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The ship of horrors
Yoram Ettinger
Published: 02.06.10, 18:01
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1. Very logical explanation, but who needs logic?
Nora Tel Aviv   (06.02.10)
The free world is biased. Don`t sell them the Bader Meinhof, Red Brigade, Action Direct stories. They are irrelevant now. What is relevant is to punish a democratic country, Israel, because it is punishable. Next step is EURABIA. Knock, knock...anybody there ?
2. BRAINWASH
Vic ,   Suisse   (06.02.10)
You can brainwash yourselves as much as you want and convince yourselves that black is white. So no need to reinforce this by writing this scientific fantasy about clash of civilization. Civilized people would find a way to handle this flotilla without big bang.
3. flotilla
Seldon Wright ,   Pontiac / Mich / USA   (06.02.10)
I totally agree. As a prcticing Christian I'm all in favor of Israel. To do whatever it takes to ensure the safety of your people is no crime. The hoopla in the popular press is just a thousands yr old echo of the same old song. Don't get discouraged, and use better intel the next time. (and there will be a next time)
4. The Western democratic populace is having a rethink
Cynic #2   (06.02.10)
The Western populace are making their voices heard by humanitarian actions. This is the best example of true democracies, not like the ones you get your support from Mr. Ettinger where one dollar = one vote!
5. Obama outwitted
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (06.02.10)
Kudos to the Iranians for once again outwitting the Obama. Obama knows that Iran is a real danger to American interests. However, he figured to gain some votes and a Nobel prize by spending half his presidency isolating, insulting and humiliating the Jews. Now, the Iranians need time to prepare their nuclear weapons, as a defense against American aggression and as a lever to take over the Iraqi and Saudi oil fields. The Iranians, through their ally Erdogan, forced Obama to drop the whole Iran thing and go back to Jew beating. By his own stupidity, Obama finds himself unable to do anything against the Iranian nukes. Again, Ahmadinejad plays chess while Obama plays checkers.
6. what a mess...........
saul ,   US   (06.02.10)
Unfortunately most people will not do any homework at all on the history of the IHH. They will simply spend their time screaming and yelling about Israel. Wait until the next boat they are planning leaves, then everything will really heat up. Someday some of these people may have a situation like this in their own backyard, then we will see what the reaction is.
7. time to change
pam ,   pittsburgh, USA   (06.02.10)
US should stop defending Israel Israel doesn't want peace Israel doesn't want to admit it treats Palestinians like dogs
8. # 2 Vic
female ,   TA/Amsterdam   (06.02.10)
It is easy to talk from Switserland a country that allways shouts WE ARE NEUTRAL!!!!! And you r right they were peacefull pro Palestinians, DUH....look at the footage, they had knives, baseball bats, iron rods....thats what u use for a peace??
9. I'M SURE GLOBAL INTEL COMMUNITIES SHOCKED BY ISLAMOFASCISTS
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10. Brainwash
jadzia ,   Poland   (06.02.10)
I take it that someone brainwashed the swiss people too, who worried about the hight of minarets as a symbol of cultural domination
11. vic
david ,   suisse   (06.02.10)
u idiot, u have no idea what this is about, do you. read the whole story and watch the videos. peace activists NEVER arm themselves, but these WERE ARMED! and they attacked a control unit who never expected such an outcome, they even threw a soldier over board! just get lost ok? today im ashamed to be a swiss citizen because apparently you are too. im digusted from head to toes.
12. Correction:
The 11th Man ,   London   (06.02.10)
A clash between Civilization (Israel) and UNcivilization! Long live Israel.
13. Lies Lies Coming from Israel
Paco ,   Canada   (06.02.10)
Israel is unfor. a nation of butchers and liars. The first thing they said about the massacre is that the baots were full of terrorists, then they said, they were heavily armed with guns .. spreading more lies, since no guns were found aboard, but merely pipes, chairs etc.. to self-defend themselves from the Israeli heavily armed commandos! thats all to it, any CIVILIAN AID workers would have done the same when attacked and shot at from Israeli terror nation
14. Zion Terror
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.02.10)
15. hamas dupes
theodore z ,   west caldwell,u.s.a.   (06.02.10)
Edward Peck was a hamas dupe. Giving humanitarian aid ensures hamas control of gaza!
16. europe and moslem countries
alexio   (06.02.10)
ZEurope is a bunch of pussie appeasers condeminig israel even though they know most arabs and moslems are a congenital liars and cutthroats.turkey as well is conflicted with half being reasonable and the other half- the ottoman liars and cheats. The marmora was hijacked by classic arab terror elements. There isno excuse for idf commandos to enter like pussies following the appeaser barak with his lousy oslo ideas. The desk should have been tear gassed and commandos landed in numbers by boat and rappel. And covering non lethal fire should have been directed at the deck. The commandos should have tasers to disable rioters. Barak has to go as he has turned into a classic gas chamber appeaser. And it is not the time to bring in livni, who along with olmert lost to heabollah and ruined israeli deterrence.
17. #2, really how?
Danny   (06.02.10)
Given it is so obvious how would you have dealt with people looking for a violent confrontation?
18. #13, luckily there is video of exactly what happened
Danny   (06.02.10)
so no need to take anyones word for it... you can clearly see the "activist" started the extreme violence. It is there in black and white.
19. I've already googled and therefore studied
Robert Haymond ,   Israel&Canada   (06.02.10)
who and what the IHH are but, thanks to you, it's been put together in an identifiable manner. It appears that for now Israel will have to go it alone although there are posters, like myself, who try passionately to tell the story from the Israeli perspective as opposed to those frequent posters who do nothing but demonize Eretz Yisrael. At any rate, I think we are used to going it alone just as we did in our much earlier War of Independence. Self-reliance is our best bet anyway. Let's get used to it once more!
20. let's live as we pretend to be: civilised creatures!
ioana ,   romania   (06.02.10)
The ship was carrying humanitarian aid for Gaza under a white flag and with support of 20 countries … on board there were some personalities such as Corrigan Maguire, founder of the Northern Ireland “peace people”, Peace Nobel Prize winner in 1976. Maybe she carried some licit weapons or narcotics as suggested by some people… :)) The ship never entered the territorial sea of Israel, it was still in high seas where Israeli has no jurisdiction. The assault is illegal! There were 9 deaths and 30 injuries along activists and 10 injuries along the armed soldiers. The assault is disproportionate! We’ll see what will happen but for me it is obvious that Israel will stand liable this time! The whole world is condemning this act … On the other hand we are all aware that Israel has not the best Geo – strategical location … it’s an “island” of Jewish people surrounded by Muslim “seas”. It’s not about religion … which is the right one and which not… Both Muslim and Jewish religions are followed all around the world peacefully … so that’s nothing about religion. From my point of view it’s about the mass mentality, culture and priorities which are produced at a national level by religion in these regions. And it seems that these “products” don’t match … I don’t know what should be done but for sure violence it’s not the answer … maybe access to education would be an answer !!!!???? That person who will invent “an anti violence vaccine” will be the new worldwide Messiah either that person is Muslim, Jewish or Christian or Buddhist and so on …. Maybe this globalization phenomena will help us concentrate in finding that person and finally live in peace like civilized creatures as we claim to be!!!
21. #5
larry ,   pjiladelphia, usa   (06.02.10)
Israel Israeli, I have to disagree with you. Checkers is much to sophisticated to be compared to Obama's diplomaancy. Try tic-tac-toe instead!
22. I've already googled and there fore studied
RB ,   Canada   (06.02.10)
The spin doctors aside, if the Israelis keep this behavoiur up they will be going it alone. They simply cannot live in a world community and do whatever they like. Self reliance? self destruction is more like it.
23. You can see activists climbing up the ropes
Nim   (06.02.10)
The video clearly shows activists climbing up the ropes to attack the innocent IDF troops. Of course, the anti-Israel media keep playing the videos backwards! The IDF were just flying by - probably going on a picnic - when they were set upon by the activists. The activists had sticks, and hit the soldiers with chairs and some even threw marbles at them! The poor innocent IDF soldiers only had automatic machine guns.
24. Vic @ 2, how?
leo ,   usa   (06.02.10)
25. #6 alexio?
Roman   (06.02.10)
and I bet you have it all figured out. Everybody but Israel is a wussie- you are the only smart people in the world- we know- so proof it- this flotilla raid was one of the stupidest and unproductive things Israel has done lately- try again- better luck next time. Give us one reason why we should take sides with a rogue nation who does not abide by basic international laws.
26. Flotilla
Govert Pon ,   UK   (06.02.10)
As far as I am concerned the EU and several Europian political leaders are part of the Israel -Gaza problem. They encouraged the provocative flotilla with questionable motives to go ahead and demand that Israel stop the blockade - out of the comfort of their peaceful nations - BUT THEY WON'T OFFER ONE OF THEIR OWN SOLDIERS TO POLICE THE BORDER WITH GAZA - so as to secure Israel's security. What is Israel to do with 1000s of rockets fired into Israel? Talk is cheap.
27. to No.19, Robert Haymond...see also
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain   (06.02.10)
the following link: www.terrorism-info.org.il
28. congratulations!
muho ,   istanbul   (06.02.10)
the writer of this piece of shit is the greatest liar i have ever written!after kiling civilians,linking them with international terrorism is just a lie.if there is islamic terrorism,that is a consequence of jewush terrorism.jews' hands are not clean.they are as dirty as al-queda's.
29. Just sink the darn ships like Russia or China would.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
Instead of cravenly apologizing, Israel should warn her enemies that the I.D.F. would sink hostile ships from now on. Like Russia, China or many other nations would. If our enemies send more ships, warn them to turn back once. If they refuse, sink them. Repeat if necessary. Let's face it, our enemies expect us to be softies because we're Jewish. It's about time we stopped fulfulling their expectations.
30. # 11
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
Kudos to you David for a fine post.
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