News
Judge Goldstone's dark past
Tehiya Barak
Published: 06.05.10, 23:55
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
179 Talkbacks for this article
61. 30
Rosie   (05.06.10)
And WHO is THE JUDGE?
62. 31
Gloriya   (05.06.10)
"Shooting the messenger for upholding the rule of law" Judge sending black people to death serving the apartheid regime of South Africa, - upholding The Rule of Law?!
63. To: No. 59
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.06.10)
You have missed the point. Did blacks in South Africa carry out suicide bombing attacks against white South Africans? Did they kidnap white South African soldiers? Did they hijack and blow up South African airliners? Did they take hostages and transport them to Uganda? No. They didn't. Your amateurish attempt to draw a parallel between Israel and South Africa is laughable and stupid. Evidently, that's your double standard. Nothing to be proud about, by the way.
64. 35
Rosie   (05.06.10)
"You don't have a problem with the targeted assassinations of "terrorist scum" - then you shouldn't have a problem with Goldstone having sentenced to death what was probably thought of in South Africa as "terrorist scum". O.K. But #15 doesn't teach OTHERS morals, or write reports, for that matter.
65. 42
Gloriya   (05.06.10)
42. for goodness sake, who are you to talk? For goodness sake, who is Goldstone to talk?
66. America with its slavery past
(05.06.10)
has no right to speak about human rights either, by this logic.
67. 53
Ben   (05.06.10)
#2 Schwartz seems to be a Naturei Carta.
68. why critisize
arthur white ,   JHB South Africa   (05.06.10)
Why critisize judge goldstone if youre own country is an aparthied state ,mabe not in law but in actions.......
69. Goldstone's past and future
David Hersch ,   Cape Town, South Afr   (05.06.10)
You must understand, Goldstone, an almost insatiably ambitious man, has never met a government he did not like. When the South African government was changing, he made sure he ingratiated himself to the new rulers and through this became a judge of the Constitutional Court, the then new creation of the ANC government. The UN gave him more opportunity and its a fair guess that his ambition drove him to try and become an international judge at the Hague, which would make him the first South African to achieve this and posibly the first Jew. Don't ever discount his ambition. May his name live in infamy for ever.
70. To: No. 35
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.06.10)
I remind you, sir, that Israel fought six wars -- all of them started by the Arabs -- and has had to deal with over sixty years of violent Palestinian terror attacks. I remind you as well that the Palestinians have on three occasions rejected a two-state solution. They are not interested in a two-state solution; they want the whole enchilada. Finally, permit me to point out that Zionism is nothing more than the aspiration of the Jewish people to recover their ancient homeland. Please do not use it in such a derogatory fashion. The Jews were perfectly happy to share. The Arabs weren't, and went to war six times. They lost. I live with the consequences of any poor choices I may make. Don't you think the Palestinians should, too?
71. To: No. 67
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.07.10)
Schwartz is not exclusively a Jewish name. Besides, for all we know his real name could be Abdul Aziz. There are lots and lots of vicious anti-Semites on the YNet boards that pretend to be something they are not. Nothing new here.
72. Let me tell u a little about Goldstone's SA Death Sentences
Alan ,   SA   (05.07.10)
The condemned were all taken to the Pretoria Max Security Prison . They were kept in a pretty building surrounded by lawns and even small deer. A week before the hanging they were moved to a holding cell called the "POT",adjoining the gallows. There they stewed for a week. On the appointed morning they were taken usually in a group of seven to meet the Hangman, a gentleman named Mr Chris Barnard (same name as the famous Surgeon). He boasted that he could hang 7 in 19 seconds flat (the gallows had 7 nooses) This is what Judge Goldstone associated himself with!!!
73. # 63 Haganah & Irgun did a lot worst, take a hike
Palestinian   (05.07.10)
74. Hmmm...
Dan the Jafa ,   Auckland, Aotearoa   (05.07.10)
So Mr. Goldstone has committed crimes against black population of South Africa and Jewish population of Israel. Looks like a pattern to me... I wonder what else can one find in the past of "honourable judge" if one digs deeper. Great journalism! Nice to see for once how weasels squeal and scramble to defend the indefensible.
75. arthur white #68 because you are wrong
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.07.10)
We have NEVER acted like your country or the Arabs. You are correct we have no apartheid laws. Whereas every single Arab country and the Palestine Authority have them and enforce those racist laws most vigorously, Not one of our actions can be remotely compared to your racism. As a racist judge in a racist regime like yours Goldstone aided that racist regime. As a UN investigator he continued that practice in his support of a terrorist regime.
76. # 70
Palestinan   (05.07.10)
The Jews were perfectly happy to share. The Arabs weren't .. war six times. They lost. Palestinians should ... based on your assumption Palestinians should continue as a right, win the final one If you realy "happy to share" what do you say about the 2002 peace plan?most Palestinians would agree to? Don't run away or answer but w/o answer
77. Big publicity on death sentencings to increase antisemitism
joe ,   Canada   (05.07.10)
Using Goldstone past misdeeds in applying South African laws of the Apartheid era for Israel political gain could turn into feeding antisemitism among those blacks already attracted by the propaganda of such figures as Farrakhan in the USA & Dieudonne in France. The truth about Goldstone curruculum should be told but not exploited in a manner which could have serious consequences outside Israel & even for Israel as making a whole community guilty for the sins of one of its members is not uncommon when Jews are the selected scapegoats.
78. A bit of a reminder of the SINS OF THE BRITISH FIRST?
Ross ,   USA   (05.07.10)
The UK created Jordan. Thereby cheating nascent Israel. UK`s actions created the conflict in the ME. UK`s actions created PLO. UK`s invation of Iraq and Afghanistan created 9/11. The Boxer uprising in China The first concentration built in S.Africa The invasion sufferings in India And What is now Zimbabwe And so many more Difficult to remember Like in the opium war the UK is the mother of 90% of all global conflicts.divide and rull is their motto,Africa,and Asia are paying the price for it today. And now the Goldstone's hypocrisy. Apart from the 28 blacks he sent to die,he was also a culprit when he interfered in the Yugoslavian/Kosovo/ Croatians,at the time. As for Nelson Mandela:Let's be honest and not put him up on a pedestal.He was a terrorist nevertheless.I have talked to some white South Africans who took his side,helped him,in his so-called struggle. Now they admit honestly that of course after all HE WAS A TERRORIST. One has to look at the crime rate in S.Africa where relatively wealthy blacks and whites live behind barbed wire fences for fear of being robbed or murdered.That Goldstone has a murky past does not come as a surprise does it? What I abhore is his stance toward Israel and the blatant accusations he has made unnecessarily. Causing undue chagrin to the IDF.And for that I for one will never forgive him.
79. TO #68
pASTANETA   (05.07.10)
You must speak of South Africa where a thug like Malema can call to murder. Israel never was an apartheid state so you can only speak of your own country! Which is going to Hell fast!
80. to #73
Pastaneta   (05.07.10)
As usual false. On the other hand arafart and his band of merry murderers and Hamas did much more.
81. All the Talk about Goldstone is
jims peep ,   usa   (05.07.10)
in the past tense. Israel still has answers to give,
82. #77Goldstone didnt care about making AntiS by false witnesse
Alan ,   SA   (05.07.10)
83. To 76 - Palestinian
Eyal ,   USA   (05.07.10)
So how come you didn't take Barak's proposal in 2001? It was even better than what the Arabs proposed in 2002? Barak wanted to give 97%, including E. Jerusalem and the entire West Bank, less 3% for the roads they will build between the WB and Gaza. Even if they bring up the 2002 proposal, the Palestinians will reject it at the end too, cause in reality you can't have the Jews living here, perhaps maybe not you, but the majority.
84. To #30
Pastaneta   (05.07.10)
As there were no crimes committed in Gaza, except of course for the attacks by Gaza, there is nothing to investigte!
85. It was clear for long he is a rotten character!
Jaacov Baumann   (05.07.10)
86. no 31
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (05.07.10)
Did you shed plenty crocodile tears for the victims of the Fort Hood shooter Ma jor Hassan Nidal or the latest Muslim outrage in New York City ,Micheal Hess ,or how about the everyday massacres in Muslim lands of Muslims by Muslims Sunni against Shiite ,obviously not hypocrite?
87. #63 you missed the central point ,that Palestinian are
Sami ,   Lebanon   (05.07.10)
under occupation and Israel is the occupant ,a brutal occupant. Black in South Africa weren't under occupation and no body took their land and demolishes their homes in the name of the God promised land and other craps. Israeli actions forced Palestinian to sacrifice them selves and prefer death by blowing up themselves for the humiliating slavery life you created for them. The whole world is turning back against Israel, and keep expressing yourselves as the poor peaceful nation that everybody is hunting for them won’t work any more. The ati-Semite and the holocaust symphony has expired it date. Your far right -wing extremist government exposed your reality to the whole world. Your outdated propaganda won’t change facts relax and take a breath.
88. #5 - Israel is like Apartheid Africa?
William ,   Israel   (05.07.10)
Just from reading this article you can see the dissimilarities which Leftists seem to gloss over. Is it against the law for a mixed relationship between Jew and Arab? Is it against the law for Arabs to attend schools, visit hospitals, or travel the same buses as Jews? Is it against the law for Arabs to be in possession of a video tape of even the most vitrolic, racist Imam that Hamas or the Islamic Movement can produce? Just these few examples - the answer is no. So nothing in Israel, except in your own mind, resembles Apartheid SA. But many Arab nations...they're pretty close to Apartheid SA....with your supportive silence, of course.
89. #2 - I came from a mixed religion family
William ,   Israel   (05.07.10)
and I was treated just fine in Israel...with all the fairness in the law given to any "100% Jew". Perhaps you mean those "non-Jews" who flaunt the law and get upset when they are ignored when they claim it to be their "human right". As for your claim of "targeted assassinations" being illegal - they actually are not in the context of warfare which does exist between Israel and Arab terrorists. Actions between armies and protection of civilians are covered in the Geneva Convention. I suggest you read it before you attempt to claim protection for known terrorists who routinely commit war crimes on civilians, Palestinian and Israeli alike.
90. #9 - There was indeed targeted assassinations
William ,   Israel   (05.07.10)
All of the Israeli civilians that were targeted by the Arab scum terrorists. They were all assassinated in cold blood, despite their protection under the Geneva Convention, and not offered "to be arrested" instead. A fact you failed to mention, and one that brought "Palestinians" to the streets to celebrate with candies.
Previous talkbacks
Next talkbacks
Back to article