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Massacring the truth
Cori Chascione
Published: 01.06.10, 22:22
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1. facebook group more than 35,000 join in one day
Milly Smith ,   London England   (06.01.10)
Yesterday some young Israel advocates insenced by the mass media anti Israel coverage regarding the events on the flotilla despite the clear video evidence started a facebook group "Gaza Flotilla - the world should know the truth" http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121348851234252 In less than one day - to their enormous credit some 35,000 + members have joined to protest in solidarity from all over the world. The group is very active with posting and also emailing mass media around the world with their views on the topic. Kol Ha Khavod.
2. so now the whole world is misinformed & anti-semitic?! lol
Marwan ,   Amman, Jordan   (06.01.10)
get a life!
3. NICE.
shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (06.01.10)
4. #2 Well...I can SEE thugs beating people with ironbars?
Scott   (06.01.10)
Not everyone has SEEN what I have SEEN....YET. That is NOT the behavior of "peace people"...maybe its your definition...and that certainly shows.
5. I also adressed these issues..
Skaperen ,   Norway   (06.01.10)
..in my blog (written in norwegian) where I pointed out the ties between different terrorist organizations and some of the flotillas "peace-activists". I also told the readers about the fact that this "flotilla was nothing but a propaganda publicity stunt. I backed it up with facts and research, but the norwegian medias response was total silence. Today some of the media have picked up some of the facts (a lot of bloggers picked it up the same day), but the mainfocus in the norwegian media is still on the pro-palesinian propaganda. http://skaperen.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/fredsaktivister-ba-om-brak/
6. Don't believe your 'lying' eyes..
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (06.01.10)
Instead, believe the hasbara I'm trying to feed you.
7. Massacring the truth
Charly ,   toronto, canada   (06.01.10)
Facts mean nothing, when the hatred goes so deep. I've read many of the Islamic comments and if you read between the lines, It is not about Israel it is about the hate of the Jewish people. How could so many world leaders even after viewing the films still condemn Israel without even knowing the facts? Including the UN. and western allies. Something is very wrong here. Muslims are being brainwashed and reminiscent of WW2 Germany.
8. Marwan #3
Len ,   Florida, USA   (06.01.10)
Go watch the video---your "peace activists" are violent animals. You know nothing of non-violence or civil disobedience. You must believe that democracy is mob rule and do not understand dissent--minority rights, gay rights, women's rights, religious rights--you live authorative states. You have no sense of reality or even understand comedy--if you were to inherit this world--there would be no scientific progress. Go watch the video---we in America know the truth. If Israel were as evil as you make out, you all would have be massacred along time ago. You are lucky that you picked on the Jews---because if your enemy was Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China or Russia, then you would have something to cry about. You should thank G-d that you chose to fight the Jewish people. They are a civilized bucnch Go show the video to your children--maybe some will understand--and reject your hate and violent way of being.
9. Disproportionate
Andrew ,   TLV via IN   (06.02.10)
I think you should have included something about "disproportionate" violence. I always hear this word bandied about...wait, so war is supposed to be eye-for-an-eye? B.S. War isn't eye-for-an-eye, and Israel is at WAR! The death tolls aren't meaningless because they are statistics that support one side or another...I'm sure Israel has killed more Arabs than vice-versa (not that they haven't tried)...the issue is the *use* of force and the *intention*...no one is trying to be proportionate! Consider the end of WWII: the Allies lost around 16 million soldiers and the Axis 8 million...so was the answer killing an extra 8 million Germans/Japanese? No one in their right mind, even a slow-minded imbecile like Marwan, would claim that world leaders should say "Wait a second! You guys killed more of us than we killed of you, so we're going to have to even it out...." Meanwhile, until Israel treats their PR team like Old Yeller, we're not going to get anywhere in world opinion...
10. Len # 8
selahaddin ,   Turkey   (06.02.10)
you idiot, you say "if you were to inherit this world--there would be no scientific progress." Tell me who found zero number? Muslims! your whole civilasition can not pay the patent fee of "zero". and you are no more progressing but running deep into the immorality. tell me what you know except adultery, alchol, homosexuality? you broke your ties with humanity. take your progress and go!
11. How to stop the "Peaceniks"
Aaron ,   Australia   (06.02.10)
When one is running a blockade on land, one uses fixed emplacements, mines and other methods of ensuring people/vehicles don't run the blockade. There is the answer, simply mine the approaches to Gaza, to the extent that entry without a pilot & map is suicidal. Then simply "insist" that wannabee 'blockade runners' heave to, be boarded, searched and escorted in. The alternative would be for them to choose their own end. Inshallah
12. To Marwan, Amman, Jordan
Ronaldo ,   Brazil   (06.02.10)
No, not now the whole world is misinformed and anti-semitic. It has been misiformed and anti-semitic for 20 centuries.
13. #5, Skaperen
R ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
Do you have an English version? If so, would you please provide a link?
14. #10 Selahaddin says it all
R ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
Thank you Selahaddin, I couldn't have said this better myself.
15. Moslem world massacres more than the truth..
Matt ,   Tokyo   (06.02.10)
...they massacre their own people and anyone standing in the way of creating an Islamic State in the Middle East. The activities of these various fascist groups is very similar to Adolf H in the 20s and 30s. The press and liberals ignored him and they are ignoring this Islamo-facsist movement now. US PrezO is probably waking up to all this now and wishes he hadn't been elected...you can be sure about it.
16. Reality is in the eye of the beholder
Dee ,   USA   (06.02.10)
I remember how when we attacked Iraq, we were so sure of what we were doing, we were so sure we were right and the rest of the world was wrong... Anyhow, I have watched two different versions of the video of the even an to be honest I can see a case for both sides of the argument. While I understand the need to defend themselves once on board, I am not as clear about why they needed to go aboard, nor am I so sure that the group is really a terrorist group, or that the people on board just wanted to cause trouble. I have trouble believing this because of what is known here in the US as spin, every government does it when something happens that is politically damaging to them. The truth is that we don't know what the truth is. People are dead and it is not clear they needed to be. Had the ship not been boarded, they most certainly would still be alive. I would find it easier to believe the 'spin' if there were more internal calls to find out what happened and if all the video had been released as well as all the journalists on board. Without transparency, it is hard for the rest of the world to believe. Sometimes if everyone else disagrees, perhaps it is time to do some critical self analysis?
17. selahaddin #10
Joe ,   Wellington NZ   (06.02.10)
Please investigate the truth before you mention anything. The Muslims did not give the world zero.
18. It is an international pogrom filled with
zooog ,   US   (06.02.10)
anti-semitism and hypocricy. Facts are irrelevant.
19. # 10 Salahaddin
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.02.10)
You are right,The Muslims introduced to Europe the numbers that are in use today,the numbers were invented in India and were spread around the world by Arab merchants,the Arabs appreciated science and literature,but at the same time they were barbaric,there were many pogroms against Jews under their rule (less than under christianity),in the 12 or13 century a fanatic sect emerged from Morocco,and changed the course of Islam,no more science and literatue,only the quran,their logic was quite clear if it's of any value,than it is already in the quran,if it's not in the quran it should be ignored,since than the Muslims sunk deeper and deeper into ignorance and misery,you mention adultery,alcohol,homosexuality,adultery is less common among Muslims,because the Muslim is in possesion of 7 vives,the Muslim doesn't need alcohol because the quran is the riches source of opiun on earth , the muslim is always happy and high,there are no homosexuals in Turkey,because they are either killed ,or they live undergraund,salahaddin ! if you are so smart and so progressive,how many Germans are sneaking in to Turkey for work ?.
20. #2: Arabs talk about truth?
(06.02.10)
Well well... that's a new one. Taking into account the lies that you've been fed by your undemocratic regimes for years and your puppet media, I wonder where you come off preaching us Israelis about the truth. Why don't put your house in order first (like getting a democracy, improving your human rights record, dealing with your large scale poverty) before preaching to Israel, which is in so many ways a better country that yours, what the truth is. On a second thought, the fact that you Arabs are so unfamiliar with what truth telling is, was good for us Israelis. As long as you keep on lying to yourselves, you will never be able to dig yourselves out of the 3rd world you're in for more than 60 years.
21. #10 -- Selahaddin
Andrew ,   TLV via IN   (06.02.10)
That's true, Muslims at one time were brilliant while Europeans were shivering behind castle walls...but then they had a Renaissance...they edited and revised again and again...they progressed, opened themselves, and became the most free and powerful nations in the world. Islam stayed behind. They didn't revise or progress or edit themselves. You can only focus on adultery (which is funny for a religion that allows 4 wives and wifebeating), alcohol (which you drink as well, especially in Turkey..who invented arak?), and homosexuality (which is your fixation and paranoia, not the West's)... I would rather be accused of "breaking ties" with humanity, rather than never having it at all. At least I can edit and revise...at least I can progress in the world...
22. We need an independent inquiry
Aaron ,   Australia   (06.02.10)
To establish PRECISELY who did what. For starters, if it can be established that citizens of this, or other countries, were acting, knowing and intentionally to advance the cause of the Militant Wing of Hamas (or any other listed organisation), they can and should be charged with providing material aid to a terrorist group. Secondly, the sequence of events could be cleared up - without regard to sensationalist witness statements. The pictures tell the story and they are damning. "Peace Protesters" do NOT engage in premeditated, vicious attacks on peaceful boarding parties... Terrorists do that. Finally, the whole world is looking, so get this underway as soon as possible (most of their supporters think they are clean as the driven snow so they'll support it) and show these lying terrorist supporting scum up for what and who they are
23. N# 8 Wrong
RUben ,   Buenos Aires, Argent   (06.02.10)
The Zero was invented by India not the Arabs. Was transmited to Europe by the Arabs. By the way, in other times was a great civilization, certainly not now.
24. Sorry N# 10 not 8
Ruben ,   Buenos Aires, Argent   (06.02.10)
The other response was to Number 10.
25. Repeating gov propaganda
Petrus ,   Helsinki, Finland   (06.02.10)
Your "opinions" are funny. You are just repeating Israeli government propaganda and being totally one-sided. Watching videos filmed and edited by IDF to make conclusions? What a joke. Did you ever wonder why the people on the ships have not been allowed to talk with media at all? Just like during Cast Lead, a front page of a leading Israeli newspaper was about an Israeli dog hurt by a rocket. Dozens of Palestinians murdered on the same day by IDF were briefly mentioned on page 16. It's not the world who is wrong, it is you Israelis who continue to blindly believe your governments propaganda, and see non-Israelis as non-humans whose lives are worth less than Israeli dogs.
26. # 13 english link
Skaperen ,   Norway   (06.02.10)
Here is an english link through translate.google.com Feel free to comment the article in english. You can also send me an email. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://skaperen.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/fredsaktivister-ba-om-brak/&prev=_t
27. Facts:
Nigel ,   Canada   (06.02.10)
1. Ships were search twice: In Turkey and Cyprus. 2. Ships were on international waters. 3. Israelis boarded the ships ARMED and WITHOUT the consent of the ship owners. 4. There were no weapons on board and do not try to fool us about the knives which are essential utilities on a boat for food preparation purposes. 5. People died out of this action. 6. Connections to terrorists groups cannot be made since the activists were screened twice. 7. Israel formally refused for an independant investigation. 8. The day after those events, Netanyahu was scheduled to meet Obama about the NPT...which he avoided. 9. Israel have commited several mistakes lately...European passports, Turkish public humiliation and Gaza war crimes from a highly competend juge which for impartiality reasons IS Jewish. Those are facts.... not those "activists" are related to Islamist groups because you have nothing to support this statement beside your personal and unconditionnal love for Israel. Final fact: If Iran acted this way it would have long been bombed. Enjoy your privileges Israel because you are not fooling many people anymore with your victim card. My advice...start acting on peace instead of talking about it.
28. Marwan #2
Jason, Ph.D. ,   Charlotte, USA   (06.02.10)
Well, for centuries the world was misinformed while only the Jews believed in one God. By the way, Marwan, most people in America also see the truth.
29. To Petrus #25
Matt ,   Tokyo   (06.02.10)
Dear Petrus, if you really think that Israel would send its troops into a danger for no good defensive reason then you haven't studied history or the middle east carefully enough. Words are cheap. Actions speak louder than words. And I am afraid in this case its not the whole world that is wrong it is just the liberal, leftist, elitist, fascist oriented part of the world that is WRONG. And this is the same part of the world which led us into WWII. If we want a WWIII then let's open Gaza and let Iran in there. It's real easy to see how things will deteriorate from there. If you can't see it my friend, then don't ask me to ride in your sinking ship. BTW, how many landmines does Finland have on its border with Russia? Please enlighten us.
30. Petrus,#25
Jason, Ph.D. ,   Charlotte, USA   (06.02.10)
Petrus from Finland is complaining that Israel attempted to peacefully board a ship. Now, as I recall, the Finns collaborated with Hitler during WW2.
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