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Flotilla sets off for Gaza
Tal Rabinovsky
Published: 30.05.10, 10:12
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31. Don't let the ship in!!
yonah ,   Jerusalem   (05.30.10)
32. :: Sarah B - #28
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (05.30.10)
Firstly it not “blown out of the water”, try as the IAF could they could not sink the ship only cripple it. Secondly this is not what I asked; as usual you are not addressing a direct question. YOU CLAIMED that: The US (via USS Liberty) was PROVIDING INFORMATION about Israel TO BOTH JORDAN AND SYRIA. You have FAILED TO BACK UP THIS SILLY CLAIM. All you can do is repeat the words that the ‘USS Liberty was a spy ship’ My second challenge was for you to back up your statement that: “Israel exercises sovereignty over so-called "Gaza waters." This sovereignty is internationally recognized”. All you could do was rehash a twisted version of history with NO reference to actual International Law. Regardless of what dictionary definition of ‘sovereignty’ one wishes to choose one prime stipulation must apply ie: sovereignty *must* be recognized by other nation-states. First and foremost nation-states recognize that Israel is the “Occupying Power” over the Palestinian territories (including land and sea). See: The Hague Conventions IV Art. 42 and 43. Under International Law and confirmed and upheld by the Israeli High Court a “Belligerent Occupying Power” has NO ‘sovereignty’ over the land it is occupying – the only control over such occupied land is ‘military control’. Let me repeat that: The Israeli High Court determined in the 1979 Elon Moreh case that ONLY the Israeli military commander has jurisdiction over the Palestinian occupied land ACCORDING to the Hague IV Convention. Regardless I asked you to back up your claim that “This (Israeli) sovereignty (over the waters off Gaza) is internationally recognized” – You didn’t do this. YOU HAVE UTTERLY FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY REFERENCE THAT YOUR CLAIM IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED. I also asked you to: “provide legitimate references from internationally respected websites/proof to back up this nonsense” - You haven’t provided a single reference. Your last claim was that ‘a 13 yr old boy was killed in a suicide bombing in Jerusalem in 2001’. You claim that a 13 yr old boy was killed in the horrific Sbarro Pizzeria bombing – according to all Israeli websites ie: mfa.gov.il NO male child aged 13 was killed in this bombing. In fact any of the victims of this brutal terrorist attack which were of a similar age (ie: 8-16 yrs old) were all female. Your last claim is by far the most despicable and shameful as it is based on a total lie.
33. :: BTW Sarah B...
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (05.30.10)
... on your last ‘claim’ regarding the horrific murder of innocent children in the Sbarro Pizzeria bombing and your outright lie that you too have “walked in their shoes” is a shameful insult to the bereaved parents who actually lost their child or children to a terrorist attack. I truly hope that readers will see you as the fraud that you are . Nothing that you say or claim can ever be taken seriously. .
34. To: No. 32
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.30.10)
What's your REAL name, oh, "Matty Groves?" With respect to Gaza, you do your own homework, hunny bunny. Plenty of international convention and statute available out there. I'm assuming you can read. I hope you can comprehend. The USS LIBERTY? Prove me wrong, "Matty." Ball's in YOUR court. You have yet to reveal YOUR name. An old folksong doesn't cut it. Huh? Huh? Prove me wrong. I dare you.
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