to Israel, the fact that some 200 Jews left under this program is quite remarkable. The author is spot on regarding the evil Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial and mal intentions. Even the Arab world condemned Ahmadinejad for this hateful event. No more microphones for Ahmadinejad.
25. The Iranian president is part of the UNHOLY TRINITY:
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.16.10)
Classic anti-Semites / "Progressive" anti-Jewish Racists / 7th Century Based Islamists. The Trinity, by way of attempting to adhere to PC language, has substituted yesteryear's the Jew's place in society with Israel; and yesteryear's role of Judaism in people's minds with Zionism. Thus, enabling to demonize and de-legitimize the nation-state of the Jewish people and its non-violent national liberation movement, Zionism, while expecting of Israel to meet standards not expected of any other country. Sadly, some of our own young people, due to naivete and shallow knowledge and understanding of the history of their own people, have been enlisted to the ant-Israel / ant-Jewish activities; something that Jewish community and educational leaders abroad should consider seriously!
26. #11 Ben Yaacov
Logic ,   Israel   (04.16.10)
Why are you not counting the Khmelnytsky and White Russian pogroms in Ukraine?
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