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Is this what peace looks like?
Elyakim Haetzni
Published: 13.05.10, 17:36
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31. Settlers, Morals and Illegality
Max   (05.15.10)
Nice article. Short on morality, but long on the virtues of illegality. You make Shylock look like the Good Samaritan.
32. Response to#25 and #30
John R ,   NYC USA   (05.15.10)
According to the 1922 British Census, the land between the Jordon River and the Mediterranean Sea in the Mandate was 11% Jewish, 9.6% Christian and the balance Druze, other Muslim and Bedouin. What became Jordon (east of the Jordon River)was virtually 100% Muslim. By Nov. 1947 , the Jewish population between the Jordon River and the Mediterranean had grown to 1/3 but along the Mediterranean coast it was 55% Jewish since most of the Muslims lived in the West Bank. The Israel which was created and agreed to under UNGAR 181 was configured to take advantage of those demographics . The fact that Jews or Muslims lived there 3,000 years ago is irrelevant under international law. The Romans conquered Gaul (currently France)3,000 years ago. Through intermarriage many French families can trace their roots from that period. There are also aquaducts to prove the Romans were there. All that does not give Italy the right to claim France as its territory.
33. To No. 17
Thomas M ,   Norway   (05.15.10)
As a Norwegian citizen I am sad to say that almost 50 million Euro of this money, since 1993, came from Norway. Norwegian officials openly admits that there has been a huge lack of control for the budgets of this money. In other words, could be anywhere, and sure is.
34. Arabs do not want Arabs to prosper along side Jews
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat. Israel   (05.15.10)
Of course they want to boycott goods in Eastern Israel since these goods improve the standard of living of Arabs. This is what occurred in the eighties as Arabs got richer the Arab leadership got alarmed that Jews were providing better to Arabs than fellow Arabs and to destroy this they created the planned intifada to ruin Arab and Jew economically and to drive a wedge between the two people.
35. Response to #21
John R ,   NYC USA   (05.15.10)
I believe what Fawez is referring to are the Jewish settlements on the West Bank. They violate article 49 of the Geneva Convention and that was adjudicated by the highest judicial body in the world, the International Court of Justice in the Hague. Under article 93 of the UN Charter Israel is supposed to respect it's rulings. There are also 9 UNSC resolutions dealing w/ the annexation of Jerusalem and WB settlements. All of them say Israel is violating international law. Specifically where is Fawez wrong?Even your assessment of the 1948 war is riddled with inaccuracies. Neither side is totally innocent but your rewriting history doesn't help matters.
36. #19 Nader. Judea and Samaria are ours forever.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.15.10)
#19. If you're waiting for our cities and towns in Judea and Samaria to disappear, you can wait many lifetimes but it won't happen. Judea and Samaria are ours forever. Soon we will have more than 1,000,000 Jews in Judea and Samaria and this discussion will be closed forever.
37. #30
Avi ,   Wayne, USA   (05.16.10)
And thus since there was the name Judean on the Roman era maps it must have been a simple homogeneous land of only Jews, devoid of all but Judeans?! I see you don't know your classical history either.
38. Do Arabs want peace ?
Ron B. ,   Lod   (05.16.10)
The foundation of Palestinian ideology is the denial of Israel’s right to exist. Jewish history is rewritten and Jewish historical presence in the Land of Israel in erased. All the agreements with Israel are said to be temporary. Palestinian Authority Television regularly broadcasts songs, dance, sermons and video clips encouraging Palestinians to anticipate, visualize, and hope for Israel’s destruction and replacement by a future "Palestine" "from the River to the Sea." Statements made in English by Palestinian spokespeople regarding the desire to live 'side-by-side' with Israel are frequently contradicted in Arabic-language statements and opinions given in the various Palestinian media. The dual nature of these messages are significant, as they are preparing Palestinians for ongoing conflict and not for peaceful resolution. Thus, any peace agreements signed in the future by Palestinians will be seen as a betrayal of the messages they've been taught for over a decade. Preparing people for peace now will help create peace now and in the future. Preparing people for ongoing conflict will destroy any chance of peace for the foreseeable future. As to historical facts : http://xrl.us/bktwe
39. who promoter of the peace process?
ygalg ,   israel   (05.16.10)
definitely not the "Palestinians". were these israelis who adopt the motto of moshe dayan "peace you make with enemies" in any condition? would you make peace with nazis? Vegetius, a roman novelist wrote "If you want peace, prepare for war" was he wrong and moshe dayan right? I suggest an amendment to Moshe Dayan motto. you do peace with enemies who are sick and tired of be enemies. as at seems our enemies feel happy by been enemies. cause it is pleasing their laying ideology call Islam which dictates war against all who reject it.
40. Is This What Peace Looks Like?
Greta ,   Yehud, Israel   (05.18.10)
This is written in response to Elyakim. Briefly looking over the long list of responses, I didn't see anything that talks about your first statement with regard to your sense of déjà vu, and how your father’s business was boycotted in your hometown in Germany. How am I supposed to interpret that? Who boycotted his store -- was it Jews? Or, was your father a member of the occupying forces in an occupied German village? I get the sense from the rest of your letter that you are Jewish, and I am guessing, so was your father. That brings me to the next question: How in good conscience can you draw a parallel between the horrors of the Holocaust and what is happening today in the West Bank? If your father's store was boycotted by Germans, does that somehow justify you being a Settler in the West Bank? Did God give you that land? How can the remaining survivors today repeatedly talk about what was done to them and how they suffered, and then use it to justify causing further suffering? When your generation is gone, maybe we'll find a way to move on, emotionally, and start dealing with reality, but we shouldn't have to wait. Where is your humanity?
41. On the Surface, Sounds Like Good Start
Christy ,   Boston, US   (05.18.10)
If the PA wants their people to work and build up the PA economy, I don't see why this is a bad thing. I think it would be great if they built factories where PA citizens would be employed. It's about time they started to address the economic future of their people. A country that's concentrating on building itself up may mean they'll have less time for making war on Israel. If, as is suggested in this column, this means fewer Arab/Palestinian laborers in Israel - doesn't this help the Israelis? There will be more jobs for Israelis as a result. I'm all in favor of a peope trying to stand on their own 2 feet economically and benefit its citizens.
42. Be reasonable against J-call
controverses ,   France   (05.18.10)
A group of intellectuals and personalities, ostentatiously claiming their Jewishness as a pledge of objectivity, has taken the initiative to publish an “Appeal to Reason” (http://www.jcall.eu/); an appeal they intend to circulate as widely as possible. Unfortunately this appeal goes against it’s own stated aims: democracy, morality, solidarity within the Diaspora, and the commitment to Israel’s fate. It is clear that this offensive has a self-serving agenda and doesn’t truly stand for the best interests of the Israeli people. http://www.dialexis.org/php/traductions/anglais.html
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