organization flying to Egypt to protest in front of Mubarak's home? Why isn't there a UN resolution condemning this outrage? Could it be that they are all afraid that if they do, they will be killed? So why isn't even that being condemned? If Israel were smart - and it isn't - it would throw out every Human Rights organization from its soil until there is "balance" by these organizations.

It is being condemned by Human Rights groups, which is how this report was released in the first place. I believe your frustration is aimed at the United Nations. However, I warn you, I'm sure Israel will be implicated in any Resolution passed concerning an individual's the right to leave a state. Not only does Israel help Egyptian police under the "hot return" policy that brings immigrants/asylum seekers back to the Egyptian border to either be tortured, killed or held incommunicado, but Israel would also have to give up its effective control over Gaza so that residents there would be allowed to leave that territory as well. Israel and Egypt have more common interests than you'd like to think. Let corrupt Egypt help do Israel's dirty work and Israel will continue to consider Egypt a "partner of peace".

Ahh! But the Gazans have a border with Egypt. Israel does NOT control that border. Why aren't the Gazans fellow Moslem brethren helping them out? Why are there not daily protests at THAT wall separating Egypt from Gaza? Why are ALL overt demonstrations ONLY against Israel AND NOT AGAINST EGYPT? Could there be overtones of blatant anti-semetism masked as "anti-Israelism" within YOUR lack of actions? Where is the equality in the visciousness of your attacks against Israel and NOT against the Hamas, Egyptian, and Saudi regimes. I welcome you to come and protest against us. We have plenty of bulldozers!!!

Notice that Michelle isn't very upset that Egyptian soldiers shot and murdered an innocent, unarmed refugee. Notice that Michelle isn't calling for Egypt to immediately halt this practice, which has caused the killings of dozens of innocent civilians. Michelle isn't calling for a boycott of Egyptian products, or a boycott of its academics. She isn't calling for a UN inquiry. She isn't calling for help in Darfur, where human rights atrocities most likely drove this poor man to flee to try and reach safety in Israel, of all places. Michelle doesn't tell us that refugees are fleeing Darfur to seek refuge in Arab countries (nobody thinks they are), and Michelle doesn't call on Israel (or any other country) to open its border to refugees from Darfur. So Michelle looks at the Egyptians killing an innocent refugee, and blames it on some Israeli-Egyptian collaboration. Michelle is the sad example of "human rights" advocacy these days. Unless one can condemn Israel, nobody's human rights have any value. Then, of course, your only value is if you can be used against Israel.

or let other kill immigrants, if you think Israel can force Egypt to stop, well she can't what ever going on in Egypt side is Egypt responsibility, no Israel.

#3- Pan-Arabism is dead. Like I noted before, CORRUPT Egypt has no interest in opening the Gazan border. Instead, they create another famous "Security barrier" to help starve the Gazan population. You're also correct to note that there is no protest within Egypt against the treatment of Gazans because people fear the government. The only way Egyptians could fill the streets as supporters of Gaza, is if Gaza had a football team that beat Algeria. The Egyptian government is a tightly controlled military regime that silences all voices and that operates in incredible secrecy. But then you will say that at least in Israel, people know the "facts on the ground" and can protest. True. However, that doesnt make the actions of the government more acceptable just because its people can protest them. Gaza should be a hot topic in the international community - Gaza from the Egyptian perspective. Egypt NEEDS to open the Rafah Border, but it doesnt. The border is closed. Egypt is politically threatened by what is inside. It should also be known that the majority of tunnels supply things from sheep to cars, not weapons. It should be known how even in Rafah, you can see Israeli products on the shelves. It should be known that a few smart businessmen have become quite rich off of tunnel networking and how many more have lost their lives transporting tunnel goods. It should be known that medical supplies are being denied to pass through Rafah into Gaza. However, it is superbly overlooked. Nonetheless, the Egyptians are "helping" Israel deal with Gaza by building their "security barrier", are they not? Like I said, Pan-Arabism is dead. Mubarak doesn't want Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood to topple his dictatorship. BTW, I didnt know I was supposed to comment on Saudi when the article was speaking of a Sudanese migrant crossing from Egypt into Israel. Back to the Article- If we want to compare asylum rights- Egypt is actually far more advanced than Israel. However, the Egyptian system is still incredibly lacking in providing an environment for refugees to integrate and prosper. So asylum seekers flee to Israel to look for a better, diplomatic alternative. Unfortunately, when they arrive, they find it no better than what they had in Cairo, and sometimes far worse. Both countries need significant funding and reform in this regard.

#4- I thank you for taking the time to tell me how I feel about the Egyptian murder of an asylum seeker attempting to cross into Israel. I know that my pointing out Israel's culpability in this act, on an Israeli news site, was quite a stretch and distracted you from comprehending any disgust from the issue at hand; the murder of a Sudanese refugee by Egyptian officers. To that, I must conclude that my sarcastic "partner of peace" quote must have been censored on your screen. Of course Egypt needs to halt this "shoot at will" practice. It goes against their commitment under the 1951 Convention and other Human Rights Conventions. This, to me, seemed like a clear conclusion for any clear-headed individual. My comment was meant to point out Israel's help in ensuring that Egypt is able to shoot, torture or indefinitely detain some of these innocent asylum seekers. It is a border, with two sides, and unfortunately, Israel is complicit in enabling Egyptian soldiers to commit such acts. Israeli soldiers are either ordered to detain asylum seekers or reject them at the border either after conducting an ad hoc RSD interview (Soldiers are NOT RSD specialists) or without an interview. And guess who is waiting on the other side to retrieve these rejected asylum-seekers? Oh, and even better, guess where Egypt likes to send them after some torture and detention??? BACK TO THE COUNTRY OF PERSECUTION!!! Detainees are lucky if UNHCR can access them while in Al Arish Prison. Gotta love Egypt. So now I wonder... if Israel KNOWS that Egypt is doing this with asylum seekers who are rejected at the border, does Israel not have a duty, as a democratic state, to save these seekers from refoulement and to accept them at the border no matter what? Clearly, I have more faith in Israel as a country to do "the right thing" when it comes to asylum-seekers, than I have in Egypt to stop shooting at innocents on the border. You want to boycott Egyptian products?!? Ok, name some. You want to boycott academics? I've never heard of any who approve of this practice of shooting asylum seekers at the border, but I'm sure there might be one or two that may fess up to it. You want a UN inquiry? Push for one because UNHCR in Cairo is fully spent trying to access those who were killed, but who were taken to jail. Yes, there are large communities of Sudanese, Somali, Eritrean and Ethiopian refugees in Cairo. Indeed, all of these countries need help so that each refugee have safely exhibit a right to return. States of resettlement or integration also need more assistance to help long-term refugee cases experience peace of mind. No one has to condemn Israel to see this, but do not be foolish to think that in the case of the Egyptian-Israeli border, hot return with asylum-seekers is not a two-sided game, with the asylum-seeker as the loser

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BTW, I made aliya 22 years ago from Harrisburg. Why aren't you here? Back to the topic at hand - USA is the leading country in democracy and human rights. So I think Israel is correct in adopting the USA system for human rights. Let's let leading America set the example and tear down its border fence with Mexico and freely allow any and every Mexican to cross the border for whatever purpose and desire he desires, THEN WE WILL DO THE SAME!

Egyptian soldiers shoot refugees and we hear nothing from Obama. Israel builds some houses in its capital and he stops just short of declaring war.