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Judge keeps homosexuals' kids abroad
Aviad Glickman
Published: 09.05.10, 12:09
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1. THOSE NEW BORN ARE JEWISH- OPEN THE GATES !
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.09.10)
2. Confused
barbara ,   Australia   (05.09.10)
What is the difference between Israel and Iran? Both seem to be run by religious nuts.
3. IF THE COURT DONT HAVE POWER- THE LEGILATURE SHALL LEGISLATE
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.09.10)
BENYAMIN NETHANYAHU SHOULD MOVE TOWARDS .... ENOUGH OF ALL TEH JEWISH PERSECUTION IN ISRAEL AND AROUND THE WORLD ! THE PREJUDICES OF THE TRADITINAL LEGAL SYSTEMS AND RELIGIOUS PREJUDICE HAS CAUSE A LOT TO THE JEWS IN ISRAEL. MY POINT IS JEWS OF ANY ORIGIN MUST BE REINSTATED TO THEIR RIGHTS TO LIVE AND LIFE ! WHAT TRUSTEE ? BAG OF BS ! BEN SINGAPORE
4. Non Jewish children
rachelle ,   jerusalem israel   (05.09.10)
These children are not Jewish! Israel has no responsibilty for them. Why on earth should we let them into Israel?
5. To #2: You are so right but add the USA to your list!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (05.09.10)
Homophobia is rampart in the "Civilized" West and here in Israel Gay Bashing in the literal form is common but very seldom reported. The murder at the Gay Youth Club has not been solved after nearly a year probably due to pressure from the extreme right and the Ultra Orthodox who regard Gays as an "abomination" and would love to send them to "rehabilitation camps"! Regarding the Judges statement that basically alleges Gays are pedophiles or serial killers, he should take good look at the Ultra-Orthodox community before he defames the entire gay community. I can only hope that his matter goes to the Supreme Court and that the Honorable Judge is removed from the Bench!
6. what do u mean 3men?
svietka   (05.09.10)
1playing a husband,1playing a wife and what the hell is the 3d-an uncle or gay grandpa living with them? the whole situation sounds a bit sick
7. Shame
G   (05.09.10)
Shame the shoe thrower never got to Judge Marcus....may have knocked some sense into that bigoted fool's head.
8. they r not jewish, they can't go to Israel
ghostq   (05.09.10)
instead of gay people trying to correct the law they try to bipasse it with shady means, exploiting Indu women that got low income, sound really bad and unethical and selfish think about the poor children ordeal knowing they will have to convert, yeah they forgot the kids, this isn't a thing you buy at the lokal store, this is human being, who got basic needs, even if they convert they still going to get bastard statuse which legal wise it's a problem in case the kids will want to make any official step in Israel, damn the gay people think only on themselves and not the children. I am not against gay but this isn't the way, you want children you adress the legislator in proper way to do things and not bipass them. especially when exploiting low income women that sells the eggs. there is a reason y it's not common in the west world to avoid human traficing.
9. to #5 how do you know?
ghostq   (05.09.10)
can you prove who kill them? police isn't conected to legal party, and the children we r talking about r not jewish, cause their mother isn't jewish, which is problematic cause than straight interreligon will deserve also the same status, more tricky than you think if the father is jewish and the mother is chritian is that mean the children r Israelis if they were born else were, will they have to convert to judaism, will they be bann out of the IDF? this isn't so simple , especially when it's done on the low income people in India backs.
10. HOMOPHOBIC JUDGE !
Avi ,   Israel   (05.09.10)
Judge Philip Marcus is a rascist homophone pure and simple. Good luck to this young ,man and his family, may they soon arrive home. Naturally Judge Judge Philip Marcus is religious and anti gay , how can he possibly pass a fair judgement
11. To #5 David
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (05.09.10)
Dear David, I really don't know how to take your hate explosion! Believe me you are sick, not because you are gay (that's your choice and responsibility) but because you start attacking people who are in no way related to a court decision. Please David! If you want people to respect your way of feeling love, start by not hating!!!
12. Judge keeps homosexuals' kids abroad
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (05.09.10)
Good to know that there are Judges in Israel like Judge Marcus who know there right from leftr and have high moral standards.
13. #11 Ricardo and his lack of intelligence
Avi ,   Israel   (05.09.10)
hate to break it to you but being gay is not a choicem you either are or you are not end of. As a gay man i can tell you. So please show some intelligence, instead of your usual hatred. Yes we are all human beings and gay people also have famalies.
14. #11 talk about hating ?- LOL
abraham ,   toronto   (05.09.10)
"" Please David! If you want people to respect your way of feeling love, start by not hating!!! "" Religious jews would know a lot about hate. I used to be one ! Now I am free as a proud gay jew ! VIVA SIRAEL
15. to #13 just curious did your community tried
ghostq   (05.09.10)
to adress the lagislator? cause this way isn't good especially when it's risky and not good for the children, children r not beings that you smugle, they diserve more respect than that, usually people smugle unlegit things, this isn't good, try to adress the legislator or at least hire a lawyer that can help do that the right way, if you ask me this typ of sneeking and bi passing laws is very bad for your comunity and rais many moral issues. cause on the straight comunity if they do that sort of things the immigration police is being send. I realy do think that legislators should grand gay children in proper ways, not this way and not on some indus backs.
16. #2
ABRAHAM ,   TORONTO   (05.09.10)
actaully- the majority of Israeli are pretty decent and accepting of gay lifestyle. Im afraid its the black hats that cause the problems. but you are correct------extremism is evil and there is no difference between many religious jews and radical Islam VIVA ISRAEL
17. No. 5 David
NYC Girl   (05.09.10)
Not only would I add the USA to the list, but I would submit to you that in some ways Israel is actually more evolved in their attitudes toward gays than my country is. At least you don't have that ridiculous "Don't ask, don't tell" policy in the Israeli military.
18. politeness and compassion
roli ,   miami beach, USA   (05.09.10)
is what the judge was trying to portray in his judgement. If the law of return is part of what constitutes Israeli law, then this would set a wide precedent to what the drafters had in mind as a per the concept of kibbutz galuyot. It's not so much anti-gay, as anti-artificial. If he would have just focused on having one child instead of two maybe he would have had some credibility as a plaintiff.
19. THE SUPREME COURT SHOULD LISTEN- APPEAL !
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.09.10)
DENYING PATERNITY TEST FOR CITIZENS OF ISRAEL ....THE POINT IS THE FATHER OF THAT CHILD IS AN ISRAELI- AND JUDGE PHILPS MARCUS- COULD NOT RULE FAVORABLE AS THERE IS NO LAW ON THIS AREA- LACUNA ????? THE ISRAELI PARLIAMENT SHOULD LEGISLATE. THE PATERNITY TEST IS CONDUCTED AT THE ISRAELI CONSULATE NEW DELHI . THE JUDGE SHOULD HAVE USED HIS BRAIN..HOW ON EARTH TO ESTABLIS H AFFINITY WHEN HE BARS PATERNITY TEST ? hIS OPINION ( PERSONAL OPINION ) IS NOT LEGAL OPINION ! THE JUDGE SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ON HIS FROLIC TO SPECULATIVE " IF " THEY WERE PHEDOPHILES ETC.... THESE JUDGEMENT IS A BS !
20. To Avi and Abraham
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (05.09.10)
Dear Avi, so being homosexual is not a choice? What do you mean, it's in your gene? How can you say that it's not a choice and jump if somebody tells you are different? Please think twice, or you are the same than me but did a different choice or you are just different from the majority. Abraham, so you say that you felt hate from some people? Does that give you the right to say all Hareidim are the same? What if someone would say that alll homos are this or that? Please, like Avi, think twice!
21. DOESNT THIS POOR CHILD HAVE ANY RIGHTS??
another jew ,   israel   (05.09.10)
what happens if this poor child grows up and wants to have a mother and a father, instead of three fathers?? what happens if this child grows up and wants to become religious? what will his status be? what if this child grows up and whats to be like other children? is it fair that this bizarre love triangle of three men get to decide the fate of an innocent child? what will they tell him, "you were grown inside of a random indian woman that you will never be able to locate, and raised by a group of men, because thats what we wanted?" what about what the child wants? enough with the lunacy!!!
22. This Judge is absolutely right!!
Israeli 2   (05.09.10)
Talkbackers here are NUTS!
23. what is this madness??
voice of reason ,   israel   (05.09.10)
there is a reason that in nature, two men cant make a baby!! children need a mother and a father! who has the right to deny them of this? oh, and to avi: you accuse everyone of hatred, and yet your talk-backs are filled with more pure unadulterated hatred than anyone else, regardless of the story.. stop the hypocracy! you hate religious people more than anyone, you find a reason to bash them in almost every single y-net story...and all in the name of "fighting hatred"...grow up you facist!!
24. ''VOICE OF REASON' # 23 LOL
ABRAHAM ,   TORONTO   (05.09.10)
JUST AS I FIGHT FOR ISRAEL IN THE GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY - I WILL FIGHT AGAINST HOMOPHOBIA IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY-- SUCH FUN BEING A GAY AND LESBIAN JEW VIVA ISRAEL
25. to abraham in toronto
voice of reason ,   israel   (05.09.10)
you may find it fun, that doesn't make it right.
26. and another thing, abraham from toronto..
voice to reason ,   israel   (05.09.10)
you have no right to call me a homophobe, i do not fear homosexuals...i simply disagree with them, there is a VERY BIG difference...i have homosexual friends, but i think they are wrong. that isn't allowed?
27. Stop homophobia now
Moshe ,   Jerusalem   (05.09.10)
There are many children who have both a mother and a father and end up being abused by one or the other so I don't see what is wrong if a child is brought up by two loving fathers. Because their fathers are homosexual does not mean they are or will be as its not in the genes. They will be able to make up their minds how they want to live when they are older, and yes who knows they may even become religious. Stop homophobia now.
28. To #9 How do you know?
IS ,   USA   (05.10.10)
1.How do you know that the biological mother is not Jewish? 2. Does it matter? 3. FYI: Under the Law of Return having only one Jewish Grandparent (from either side) would automatically qualify a person for the Israeli citizenship 4.FYI: All adopted children of the Jews automatically qualify for the Israeli citizenship. Educate yourself!
29. are you nuts? these children have an israeli father
sarah ,   tel aviv   (05.10.10)
Being jewish is not the only way of getting an Israeli citizenship. Having Israeli parents is another one. Either you're ignorant or just racist.
30. Couldn't agree move with
sarah ,   tel aviv   (05.10.10)
Somebody needs to remove this so-called judge from the court. His language is incredibly offensive. Does he check that every parents is not a pedophile or a serial killer? Shame on him.
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