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Israel 2010: 42% of Jews are secular
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Published: 18.05.10, 14:53
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1. only 52% of charedim work!!!
(05.18.10)
thats 46% too less. Unemployment should only be around 2%. Just shows how they freeload of every1.
2. Not a very happy poll for many Ynet Talk Backers
Aryeh ,   Bat Ayin   (05.18.10)
52% of Hareidim work..... poor Gabby Gazit and Natan HaAtzbani only 42% of Israelis Secular oy vey, Jews are turning back to Hashem whoa is to the Hareidi bashers here in Ynet
3. Different polls for different folks?
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (05.18.10)
"52% of haredi men work" "65% of ultra-Orthodox men are not working" (ynet, Opinion=>Good reason for fear, 2010.05.04). Therefore, 17% are both working and not working. That's way outside the acceptable statistical margin of error. Either records need to be corrected or the statisticians need a refresher course in basic arithmetic.
4. secular only in her lower half, with the scarf on her head
observer   (05.18.10)
5. Israelistan is coming
Salma ,   Palestine   (05.18.10)
A matter of time,and this proportion will be reduced to 20% then 10% then you will become Israelistan :) Can you imagine any Middle East, we will have by then?! ahhhhhh
6. haha - when 1 haredi partner works, it's usually the woman
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (05.18.10)
i'm sure the man is at home dutifully taking care of the house and children while she works lol!
7. the satan god
cristian ,   arg   (05.18.10)
crisis feeds the lunacy all fear the new machine consumed democracy returns a socialist regime it´s laid to rest without contest all hail the new incompetence making you see what to believe a drone in the wolrd of anarchy treachery,mysery,violence,insanity scavengers closing in covering the truth again castrate society fictional reality insecurity afraid of things you cannot see words become the image of the enemy you cannot dissect what is correct vengeance based on how things are said can´t see your side conflicts with mine frustations lead to complete demise suicidal hierarchy racing in reverse everything that´s done today will be tomorrow´s curse screams in my head preceed your death can´t hold the rage when the truth is shed blind lead the blind line after line in a world too shallow to defy
8. 3 - they don't count your nutzarim in their polls
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (05.18.10)
too few of you and an extreme fringe group = doesn't matter.
9. 42%? No, 80%!
John ,   Europe   (05.19.10)
Only datim and haredim could classify fully as "religious". What, masortim keep 1 or 2 mitzva, and even that varies according to season - would you call that religious? It's similar here: about 90% of people are classified as "religious", but when it comes to practical religiosity, churches are empty. :)
10. to #5 salma the stan is for Islamic countries
ghostq   (05.20.10)
not to other religions, :) like pakistan, tagikistan, afganistan... all Muslim nations.
11. 42% of Jews are secular in Israel
George Klein ,   Toronto, Canada   (05.20.10)
I just wonder how many of those who consider themselves secular do ever say like "Baruch ata adonai . . ." If they do, that's hypocrisy.
12. No, hypocrisy is sanctimonious "holier than thou"
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (05.20.10)
who slander ordinary Jews for having personal and individual degrees of love and respect of ha-Sheim and His Torah and who refuse to cave to enslavement of rabbi-olatry. So, they are left with no simple sound-byte category. Your sanctimonious holier-than-thou hypocrisy is the cause of their rejection; and when you pretend that sanctimony is Torah you commit khilul ha-Sheim. You impugn those whom you should be encouraging their reverence for Torah to grow; and we know who is the great Impugner. THAT is sanctimonious hypocrisy--exceeded only by the hate-driven Christian NT agenda of Mike the missionary deceiver who falsely claims to keep Torah! Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah-reverer (& Orthodox Jew) Advocate for Logic as Hermeneutic Halakhic Authority Welcoming All Torah-reverers (Jews & non-Jews)
13. 12 - no, i'm just honest about what i believe
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (05.21.10)
found any rabbi to endorse your teachings yet? didn't think so, still waiting.
14. That's not most Haredim, that's half!
Canadian Jew ,   Toronto Canada   (05.23.10)
That's a highly misleading statement. "Most Haredim?" Come on. 52% is half. Even their women managed a 60%. There you could have said "nearly two thirds of Haredi women." But 52% is HALF! Stop sugar coating how lazy these people are. You're being dragged down by these religious nut jobs who attack women for using teffillin! CALL THEM OUT ON THEIR B.S.!
15. How about the rest of us??
GalileeGal ,   Misgav, Israel   (05.24.10)
I was polled and I told the interviewer that I don't fit into any of the categories. I am a practicing Reform Jew and Reform and Conssrvative were not even included, forcing us to choose to be indentified as "secular" which is certainly not the case!
16. Jews
Jew ,   Israel   (02.14.11)
In Israel the religious Jews will be a majority in another couple of generations just because they have large families. In the Galut in another couple of generations the religious Jews will be the majority as the rest will assimilate and intermarry.
17. to #15: reform
david ,   new york   (03.29.11)
you answered your own question: if you actually believed that reform was real judaism, you would have simply called yourself "religious". the reason you didn't is because you know that reform has nothing to do with judaism and is simply a way of making a religion out of a left wing secular ideology. so you know the right answer: you are secular, my dear
18. It's less than 42%
mzk1 ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.27.12)
They are counting from 20 up. A normal survey would have included the entire family, and given the difference in family size, the Chareidi propportion should be higher, and the secular lower. Oh, and it was actually 41.4, and the Chareidi sample size is too small; at times they had to put the Chareidi result in Perentheses.
19. Left out: Chareidim volunteer at double the secular rate
mzk1 ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.27.12)
I found the press release this was taken from.
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