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Haredi charged with burning Israeli flag on Memorial Day
Shmulik Grossman
Published: 19.04.10, 16:54
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31. Eli the Liberal idiot
Eyal ,   USA   (04.19.10)
Shut your mouth you stupid left wing idiot. I also agree with free speech, but to completely try to desecrate a flag of a country you live in, is beyond free speech. It's people like you that voted for Hussain Obama, the same people that wouldn't give a damn if Iran launched a Nuclear bomb at Israel and killed another 6 million Jews?
32. Chareidi Society
Gidon ,   Israel, Jerusalem   (04.19.10)
Chareidi Society doe not condone these actions and it is entirely inapropriate even though they may disagree with eleents in Israel
33. 15 - Butt out! you don't have to deal with them
Talula ,   Israel   (04.19.10)
Besides, it's my opinion and belief that they are all bacteria. I wasn't speaking for anyone else LOOOZAH!!!!!!
34. #25 Actually got nothing to do with free speech
Talula ,   Israel   (04.19.10)
But everything to do with respecting your country and its flag. Drop this asshole in the middle of Schunat HaTikva, in Tel Aviv and tell them he had the right to burn and stamp on the Israeli flag. He'd be dead in two seconds flat. And rightfully so.
35. Just burn a bible in their neighbourhood
Moshe ,   Israel   (04.19.10)
An eye for an eye. Just burn one of their holy books in front of them. If they can't take it, they shouldn't be burning Israeli flags.
36. the flag says nothing but man's stupid vanity
avi   (04.19.10)
the only symbol of the jewish people is G;d and no one can burn Him ...
37. 18 Talula - and your point?
Rambam ,   Jerusalem   (04.19.10)
Do you know who they were, what they were actually celiberating and how they were celiberating? And who exaclty were enjoying barbacues on the Tel Aviv beach and enjoying swims and sailing boats then?
38. NK needs some huge loyal Jews at their rallys to educate
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (04.19.10)
them on how to behave properly. This past weekend the nazi skinheads demonstrated in LA. Two of them were beat to hell when they wandered into the counter protesters and mocked them. The police came before they would have been killed but I doubt they will try that again.
39. No 2 is right, drop them in Iran or another Muslim country
AK   (04.19.10)
They don't deserve in Israel. They are dhimmis at heart,
40. Secular Leftwing Israelis don't stand either
Shlomo Silverstein ,   Maale Adumim   (04.19.10)
When I wonder will YNET report on the many secular Leftwing Israelis who carry on walking and chatting as the sirens ring out. I witnessed a group of late teens/early twenties Israeli students walking past Binyamei HaOma today, heads held high in defiance, walking past rows of taxi drivers standing to attention. Last year I was on a bus on Erev Yom Hazicharon when the sirens went. The bus stopped and people stood. Except that is for a group of Israeli students at the back who remained sitting, listening to music, pretending not to notice the siren.
41. Would thet dare arrest a arab that burned a Zionist Flag
Norman   (04.19.10)
I agree that it is wrong to burn the flag and upset so many people. But why is the fear to arrest an arab. Same goes for building in Jerusalem and the WB why are arabs allowd to build illregal houses with no consequences and Jews are punished rite away. The Zionist have a inferiority complex so may be after all its is good he burnt the flag to make us see our weakness.
42. You call this news? It is an annual event
Danny ,   Har Nof   (04.19.10)
and is boring. \Maybe if Ynet etc. did not provide them with the free publicity that they seek, they might get discouraged and stop doing it. All you TBers that get upset over this foolishness feed the NK. Best thing is to ignore them and they will get frustrated. How many NK families do you think there are? Well for your information there are not even 100
43. free what?
Lisa   (04.19.10)
anybody who calls this 'free speech' ? I see this catchphrase is used by Americans here- burning a countries flag is considered a crime- including in the US- remember the hippies burning flags? they spent a long time in the hoosegow and had plenty of time to think about it. Israelis burning flags are traitors just like flag burners in any other country. By the way: what does 'alleged' mean? Did he or did he not burn a flag? did the reporter dream it or make it up?
44. #4 - Does his actions not trample the rights of others?
William ,   Israel   (04.19.10)
While burning a flag itself may not be against the law, doesn't the howling, the cursing, the basic attack on sensibilities of the public at large during a moment of silence to honor the dead steal the rights of those families who suffer? If it was done any other time during the day, the answer would be more fuzzy but these vermin chose the exact moment of silence. At which point does the rights of one person's freedom of speech become negated when the rights of others is taken away? In a real democracy, EVERYONE is respected...in a Leftist world, only those they approve of should be respected. Did I get that right?
45. Kick them OUT
mark ,   New Rochelle USA   (04.19.10)
This traitorous swine, masquerading as jews, should we thrown out of Israel immediately
46. The Golden Mean
Adam Neira ,   Melbourne, Australia   (04.20.10)
This act was insensitive in the extreme. Many people have died since 1948 defending the State of Israel. Neturei Karta and their ilk should adopt the following motto. As Maimonides explained "The Golden Mean" is the best option. "You've got to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, hold onto the affirmative and don't mess with Mr.In-Between !" - Johnny Mercer, 1942
47. Flag
Dave ,   Bs.Aires-Argentina   (04.20.10)
Forget this f***ng Free Speech ! ! The flag represents the identity and the soul of the country that it belongs to. Burning a flag is like burning an entire country, his people and his principles. In my country, Argentina,if you burn the flag, you will receive a long time in jail and a fine. This act is regarded as a type of TREASON to the country where you are living. Arrest this idiot and evil people, try and condemn them for HIGH TREASON, and expatriate them (Send them to Iran, Gaza or Saudi Arabia,and see how they will be treated . . ). And making fun of the fallen people is indeed a very shameful sin ! ! AM ISRAEL CHAI HAPPY BIRTHDAY ISRAEL
48. The Naturei Karta - Traitors.
Spencer ,   New York   (04.20.10)
Don't send these bastards to anywhere that they'll be welcome. Imprison them for a long, long time. They are vermin!
49. respect trumps free speech
Gavid ,   NJ USA   (04.20.10)
the monkey dissed us. some years ago we stumbled upon palistinian day in NYC as it ended and sure enough a monkey was marching with the enemy. what about the monkeys that went to the tehrananti holocaust conference? sick monkeys
50. neturei karta
a ash ,   nyc.ny   (04.20.10)
deport him--
51. In the name of those who died in Ma'arachot Israel and
Meir Elazar   (04.20.10)
Holocaust. In the name of all of those who lost loved ones in the Wars of Independence and Survival of Israel, I would like to see some of the Netura Kartei burn a flag in front of members of Golani, Duvdevanim, Tzanchanim, etc. and see what would be left of them after they were severely beaten by those who put their lives on the line for Israel and the Jewish people in the face of this assault on our existence and all we believe in. One might expect this from our enemies but our Rabbis added the prayer to the Shemoneh Estreh regarding traitors. I can even understand those in concentration camps who were forced to do unthinkable deeds to survive. But for someone to pretend to be a Jews and openly advocate the destruction of Israel, there are no words. They must be totally excommunicated and destroyed where ever the reside.
52. # 44 and others
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (04.20.10)
This person did not trample on anyone (at least as reported) so if he choose this moment of silence to protest, what harm did he do? Also a flag is merely a symbol. He did not trample on a person, merely a piece of colored cloth. Had he gone to a family commemoration and started to harass a family, I can understand arresting him. But for merely burning a flag, this is a bit extreme. Also, calling him 'vermin' exposes that you are prejudiced. We need people who can think clearly, beyond the box, not those who are in the box and think like the masses to direct this country in order to get it out of the mess that it is in.
53. #9 We'll give 'em to you gladly
PG 63 ,   isarel   (04.20.10)
if you can bear the smell of them and take the rest of their club, the Blaunik and kamknickers and those ugly non artists on tv with their fake laughter and baring their huge ugly teeth, pretending to guffaw with laughter at each other's non existent jokes. Net kart, shloch achshav blau punkt and kam knickers, and the rest of the non flag brigade, please take 'em all, and we'll truly have a Chag Atzmaut 62 Sameach and mnay more l'tiferet Medinat Yisrael.
54. 25
Rosie   (04.20.10)
Burning the flag of State is not SAYING something. It's a hostile ACT.
55. What's really behind all this
Zvika ,   Jerusalem   (04.20.10)
Some observant Jews feel the siren/ moment of silence is a non-Jewish practice that does nothing to honor the souls of the fallen.It certainly has no basis in Jewish history or tradition. Praying and Torah study is the traditional way to honor those no longer among us. Some people claim they 'rest' on Shabbat by having a BBQ or by going to the beach. So that view of 'Shabbat observance' is accepted by many, but if someone feels the State's remembrance of its fallen is not Jewish, well, that's not acceptable. The real reason for this outrage against haredim who don't celebrate can be understood by a remark made to Ben Gurion in 1949, that establishing Yom Ha'atzmaut on 5 Iyar instead of May 14 was an astute move - investing it with a Jewish aura. Ben Gurion replied it will only be a real Jewish holiday when the Jews in Mea Shearim wear their streimels and celebrate . . . .
56. @ #14
Bicolorski ,   IL   (04.20.10)
who said to #4 : '"I'd love to see what would happen to you if you burnt the American flag. et's see where free speech will get you. Asswipe. " In US is legal to burn the flag. In its 5-4 ruling in Texas v. Johnson, the Supreme Court struck down flag desecration laws in 48 states by ruling that flag desecration is a constitutionally protected form of free speech. Well,Israel is different: it has no constitution, and neither secular nor truely democratic. It's a getto turned fortress in best Masada tradition, where the first modern terrorist movement (sicarri) found its end
57. Look closer at picture
Harry ,   USA   (04.20.10)
Interesting, looking at the photo used of the alleged Neturei Karta burning the flag, could very well be a mock set up. Neturei Karta people DO NOT wear those types of hats!!!
58. Harry, look closer still and you see the Palestinian flag
Ben Alofs ,   BANGOR, Gwynedd   (04.20.10)
The Neturei Karta youth burning the flag is wearing a Palestinian shawl with the colours of the Palestinian flag. The other youngsters standing around are wearing a variety of hats (enlarge the picture). The child in the foreground is wearing a Palestinian kuffiyeh or hatta. Neturei Karta do not recognize the State of Israel, because it considers the concept of a 'Jewish state' contrary to Jewish law. These people consider themselves Palestinians.
59. Burning the israeli flag is aginst the law.
Aviv ,   Kfar Sava, Israel   (04.20.10)
There's a rule that says if u burn down the israeli flag, you will be arrested for 5 years. This is the law, and you have to respect it.
60. Haredim
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (04.20.10)
Did the flag burners forefathers in poland,Russia,Hungary,also burn the national flag in those countries ?,as a form of protest,and they had good reasons to protest,the burning of the flag is a indication that the haredim do recognize the Jewish state,and take advantage of the Jewish state.
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