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Refuting the ‘Linkage Theory’
Yoram Ettinger
Published: 15.04.10, 10:20
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1. Leftist idiots dont understand Islam!
Leftists = IDIOTS   (04.15.10)
2. Linkage theory
NYC Girl   (04.15.10)
People in this country have to get it through their heads that even if Israel were to disappear off the map tomorrow, it will not remove the threat of radical Islam and it's desire to restore the Caliphate...something which pre-dated the establishment of the State of Israel by several centuries.
3. Only in the mind of Barack (Barakeh, in Arabic) Hussein ...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.15.10)
... Obama there is a linkage. I wonder, why does he think so...??
4. Rightist idiots dont understand America!
Rightists = FREYERS   (04.15.10)
(Or Islam. Or Judaism, for that matter.) Time for heart of Israeli center to wake up! "Ambassador" Ettinger doesnt care about Iran -- he cares about hilltop youth that spit on the IDF! Unless we stop these anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist punks (YES, the settlers are DESTROYING Zionism, with Israeli right following them like FREYERS!) and their spokepeople like Yoram Ettinger, Israel will soon become the joke of the world!
5. Linkage
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (04.15.10)
The Arab desire to destroy Israel and Iran comes from the belief in their own racial superiority. Minorities in Arab countries are mistreated and the Arab nations have military conflicts on all their borders. To control oil, the British and later the Americans did their best to weaken Arab enemies: attacking the Ottoman empire, destabilizing Iran and helping the Arabs in their war against Israel. Both Israel and Iran are considered enemies by the Arabs. They will demand that the Americans destroy both Israel and Iran, and later Turkey .
6. Bravo..'Linkage' is liberal delusion
Craig ,   L.A., USA   (04.15.10)
Liberals appear to grasp ahold of about any theory, notion, or movement which affords them the justification to maintain their delusion. Why is it so many of the liberal persuasion can't accept that much of the world, specifically the Islamics of the world, have a base belief set, religously sourced, which favors domination by violence - and literal extermination of the Jews? Wake up liberal Jews of Israel and America...you must face the reality you are dealt and stop striving to slay illusional dragons in hopes of achieving your desire of peaceful coexistence; It isn't going to happen - you only weaken and endanger Israel. Israelis...you must stand united. In truth, you must renounce liberal foolishness and face reality - time is short. 2nd Chronicles 7:14...your own Scripture - Humble yourselves and Seek your God and He will respond. May God Bless and Deliver Israel
7. the linkage exist befor and after
asi   (04.15.10)
Befor it will make the sanctions affective when the Arabs fully cooperate and give US the options to make what it necessary to do after and i guess Iran will have the nuke and as you know they are nuts you will forced to do what the Iranians want not what the US gently ask these days the word will be "humiliation" by Iran
8. Nuclear Deterrence
Wespe ,   Canada   (04.15.10)
Questionable argument regarding Iranian desire to 'dominate' the Gulf. The mitigating factor is nuclear deterrence. US warheads are stationing in Turkey and if the Gulf states felt threatened they would either invite the Americans in or develop their own deterrence. This presupposes that the Iranians are developing nuclear weapons which itself is questionable given US military intelligence capability. The linkage is a ruse to maintain the occupation and the Israeli policy of ambiguity regarding its borders. Without Iran, the Israeli government would need some other boogey-man to maintain the status quo.
9. Obama's is an enemy of Israel so his theories are hostile.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.15.10)
An ever growing majority of Americans realize that Obama is no friend of America. From his words and actions, it looks like Obama's ultimate goal is to deliver America to the Moslems he's always bowing to. Obama's attitude towards Israel is unremitting hostility. His treatment of Israel is disgusting. One can only imagine how he'd treat Israel if vast numbers of Americans didn't strongly protest his evil actions. Because Obama is an enemy of Israel, his theories (including linking Iran's genocidal Mad Mullahs with Israeli concessions to "Palestinians") are hostile to Israel. That's the real linkage. Hostile, evil U.S. president linked to hostile, evil actions by the president.
10. Ettinger- get in the knesset, clobber meretz
Jae ,   Lynn US   (04.15.10)
11. Linkage?
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (04.15.10)
The Iranians do not give a damn about the Palestinians. Or why is all the welfare for the Palestinians only coming from Western countries?
12. YES - LINKAGE THEORY IS AN ERROR !!!.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (04.15.10)
BUT - IRANS NUCLEARISATION IS INDEED LINKED TO ISRAEL, TO PREVENT ISRAEL FROM NUCING IRAN, WHEN COMING FOR ISRAEL. Iran’s nuclear drive aims at attaining a mega-goal, which has guided Iran since the 7th century - domination of the Persian Gulf. The role of nuclear capability would be to deter and harm mega-obstacles to the mega-goal: The USA and NATO, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. The tenacious pursuit of their nuclear effort is independent of Israel – which is not an actor in the Persian Gulf arena – and of the Palestinian issue. Is it possible that a less than 100 year old (Arab-Israeli) conflict be a root cause of a 1,400 year old goal? THIS STATEMENT OF YOURS IS ONLY PARTLY TRUE, BECAUSE IRANS MAIN GOAL IS THE LIBERATION OF JERUSALEM , FOR THE SHIAISLAMIC AL-MAHDIs SAKE, AND YOUR STATEMEN COME ONLY IN AS SECOND. AND YES - THE ARABS WILL SERTAINLY BEGIN AN ARMES RACE AGAINST IRAN BECAUSE OF FEAR. THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE HAS NOTHING TO DO IN THIS MATTER AS SUCH, SHIA ISLAMIC IRAN WOULD SERTAINLY LIKE TO AVENGE, THE SAUDI BLOODBATH ON THE SHIAMUSLIMS IN THE 7th CENTURY, BUT ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, DANIEL CHAPTER 11:21 - AND FURTHER, RECORDS THE SHIAISLAMIC IRAK AS DOING THIS. GOD BLESS YOU SIR !!!. Arn-
13. #12
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (04.15.10)
We disagree. The Persians and Jews have always been friends starting with Cyrus and through the Shah Since the 20th century, both the Persians and the Jews are victims of the British (and later Americans) who try to subjugate the people of the Middle-East under Arab rule. Once Iran rules the Persian Gulf and dominates the Arabs, why should they attack Israel? The Persians will be rich and would gain from an alliance with Israel. In a war, Israel would lose but would cause the Persians terrible damage.
14. TALKBACK NUMBER 13.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (04.16.10)
We disagree. The Persians and Jews have always been friends starting with Cyrus and through the Shah COULD BEE BUT - JEHOVAH HAS SAID SOME 2500 YEARS AGO THAT IRAN/PERSIA WILL ATACK ISRAEL - EZEKIEL CHAPTER 38:5 - THUS - Ezekiel 38 1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2"Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3and say, `Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4And I will turn thee back and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armor, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords; 5Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them, all of them with shield and helmet; WHOM DO KNOW THE IRANIANS/PERSIANS BEST ??? - YOU OR JEHOVAH ???. FURTHER - Since the 20th century, both the Persians and the Jews are victims of the British (and later Americans) who try to subjugate the people of the Middle-East under Arab rule. SO THIS WILL MAKE IRAN AND ISRAEL FRIENDS YOU THINK ??? THE LEADERSHIP OF IRAN SEEMS TO CONTRADICT YOUR STATEMENT. Once Iran rules the Persian Gulf and dominates the Arabs, why should they attack Israel? The Persians will be rich and would gain from an alliance with Israel. THE ARABS WILL COVENANT THEMSELVES WITH THE EU - 13Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, "Art thou come to despoil us? Hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? IRAN WILL NEVER RULE THE PERSIAN GULF AND WILL NEVER BE IN ALLIANCE WITH ISRAEL. THE ARABS ACCORDING TO THE KORAN WILL GIVE GOG AND MAGOG FREE PASSAGE, WHEN IRAN/PERIA IS UNDER THEIR RULE AND NOT THEIR OWN LORD AND MASTER, In a war, Israel would lose but would cause the Persians terrible damage. ISRAEL WILL LOOSE NO WAR !!!. Israel Israeli , Tel Aviv (04.15.10) COULD BEE. Arn.
15. Linkage is correct - Obama 1st take out Iran
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (04.16.10)
The theory of linkage is correct, just shown backwards most times. Obama take out Iran's ability to make all weapons so they do not threaten Israel directly or indirectly. Then Israel will be able to make peace with the Palestinians and the Lebanese.
16. Another bizarre missive from Israelis
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (04.16.10)
There is no linkage goes the new Israeli line. There is no linkage between stealing Palestinian land and the hatred felt by victims of these activities. There is no linkage between the Iranian nuclear program and the fact that Israel has hundreds of such weapons and has refused to sign the NPT. Everything happens in a vacuum and is completely unrelated. Therefore, whatever consequences your actions engender is because of antisemtitism i.e. who you 'are' rather than what you do.. This seems to be the standard Israeli mindset. It is intellectually indefensible, illogical and morally bankrupt yet, to Israelis, the myth is far more comforting than reality.
17. #16 Mike. Judea & Samaria belong to Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.16.10)
#15 Mike. Israel is not "stealing" anyone's land. We are claiming land which has belonged to the Jewish people for more than 3,500 years. Far longer than Europeans or Americans possessed the land on which they now dwell.
18. Why you are wrong in 43 words.
Michael Hess ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.16.10)
When Israel finally abides by the rule of law, the other countries and actors, including Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah etc who use Israel's US sponsored impunity against it and as a cloak for their own human rights violations they will lose their most potent weapon.
19. no sir.
....... ,   .........   (04.16.10)
it is not linkage nor theory ..it is an atampt to escape from a trap .......
20. Chaim, Israel was created in 1948 and not before...
Michael Hess ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.17.10)
...and no, even Israel's High Court has ruled that the West Bank is held under "belligerent" occupation do your own High Court proves you wrong. You ca no more claim land from thousands of years ago then I as an American Indian can. Suck it up and grow up. You ain't getting the West Bank or East Jerusalem and there's nothing you can do about it.
21. # 20
Birdi ,   Israel   (04.17.10)
Cherokee, dont be so sure of that. Jerusalem will never be divided.,the people of Israel will never agree to that. Jerusalem is worth more to the Jews than you know & if we need to fight & shed blood for it, we shall.
22. birdi, where's that official map sweetie?
Michael Hess ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.17.10)
Come on, pony up the map. President Obama is talking the gloves off. There will be a map birdi, and there's nothing you can do about it. The haters are just going to have to sit down and shut the hell up.
23. # 22
Birdi ,   Israel   (04.17.10)
cherokee I repeat, Obama cannot force Israel to do anything she refuses to do. What cant you understand about that? Obama can take his gloves off, his hands will still be black. You think by threatening us in the name of your Obama we will be your little puppy dogs? Oh have you got loads to learn. Its about time you shut the hell up as you are a very long playing broken record. btw quit calling me sweetie.
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