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Goldstone, you’re welcome
Avraham Burg
Published: 21.04.10, 12:57
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1. Avram Burg = Pro-Itnatkut, Pro-Oslo, Frenchman wannabee
Tomer ,   Herzeliya   (04.21.10)
Why is Ynet giving a platform to a former head of the Sohnut who later betrayed it by taking a French passport? [While still drawing a Sohnut pension] Also, this Burg supported Oslo - so he is responsible for 1500 murdered Israelis plus 000's of others that are burned, blind, deaf, or amputees. Why is he on this website? What can we possible learn from such a Drek??
2. Indeed, Goldstone is wellcome, but Avrum NOT
Inyaki ,   Bilbao, Basque   (04.21.10)
While I would have welcomed Goldstone as a clever person with different views, I would rather passed on meeting Avrum. I prefer not to meet nuts. He's an interesting example of an apple which falls far away from the tree, for his father was probably one of the most intelligent people in the Yeshuv.
3. Well...after all you're not wrong,Burg.
Keren ,   IL-BR   (04.21.10)
Who knows if Goldstone would make a conscience exam together with fellow Jews and grow together towards a healthy conclusion...
4. whaaaaaaaaaaaat? he is talking on
ghostq   (04.21.10)
Israel society? but this isn't Israeli society this is the SA jewish society, if you don't know the difference I can send you a map, since you don't know the meaning of living at home or out side home than your blatant is not valid, however what? you know perfectly well that goldstone main goal was to please his voters, aka SA since he runs for politics if he could step on corpse he would do it on the way to the top. much like his career he put african in jail (hint many weren't caucatrtions) as for judaism 2000 they r chritians, they used to be prosecuted so they went to pray in burial caves, go read the new testament and I will show you what some jewish athorities r capable like in the good samaraton case. you swiching one hand with the other you contradict yourself and you r unconclusive, give it a rest. goldstone right place is in jail, cause his report is not based on evidences, makes you wonder how many people he send to jail without any evidences, or lawyer hearing. sad but true.
5. Sayid Muhammad Richard Guldstun, you are
Raed Salah ,   Nablus   (04.21.10)
welcome to visit with us in Damascus, Gaza, Ramallah and even Tehran. We love you, brother. Raed
6. goldstone and burg both should move to Gaza
laura ,   jerusalem Israel   (04.21.10)
7. Goldstone is not about a difference of opinion, but . . .
Stewart ,   U.S.A.   (04.21.10)
but a difference of facts! Most of his are totally uncredible.
8. Burg is just as much a scumbag as those people he smeared in
JL   (04.21.10)
9. Burg the fantasist
eddie ,   london UK   (04.21.10)
Of course, for Burg, the Goldstone report is too right wing, and allows Israel to get away with many crimes. So it is not surprise he would bebedfellows with somene who has pereptrated blood libel agaisnt Israel, and given legitimacy to terorism and murder.
10. nuuuuu.... Mr. Burg......
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.21.10)
please, speak in your and only in your name.... in my name Goldstone is not welcome in Israel.... and you.... it is better, you stop talking about your "dreams".... you talked enough.....
11. All due respect to Mr. Burg and to Judge Richard Goldstone
Salma ,   Palestine   (04.21.10)
12. It takes one traitor to admire another traitor, enough said
m   (04.21.10)
13. disagreement
alexi   (04.21.10)
Honest disagreement is fine, different expression of views fine, but lies and distortions that are deliberate are not. Israel suffers at the hands of goldstone's lies which burg probably does not regret. The choice that israel faces is its current position or ztimmi ciitzens under arab majority. In between, there are all kinds of formulations. Obama cannot gurantee israel security nor can the 2 faced EU or russians. Only israel can. Arabs have to compromise as well. Obama takes their position which makes him biased so he's out. In the meantime, the cowards ross, kurtzer, indyk, emanual can all jump in the lake as they advise hussein how to destroy israel. Arabs do not want peace. They want israel out, most of them. After that, they will take up arms against each other.
14. Shmuck
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (04.21.10)
15. NO Goldstone-u r not welcome .And take Burg with u 2 Canada!
Tevye ,   Chelm   (04.21.10)
Israel haters and self hating Jews , who prefer that Israel would be "like all nations", are NOT welcome here!
16. Burg is a has been....
Israela ,   Tel Aviv   (04.21.10)
Who cares what he has to say ? Certainly not the Israeli public. Maybe you should go on Aljazeera....
17. Burg wrong - there is no "debate"
JPS ,   Efrat   (04.21.10)
Burg throws out the phony premise that "a society that features wealth of expression and a culture of debate works out the disagreements". Bah! Nothing could be farther from the truth. Goldstone didn't want to "debate" anything. His report was based on a mixture of fact, rumor and innuendo and he made no apologies for not investigating the outlandish Palestinian claims included in the report. Burg talks about boycotts, yet ignores the fact that his leftist buddies are either supporting boycotts against Israel or staying silent in the face of the boycotts. Of course, there are no such boycotts of Palestinians for their policies of terrorism and attacks against civilians. Burg is a loud-mouthed anachronism. He's disgusted with Israelis for abandoning the Oslo peace process after its dismal failure, instead of pursuing it to its disastrous end of handing over territory and forcing hundreds of thousands out of their homes in return for hot air. Burg is like his Palestinian counterparts....providing us with more hot air instead of showing us how we can trust the Palestinians. I too would invite Goldstone (whereas my neighbors would not) but on the condition that he stand up in front of us and explain how an experienced judge allowed uncorroborated "evidence" into his report - something that simply doesn't happen in a normal justice system. Goldstone is a tool of the Palestinian anti-Israel propaganda machine. Burg, of course, doesn't even try to address that. Burg will no doubt vote Meretz in the next elections, joining the few thousand other die-hards who fail to understand why 98% of Israeli voters won't.
18. Remember Mr. Burg
Memories   (04.21.10)
When yousaid " be strangled " to Barak, was it Jewish culture, Mr. Burg? We know you in all your aspects.
19. Kappos have no welcome here
Yonah ,   Tel Aviv   (04.21.10)
Internal debate is all fine and well, but those who turn on Jews and condemn them as our most vile and backward enemies would, have no welcome in the Jewish community.
20. Why am I not surprised
Zev ,   Israel   (04.21.10)
21. hate disguised as tolerance
Mordechai Taub ,   Jerusalem   (04.21.10)
Burg seems to have room for everyone at his table, except the Jews of Bnei Braq and Brooklyn.
22. Burg
Zachary, Maryland ,   Baltimore, USA   (04.21.10)
"When the Judaism of Jerusalem in the year 70 AD was preoccupied with mutual assassinations of anyone who was not zealous enough, it prompted the city’s destruction and loss of our sovereignty." Funny, I thought Jews of 70 CE were preoccupied with rebelling against the Roman Empire. It was Rome that destroyed Jewish freedom, not other Jews. Peace will come, Mr. Burg, when the Arabs accept (not necessarily like) that we are here to stay. Until they do, whether we are good or bad people (by your standards) is irrelevant.
23. Burg
Ari ,   NYC USA   (04.21.10)
Burg you has-been. Go back to Europe and start another failed business. In case you haven't noticed, no one pays you any mind. You are irrelevant.
24. Factually Untrue
Joe ,   JHB, SA   (04.21.10)
Us Jews in Johannesburg have nothing to do with the Jews in Bnei Brak or Brooklyn - Avrom Burg has more in common with them. And in any case why place the interest of one Grandfather over and oabove the interests and well being of all the soldiers of the IDF (as Burg would have do),
25. A microcausism of Israel
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (04.21.10)
Now we are butting into a matter that is none of our concern. Unless you are a member of the Beth Hamedrash Hagadol congregation in Sandton, South Africa you have no business in who they invite or do not invite into their synagogue. The entire world seems to believe that they have a right to tell us what to do here as well. The answer is the same for both - tell them all to take a hike and mind their own damn business.
26. Answer to Mr. Burg
Ezrahi1   (04.21.10)
Modern "Zikney ZION Protocols" as issued by Mr. Goldstone in his report is not Judaism pluralism
27. Burg, cont.
Zachary ,   Baltimore, USA   (04.21.10)
Re the 70 C.E. defeat, I suppose Burg would likewise argue the Warsaw ghetto was wiped out in 1943 because Jews were fighting among themselves: Nazis were just some onlookers.
28. actually, blood libel is not part of Jewish culture
zvi   (04.21.10)
29. #22 clarification
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (04.21.10)
You misunderstood Burg and forget his knowledge of history. Burg was pointing out the historical fact that the Jewish revolt against the Romans would have succeeded if it weren't for the Jews who collaborated with the Romans. These collaborators accepted money and power from the Romans to betray the Jewish patriots and to portray the Jewish culture as backwards and primitive. When the fighting began, the Jewish rebels were helpless because instead of just fighting the Romans, they had to contend with the collaborators who they thought were their brothers but were actually Roman agents.
30. I agree wholeheartedly with Burg
Misha   (04.21.10)
Go Avraham...
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