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Report: Holland's sympathy for Israel in decline
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 18.05.10, 08:42
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1. Don't worry, you have Geert Wilders.:)
Al Mujahid   (05.18.10)
2. Only pawns in "would be" caliphate.
Joey Rose ,   Portland   (05.18.10)
3. so why is it?
media machine ,   near holland, europe   (05.18.10)
Ever since Theo van Gogh was silenced by Mohammed's dagger, those with a different opinion don't speak up loudly any longer, except Geert Wilders and other unknown folks. The media and their campaigning (don't depict Islam as backwards) are responsible, big time, if you aks me.
4. Eroding support for Israel
Cynic #2   (05.18.10)
The world at large is now concerned with the upcoming World War III. What happened in World War II is 65 years old, it is history.
5. DON'T U SEE THAT EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH DESPISE U 4 WHAT....
SINGER ,   SINGAPORE   (05.18.10)
U R DOING TO THE PALESTINIANS. NO COUNTRY ON EARTH WANT TO B ASSOCIATED WITH U !!!!!!!!!!!!
6. the Dutch, the French, etc deported the Jews to Auschwitz
Frank ,   USA   (05.18.10)
Do you want them to like Jews now?
7. Are we suprised?
Robert   (05.18.10)
As Islam continues to spread in Western Europe, anti-Jewish and anti-Israel attitudes increase. Only a return to positive nationalism will propel Europeans to meet the challenge to their existence that Islam poses. Israel should encourage this for practical reasons - as well as moral.
8. By negotiating with terrorists, Israel has failed in PR
Hen   (05.18.10)
When Israel said "we will not negotiate with terrorists" - she was respected. Now that she does nothing BUT negotiate with terrorists day after dreary wasted vomitous day, she is despised. This isn't rocket science, is it?
9. Wrong!! look at the facts
Anon ,   Johannesburg   (05.18.10)
As the Muslim minority grows in numbers, so does the level of support for Israel drops. Its not that less Dutch people support Israel, it is that there are less Dutch in Holand than ever before. and at the same time more Muslims in Holand then ever before. Its economics 101 - not just maths. Christian Europe supports Israel more than ever before... because they can now see what Israel has been facing for over 60years... Fact
10. hmm
Dani ,   Netherlands   (05.18.10)
@6: learn your history; there was a small group which affiliates with the germans.. do you know anne frank? we have a large community of muslims which grows every year.. the jewish community shrinks.. and we all know the media always sympathize with the palestinians. people get threatened, hurt, even killed when they talk bad about muslims.. see talkback #3
11. GOOD MORNING. ISNT IT A LITTLE LATE TO GET IT ?
ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (05.18.10)
dutch's sympaty decreases GUES WHAT ! holland's sympaty desreases too GUES WAHTTTT ! okay okay I stop :)
12. Obama must share a huge chunk of the blame
zionist forever   (05.18.10)
He has made Israel bashing perfectly acceptable. When the US president constantly criticizes Israel no matter what it does and lets the palestinians do anything then these foreign governments take notice. So if Obama wants to act like this then other countries will follow his example especially because Israel bashing has always been popular. So we have the US president supporting a popular past time.
13. lost sympathy
tiki ,   belgium   (05.18.10)
Look in the "street" in holland (and other EU countries), and you don't need to wonder why. It looks more like the 'Arab street. Furthermore the Dutch are 'suckers for the underdogs' of this world (as long as they don't come to near), and the 'Pals play this game very well. The Media serves the people (voters) what they want to hear....so there you have your answer. About the "guilt of WW2. I don't think many Dutch suffer from it, they never did.
14. it doesnt have to do with muslims in the EU or with
eporue ,   europe   (05.18.10)
"forgetting" holocaust, with anti-semitism, or the US... imo, your reputation would be even worse, if there were no muslims here (and not their terrorism)... its because of the duration, the illegal occupation and the violence to defend it are going on... its like a wave - now almost past its break point... its extremely unsmart, to not change the direction now, because it will be highly damaging... most of the talkbacks here are plain deluded... you have a bizarre perception of the reality, and you dont support your country with this...
15. Another enemy in the making... ...Hollandistan?
Roland Seener ,   London England   (05.18.10)
16. Of course
Sam ,   New Zealand   (05.18.10)
It is nothing to my surprise at all as the growth of muslims have strong correlation with the demise of support to Israel.. Look at France, Germany, UK.. and most of all look at United Nations whose majority members are from Islamic countries... Can you even imagine Iran has won to represent Woman Human right in UN without any objection? Can you really imagine that????????? I can't until now... Lybia, Malaysia and all muslims countries so easily accepted by UN... So, prepare for the worst.. Lucky there is Geert Wilders. Hopefully he wins the election for PM....
17. #9 I agree, but.....
Peter ,   Holland   (05.18.10)
......it is the christian population of Holland that support Israel. The problem is that christianity is declining very fast. And so is the support of Israel.
18. End Time Clock Clicking Down
Christy ,   Boston, US   (05.18.10)
These events were predicted by the Hebrew Prophets. Trust in G*d and not in men.
19. #5 attila R U posting as singer?
(05.18.10)
20. @ tiki dani & europeans... and others...
eporue ,   europe   (05.18.10)
do you think your perception of "many muslims in the street" is an exception ? many people feel so, whether jewish, christian or whatever... this does rather work "in favor" of israel than against it... ! that there is criticism in the world has to do with the occupation. its wrong, and its been militarily defended - over decades. there is much understanding for israel in the world. much more than for other countries. but not unlimited ! naturally/logically, there is a point where things are getting critisized... thats true for everything in the world... its disturbing that you dont see that, and get everything wrong. as your leader so.. instead of seeing reality, you are spreading hate towards others, which in fact feel friendly for you. isnt that quite stupid ?
21. To: No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.10)
Got some really bad news for you. How many countries do you think want to associate themselves with a country that canes people for littering and hangs people left, right and center. That would be Singapore. Disgusting and nasty little country. Do you REALLY think that anyone normal wants to associate themselves with you? Think again.
22. # 19 ! NO MY FRIEND. BUT I KNOW THAT IDIOT.
ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (05.18.10)
HE HAS BEEN COPYING MY STYLE OVER 4 YEARS NOW. HE IS A BAD COPY OF ME. BY THE WAY, HE IS AT YOUR SIDE. I AM AT MY SIDE. MY SIDE IS JUST TO BE FOR ALL VICTOMS. ps: he is not just idiot. he is a loser.
23. Fear of Moslems
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (05.18.10)
The shift in Dutch and European attitudes is as a result of fear of the Moslems who they have let into their countries en mass (over 850,000 in the Netherlands). Now, dear Dutch, the Moslems are gonna eat you all up.....
24. Heroic Dutch involvment in Srebrenica macacre
Au ,   Jerusalem   (05.18.10)
yeah, Dutch government which is famous for their heroic involvment in serbian masacre of muslims in Srebrenica (Bosnia) - where they stood and quietly watched cold blooded murder of thousands civilians - they should really preach to Israel about human rights in recent times LOL
25. it depends where to spit --------------------@ 21
Pang   (05.18.10)
littering is not ok in Singapore
26. Reuven Brauner, be careful? of anti-Semitism
Sue   (05.18.10)
27. Simply not true
Tom ,   Serbia   (05.18.10)
I was recently in Netherlands and knowing what I have seen I know that this artickle is fraud.Israel has strong support in Dutch public and Geert Wilders is the most popular polititian in Netherlands.The new era of European enlightment will come with his victory on parlamentary elections
28. #21
Resistor   (05.18.10)
To brand Singapore as a "disgusting and nasty country" just shows what an ignorant sheila you really are Sarah! Many countries want to be associated with this SE Asian jewel, that just happenes to practice a bit of d i c i p l i n e. You could learn a lot from Singapore in your disgusting and nasty little country of Israel, or your disgusting and big country of the USA!
29. #9
ghs   (05.18.10)
"Christian Europe supports Israel more than ever before" says "anon" from Johannesburg. Yes, you sound like the right person to comment on how "Christian Europe" feels about anything. As for the other here equating lack of support for israel with growing muslim populations, guess again - people are fed up with your crap, simple as. the same people who cant stand the drama around muslims feel the same about jews. you all make a false dichotomy of "muslims or jews". there is option C -none of the above. both of you can keep your problems in your backwards little patch of desert and stay out of any dealings with europe.
30. "Cast Lead" operation was a mistake for
Vardina   (05.18.10)
one main reason: it failed to reach Hamas because of Ehud Barak's hesitations. Therefore it ended without results and with many civil victims not beacause Israelies targeted them but because Hamas used them as live shelters. The world is unwilling to accept the truth and we are unwilling to beg for simpathy. We shall simply go on defending ourselves from whoever may wish to threaten us and see to it that a second Holocaust never happens.
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