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Abbas: No agreement on land swap
Ali Waked
Published: 22.05.10, 18:05
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1. What Abbas says is completely meaningless
Steve from Raleigh   (05.22.10)
Either he's lying or he's just mouthing his usual insanities. None of it means anything.
2. Is this a Joke ?
AlbertoGA ,   St. George, USA   (05.22.10)
Yes this a Bad Joke. He is in no position to give Israel land (4% or 100%) This preasure from The Obama is in very bad taste. There is nothing to negotiate with thew Terrorist Gangs Fatah and Hamas. Israel is not pushing Obama to negotiate with Bin Laden No ?
3. re#2 Whats the joke Alberto?
cAL ,   Los Angeles, CA   (05.22.10)
As our vassal state, Israel has a responsibility to aquiesce to our every demand. Unless, they choose to forgo US monetary aid that supports their military, they must do our bidding, If not we can always find another vassal state in the area to do so.
4. The arabs and their game playing ...
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (05.22.10)
one day - their games WILL backfire, then God help them!
5. A better future for the Arabs of Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (05.22.10)
As Israel has restored its “aura of invincibility” there can be a semblance of hope for a better future. Israel’s enemies should come to realize that they have truly been defeated, that they cannot continue the system that led to the war, and that their dream of conquest is dead. The solution to the misery of the Arabs living in Judea, Samaria and Gaza exist : they should think about emigrating, discretely, to other Arab countries before it is too late, (most of these countries are not very populated and can easily integrate them). That is the real solution as explained at : http://xrl.us/bi5c8
6. HELP TO MAKE MR. ABBAS RETIRED. AND FIND A NEW LEADER ...
... WHO CAN DO ALL ,   ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (05.22.10)
I AM SURE PALESTINIANS HAVE GREAT PEOPLE, WHO HAVE GREAT LEADERS POTENTIAL IN THEM. *** someone who can have trust by all palestinians. someone even israel respects. *** I LOVE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE SECRET SERVICES WHICH ARE TIRED OF ONGOING WAR ! PLEASE DIND A BETTER PERSON IN PALESTINIANS THAN HELP HIM OPEN HIS WAY do that for all of us. *** MR. RABIN WORKED FOR THE PEACE BUT KILLED. NOW ! NOW IT IS PALESTINIAN TURN TO FIND A LEADER A LEADER THAT WHO IS READY TO GIVE ALL HIS LIFE FOR THE PEACE. *** WAR IS NOT DESTINY OF MIDDLE EAST. IN FACT, THERE IS NO DESTINY FROM THE SKIES. *** TWO PEOPLE OF TWO BOOKS *** simple life. love & respect atilla karagözoğlu
7. # 5 you imigrat
Raed ,   palestine   (05.22.10)
How about you leave back to Poland or Russia or where ever the he'll you came from. To believe 4M pals will up and leave to please Jews that just landed on Palestine shores is plain stupid. Digesting it shows you are more stupid. I'm a Palestinian recently married, my plan is for at least 10 kids:) 4M today, 6M tomorrow how many kids you got?
8. Abbas is a liar and coward
Scotto ,   Ottocs   (05.22.10)
No on wants to expel the Palestinian ... They want them to end the terrorism that destroys their own lives and others. They should count themselves lucky that Israel didn't just flatten all of gaza from the air. At least if they did that the sane Palestinians from the wb could rebuild it.
9. ALL Israeli Land CEDED will BE part of NEW IRANIAN CALIPHATE
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (05.22.10)
Israeli leaders believe they can make 'Grand Bargain' too...
10. Raed , palestine #7
abraham ,   toronto   (05.22.10)
sovereing nations are free to set their immigration policies. You have been defeated in war that your people started. Deal with it !
11. #5 a better future for the Arabs
Rudolph ,   Collombey CH   (05.22.10)
Let's admit your wishes come true, the last Arab has left the mentioned territory. And somebody else has the idea to send a nuke somewhere where nobody expect it... the Kinneret Lake... please try to estimate the ecological aftermaths for Israel...for the next 400 years..
12. Everytime the US forces Israel to give up land
Aryeh ,   Bat Ayin   (05.22.10)
a catastrophe strikes the USA. For proof of this see Eye to Eye by Bill Koenig www.watch.org Hurricanes, earthquakes, fires, tornadoes, super storms, bombings,floods, Ice storms, Nasdaq loss, drought, Kosovo War, 57 in all between 1991 and 2005. This does not include the catastrophes between 2006 til today. Obama's embarrassment with the Olympics, the economy, floods, oil spills, Volcanic ash closing down airports,etc. He even lists the dates which correlate with land give aways Look at the careers of all Israeli politicians who were involved in giving away Jewish land: Rabin, Sharon, Olmert, Halutz, Livni etc. Do not think this is a coincidence. This is the Hand of Hashem
13. Peace made easy
peter vojta ,   czechrepublic   (05.22.10)
Why Israels leaders wait, why dont the present in the World Court the "Copy of the title deeds as proof of the ownership of the Palestine land"??? Palestine people would move to ather semitic land and Iran would probably recognize Israel as "state". There could be peace and maybe even Jews living in Iran would move to Israel... Whats holding this simple legal process?
14. How many Israeli Arabs prefer the PA?
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (05.22.10)
Maybe Abbas has problems deciding about land swap agreements, due to Arabs in Israel preferring to remain put? Truth be known, many palis also prefer to live within an Israeli run society, but with better human rights. I'm just pointing out some probable facts here! To Raed #5: I don't advocate pushing every single Arab out of their homes, and certainly not from our Jewish homes. For the record, our Jewish ancestors were 100% here before yours. Second, listen up good....don't you dare use that line again about deporting Jews back to Poland where millions were killed....savvy???????
15. #12....Aryeh....
Malone ,   Hfx   (05.22.10)
...Are you sure it's not because of women dressing immodestly?lol
16. I said this was a lie yesterday
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.22.10)
The Arabs have NEVER offered a single concession on anything whatsoever, nor have they EVER fulfilled a single obligation. Never happened, never will. The Arabs have announced their goal is our death, nothing less. Time for those thieving Arabs to go back to their own lands. They have no legal claim to any of ours.
17. Raid 10 Kids? Stupidity, ignorance, besides irresponsability
ari ,   Romania   (05.22.10)
You want 10 children to become haters like you. You will use your wife or wifes just like machine oif making children. You have enough money to give good education including University to 10 children, so your country can become better?You are a dinosauir. You keep dreaming Jews are going to go away from Israel, so you can bring up your children. This is what the Pals, heve been learning for 62 years hate and bad dreams. While you are seeking revenge Israel has become a Nation between the Nations an example for many. In 1948 there were no settlements to blame for. Also not in 1956 or in 1967, not 1973. Israel did not ocuppy the West Bank just like that. Israel was attaqued by three arab countries for the third time in 19 years. This is the peace Abbas is talking about, this is the 2 state solution? Not compromising? Only Israel has to compromise? in 1967 Pals went and go in Israel with no problem. Only when Terrorism started with the 1 st antifada, then Israel buid a wall, theres was no wall before.
18. Abbas is trading a land property which is
Vardina   (05.23.10)
not his. He is "prepared" to give up some land? Is that land his property? Israel has full right to keep border territories that are necessary to build a "security zone" around Israel to defend the state from Arab infiltration and from rocket shootings. Everyone has to remember - including Abbas - that Israel was attacked in 1967 and that we won the war. This is why Israel has the right to decide which or the territories have to be kept by Israel. We should all remember that if a Palestinian state is to be established in the West Bank of Jordan river it will be (why illude ourself about false peace?) another Muslim hostile state on our border, and we have to take necessary precautions in advance.
19. How ?
Serge ,   Antwerp, Belgium   (05.23.10)
How could there be an agreement if Abbas doesn't want to sit down and talk ?
20. # 17
Birdi ,   Israel   (05.23.10)
Ari, Raed will raise his 10 children on the European handouts to be sure. The more kids he has the more of a man he thinks he is. Quite pathetic ! Go forth & multiply Raed, with how many wives ? do tell us.
21. Give it up Abbas. You already agreed to it with Olmert
William ,   Israel   (05.27.10)
In negotiations with Olmert that have been shelved, the PA has already agreed to both the amount and areas considered for a land swap. This isn't anything new. Funny how Abbas claims nothing was decided on, but is quick to demand negotiations go back to the same place him and Olmert agreed upon.
22. "EU, Quartet declared settlements illegal"
William ,   Israel   (05.27.10)
"The European Union and the Mideast Quartet officially declared that the settlements are illegal," They did so from a political platform, not from a legal platform. We know from any election that politicians will say whatever they want in order to appease a certain, targeted audience. However, you do not see any legal entity declaring settlements illegal or even stating that the land is "occupied". Both the UN and legal bodies agree that the land is disputed and the outcome will follow UNR242. Stating political-speak as fact is just destroying your own credibility, Abbas.
23. #3 - How is Israel a "vassal" state of the US?
William ,   Israel   (05.27.10)
Because you support us in the fight against Arab aggression? Then wouldn't that make Iraq, Afghanistan, Georgia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, and many countries in Africa also subject to the whims of the US?? Maybe you mean the aid money you provide to Israel, which is spent 100% INSIDE the US? Then wouldn't that mean that Egypt, S. Korea, Japan, Germany, Jordan, Yemen, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, India, Pakistan, and many African, South American countries are also subject to the whims of the US? Yet, you only make demands of Israel, and even actively denounce the US when they make the slightest demands of other States. So which is it? Are you a racist...or just a hypocrite?
24. #13 - The proof is already easily available
William ,   Israel   (05.27.10)
Problem is - the politics behind it keep such information showing the legitimacy of Israel from being made public. The Turks hold the land records which show only 5% of the land in private hands, as well as an open invitation to Jews to immigrate to Palestine and the land purchases. Turkey refuses to release the information. Abbas got his hands on it a few years back, to help prove the "Palestinian" narrative but quickly shut up about it. The Brits also have mountains of evidence of illegal Arab immigration to the region for economic goals, and a census of languages spoken by the Arab population proving they are immigrants. Again, this information has been suppressed, especially since the UK was not fond of Israel, shown by its acceptance of Jordan's illegal annexation of WB/Jerusalem in 1950. For the many lands that Jews did purchase, the deeds are in the Jerusalem Museum. But the Arabs cite they do not need deeds as they have the "rusty key" of their home and have been there for "centuries". However nice your solution would seem, we see the response from Jews showing absolute proof of ownership for land in Sheik Jarrah. As you can see - the Arab intransigence has nothing to do with laws or honesty.
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