And let me see you publish this article anywhere outside Stormfront.

and the rest of the area can take 300,000 Arabs

refuse and will all likely continue to refuse to accept Israel's rule over the Arab neighborhoods of the city and the villages surrounding it. Therefore, Israel must stake out that which is essential for our national interests from a defensive as well as historic and that includes the Old City of Jerusalem, its immediate surrounding and sites such as the Mount of Olives and the City of David. The rest should not now and will not be in the future part of sovereign Israel, with all the consequences involved. I am sure the Arabs of the eastern part of the city will not like it, but this is what others will, so be it.

I can't imagine that anyone would accept Israel re-routing the fence and putting those neighborhoods out of the city. Practically speaking anyplace outside of Israeli rule is also no longer an area where it's residents can travel freely to the rest of the city as long as the PA continues as a terror state hostile to Israel. This would effectively deprive all these people of their means of support too.

already exists in Abu-Dis.

!00% on the money. Why has it taken so long for the facts on the ground to permeate through to the grey cells of the Israeli government. Israel you can only depend upon your own strength and perhaps a small amount of moral support from the few realists left in the world. The West is totally immersed in its own moral turpitude and swaps indecision for so called diplomatic efforts for peace.

Re: Time to say goodbye - by Guy Bechor bechor should at least get his facts right before proposing to annul Israel's responsibility for East Jerusalem residents. E. Jerusalem residents are discriminated against in every way: they cannot vote in national elections and they pay contributions for the benefits they receive, health care, national insurance and, possibly, unemployment insurance. East Jerusalemites pay arnona at the same rate as West Jerusalem residents, but the services provided them by the municipaliy are in no way comparable to those of West Jerusalem. More than this, an East Jerusalem resident can lose her/his status on a variety of transparent pretexts, having to prove that Jerusalem is their 'center of life'; an extended visit abroad, a stay with a sick parent outside the city can result in a loss of Jerusalem residency. Far from hundreds of Palestinians entering the city, any West Banker (Gazans don't even come into it!), even those married to residents must go through 7 circles of Hell to try and acquire residency. Its clear that Bechor is simply expressing his own desire to be rid of Palestinians. However, Israel is in a Catch 22: Either Jerusalem is a united city and all its residents are therefore its responsibility, or it is not, and in that case, what the hell is the fuss about the eternal united capital etc... As to whether E Jerusalemites only long to be free of the Israel yoke, how many of those residents has Bechor consulted ? I suspect if he did, he might find some very surprising answers. But, then, his agenda is simply racist incitement. Nasty...

and want to be Palestinian, they are not Israeli Arabs - that is totally different thing. By giving them what they want, Palestinian status and move the issue in that direction - which it will be anyway one day soon. It can only be cheered as progress. Of course they would have to have Jerusalem status as they are residents of Jerusalem but responsibility for their welfare will fall under the PA and no longer Israel. This will also mean that Israel will have little say in East Jerusalem development (as long as it does not fringe on Israel's side of the law and as we are so tiny a place that will also take great faith) but it is possible. East Jerusalem Arab residents would have have no cause for complaint and have their dream but they cannot have their cake and eat it. Being fair means they have to be so too.

See Wikipedia for the sources: In December 2007, an official Census conducted by the Palestinian Authority found that the Palestinian Arab population of the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) was 2,345,000. However, the World Bank and American-Israeli Demographic Research Group identified a 32% discrepancy between first-grade enrollment statistics documented by the Palestinian Ministry of Education and Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS)’ 2007 projections, with questions also raised about the PCBS’ growth assumptions for the period 1997-2003. Several media outlets have suggested that PCBS data inflate the 2007 census figures by 30%, contradicting both the Palestinian Ministry of Education’s enrollment data and actual emigration growth documented by Israeli Border Police, which in 2006 observed 25,000 Palestinian Arabs emigrating from Palestinian Authority-controlled territories. These data sets suggest that the Palestinian Arab population of the West Bank in 2007 was approximately 1.5 million. Unemployment, economic uncertainty, and UN family planning campaigns will continue reducing the PA population growth rate. One can anticipate that emigration would continue under an independent Palestinian Arab state as well, since citizens would lose their UNRWA food and living stipends. Abbas and his fellow soapbox-riders understand that the money's not in independence, but in remaining a charity case, and that melodrama requires "cooking the books" on population figures. This was the formula Arafat used to siphon billions of dollars into his now-misplaced bank accounts.

Sounds good. Now wake-up and go to work, your nap (and dreams) are over for today. This is sensible and would bring about a what do we do now reaction to the Fakenstianians. However, it is also workable, so you'll have to find people willing to go for it, which may be a rough task..

...so how can give up something it never had in the first place? Don’t ye get it?! If you ‘shun the world’ the world will never recognize any ‘unilateral action’ taken by Israel regarding the illegally occupied Palestinian land that Israel is trying so hard to steal. It is time to wake up from this Zionist pipedream and join the rest of the world in something we call ‘Reality’.

Did you see the article entitled: "Israel's Declining Sperm Quality Tied to Depleted Uranium Exposure" as reported back in May 2009? In part: “A study by Dr. Ronit Haimov-Kokhman released in November, showed a 40-percent decline in the concentration of sperm cells in Israeli sperm donors from 2004 to 2008, compared to samples taken between 1995 and 1999.” I trust you are factoring this into your hasbara...

excellent article,its time to get rid of this huge financial burden.

I didn’t know that this writer also contributed to Stormfront as well, this puts things in a new light for me...

Sounds like Gaza II. In other words, get out to save money, give it up for nothing in exchange, and then spend a billion or two for military incursions to try to stem rockets.

When Jew haters cannot manufacture any logical or rational argument theyy either accuse the Jews of what they themselves are guilty of or call Jews racists. The fact is that Arabs in Jerusalem the undivided Capitol of Israel should receive no support from the state. Additionally if they are not able to use the social and infrastructure services Israel generously provides, they would then be perhaps happier in Gaza.

as it was never unified under israeli control

Is Mr. Bechor suggesting that annexing "east" Jerusalem, but for the Old City was a mistake? Or is he stating that enfranchising the Arab residents of east Jerusalem was a mistake? While I can support the later assertion, I cannot support the former. I would like to see Israel annex Judea and Samaria. I would not like to see The Arab residents in these territories must NOT be enfranchised; that is made voting citizens of Israel like the Arabs on the other side of the green line; in Haifa, Tel Aviv, etc. Unless it can be proven a non-Jewish resident is a 100% loyal citizen - a very difficult standard - he or she should not be granted citizenship. One does not grant citizenship to an enemy populace. America didn't.

I have to agree with the person who suggested switching the words "Arab" with "Jew" in this article and see how it sounds then.

...and Israel will bear full responsibility for the Palestinians there until that ends. By depriving them of services while still under occupation, Israel will be committing even more crimes against humanity. So go ahead, it will make it that much quicker. The world is not going to let this insanity continue in Israel. Talk about digging a deeper and deeper hole...

...closely intertwined for millennia. So you just sound like a fool when you childishly write "fakestinians", a made up childish word that implies you are an idiot. But not just any idiot. Because even an idiot can be dangerous. You do no favor to Israel in enabling the abused to becomes the abusers. You are an enabler of race hatred and xenophobia. That is pure evil Bob. Your type of thinking leads to that which has been said will happen Never Again, except now the abused is directing it towards the indigenous population, intertwined together going back thousands of years. Ya can't hide from the science Bob.

Obama needs to read the book of Daniel to find out that he and/or one of his anti-semitic co-horts will sign a 7 year peace deal with Israel, then he will break the peace deal 3.5 years into it, and Russia will invade Israel halfway through the tribulation. Wake up to prophesy, world.

there are Palestinians, among them those who live in East Jerusalem, who have title deeds to homes in Talbieh, Old Katamon, Baka, and other neighborhoods in the western part of the city. Baka was established in the 1920s when wealthy Muslim and Christians families decided to build homes in that attractive valley – Baka – and beautiful private homes they were. Virtually entire Christian and Muslim population of Jerusalem was forcefully expelled from the Jewish occupation zone in 1948.

The parallelism of Mecca and Jerusalem offers the basis of a solution, as Sheikh Palazzi wisely writes: Separation in directions of prayer is a mean to decrease possible rivalries in management of Holy Places. For those who receive from Allah the gift of equilibrium and the attitude to reconciliation, it should not be difficult to conclude that, as no one is willing to deny Muslims a complete sovereignty over Mecca, from an Islamic point of view -notwithstanding opposite, groundless propagandistic claims - there is not any sound theological reason to deny an equal right of Jews over Jerusalem. To back up this view, Palazzi notes several striking and oft-neglected passages in the Qur'an . One of them (5:22-23) quotes Moses instructing the Jews to "enter the Holy Land (al-ard al-muqaddisa) which God has assigned unto you." Another verse (17:104) has God Himself making the same point: "We said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Land.'" Qur'an 2:145 states that the Jews "would not follow your qibla; nor are you going to follow their qibla," indicating a recognition of the Temple Mount as the Jews' direction of prayer. "God himself is saying that Jerusalem is as important to Jews as Mecca is to Moslems," Palazzi concludes. His analysis has a clear and sensible implication: just as Muslims rule an undivided Mecca, Jews should rule an undivided Jerusalem. More information at : http://xrl.us/bjheo

I visit Jerusalem every year and the difference between the Arab East and Jewish West is quite clear, certainly if one moves a little further away from the area immediately around the Old City. Counting the number of potholes in the street is a pretty good method of identifying the Arab neighbourhoods. Bechor disingenously left out the systemic discrimination in allocation of resources as well as the fact that Arab Jerusalemites too have to pay the same amount of taxes as their Jewish counterparts in West Jerusalem. This alone makes Bechor a bigot and a fraud and - as you rightly pointed out - a racist inciter. By the way, Bechor, the Old City is full of Palestinian Arabs. It is an Arab city within a city with a Jewish quarter. Why leave the Old City out or at least the Old City minus the Jewish quarter and the Western Wall. Annexing that was just as illegal as annexing the other parts of East Jerusalem. The only form of a justice I see is for East-Jerusalem, including the Old City, to become the capital of Palestine. Or the whole of Jerusalem should become a unified capital of both Palestine and Israel with the implication of course that Palestinians from 1948 can return to the Western part of the city and reclaim their lost property there. Any Jews who lost property on the Eastern side should likewise be able to claim it as well or choose compensation. This is basic evenhandedness. But I suspect that the shallow Mr Guy Bechor is not interested in that.

First, an anecdote: In early 1999, the OSCE fabricated a massacre of Kosovar Albanians by Serbs, with only a few media watchdogs acknowledging that corpses found at Racak had been moved into place, and most other media outlets willfully ignoring KLA attacks on Serb police. Globally, people refused to believe that the poor, “too-trusting” Kosovars (read Albanians) might dupe the world into netting them a second homeland, expelling the Serbs from the Serbs’ ancestral homeland, and thus failed to investigate the alleged massacre. Now there are two Albanias, and one in the works for Macedonia, united in human trafficking, smuggling, and highland-tribe blood vendettas. Now Yehudit Keshet is trying to do the same thing against Israel on West Bank Arabs' behalf, with her "Machsom Watch," which spews almost as much falsehood as the Ma'an news agency. This group willfully ignores the reduced checkpoint wait time for West Bank Arabs and vastly improved security for Israeli Arabs afforded them by the West Bank security barrier, while remaining curiously mum about the murders perpetrated by Islamic Jihad and Hamas against Israeli citizens when checkpoints and roadblocks are removed. (After all, those dead Israelis are not UK passport holders like Yehudit, and she could give a damn about their abilities to live a dignified life.) We'll wait eagerly for Yehudit to provide evidence of the Jim Crow-esque, unequal municipal services provided to East Jerusalem Arab arnona-payers.

of East Jerusalem. End the Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem first, and then let Palestinians of East Jerusalem choose what side they're on, and what benefits they'll get.

Divesting Jewish Jerusalem of 250000 Palestinians is certainly in Israel's best interests. I agree 100% with Bechor, and I reached the same conclusion a long time ago. Moreover, the Palestinian neighborhoods should consolidate to become Al Kuds, their name for this city. Israeli supervision might need to continue, as in other parts of the West Bank, for security reasons. The proximity of some Pal population centers to Jewish ones could make the demarcation a bit tricky, though.