Video: Flotilla passengers throw grenade
Roi Mandel
Published: 02.06.10, 19:53
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1. Peace Flotilla? I Think Not ! ! !
emanon ,   USA   (06.02.10)
2. Advice to Israel
Elizabethlynne ,   Dallas, Texas   (06.02.10)
Hire the world's foremost forensic experts to analyze the situation: the videos from all who took them, the physical evidence, the injuries and wounds----hire an independent panel of them, people without an ax to grind, without bias, and accountable only to the truth. It is the ONLY way to counter these false versions.
3. :: Truly the IDF met their match!
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
The IDF never stood a chance against such horrific weapons as: 1) wooden and/or iron bars 2) plates 3) catapults 4) marbles 5) kitchen knifes 6) sharp ‘objects’ 7) chains 8) ‘dirty looks’ and/or ‘rude words’ 9) a fire cracker I hope the IDF puts this arsenal of ‘weapons’ on public display so the entire world can see the terrifying artillery that was used by untrained civilians.
4. What next!
James ,   Uk   (06.02.10)
IDF threatened with warm custard... tossers
5. What a joke
Petrus ,   Helsinki, Finland   (06.02.10)
Does the IDF think everyone outside Israel is an idiot? As everyone knows the Israeli commandos were carrying guns with real bullets, showing pics and videos of the activists' firecrackers ("grenade", come on Ynetnews!), marbles and wooden sticks only makes the IDF propaganda efforts seem hopeless. As no real weapons have been shown this only proves that the activists were indeed unarmed.
joe ,   NYC   (06.02.10)
Unbelievable, how can anyone condemn Israel, these guys are Terrorists, organized thugs. This whole plot was carefully staged by Turkey and friends. They went out and got organized trained thugs with some big name losers to make it look innocent. They trained and rehearsed exactly what they should be doing to provoke a violent reaction for the IDF. They then made sure to get the right equipment (camera, lights, live streaming etc) to wage their propaganda war. DEAR ISRAEL please listen carefully and learn. You are not fighting a war of arms, but a PR media war. Setup a NEW MEDIA military unit. Purchase the latest HD camera equipment. Send special camera combat units with fish eye (180 degree lens), with surround sound. Attach additional cameras to soldiers helmets. Setup a live broadcast connection to a real-time studio to make edits, choose the best clips and compile it. PUBLISH AND BROADCAST it as soon as possible to the time of the live event. At the same time, SHUT DOWN all opposing broadcasts: Internet Connections, Cell phone or Satellite reception. Confiscate all recorded videos etc. It's time to TAKE OVER the media war. If the cable channels or Newspapers want to show any footage at all they will have NO CHOICE but to show whats only available and that will be from you. There isn't any need to portray anything but the truth, as your on the Moral side of this battle. So what the F$%^ are you waiting for! Go on and do it!
7. 3 ask the poor plane passengers on 9/11
Ban box cutters   (06.02.10)
8. Matty Groves those tools were usd by Mohammed Atta in NY
Avi   (06.02.10)
9. 4 they will hide warm custard in shoes on plane to NY....
10. # 3
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
You forgot "hand grenades"
11. Turkish al qaeda thugs should have been shot before boarding
Jason   (06.02.10)
12. To: No. 3
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.02.10)
You're grasping at straws. These were hardly peaceful humanitarians aboard those vessels. And the video clips released prove that over and over again. I am sure that Israel is saving the videos that show the most violent and shocking behavior by the "activists" for last. Stay tuned. This whole episode has backfired mightily on the organizers of this violent flotilla. Turkey is hugely embarrassed. There were terrorists aboard those vessels. I assure you they were not there to hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
13. Matty, I do have to answer you
Golani ,   Vineland, USA   (06.02.10)
Matty, I have read your garbage for a long time, and usually just laugh, but I do have to say now, that you are a real nutcase. You see, I did serve in a combat unit in the IDF and I do know the code of Purity of Arms in the IDF. The IDF always has to hold back. If they did what would really be necessary, the ship would have been sunk and the terrorists and supporters of terror would have all been killed, but like Israel could have made a parking lot out of Lebanon and Gaza. But the IDF is bound by Purity of Arms. Have you ever been hit by a bottle or rocks thrown by terrorists? I have. So get a life.
14. stun grenade BELONGS to IDF to signal Copter and Zodiacs
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (06.02.10)
IDF using such stun grenade to signal to helicopters and zodiac around in fact it is reported IDF after take over ships singnalled each time with stun grenade lighting out in twiglight as it was very early hours half dark air
15. #6 dear Joe
Rahel   (06.02.10)
are you for real? People armed with cutlery and plates- defending themselves against soldiers armed to the teeth- wow- I bet the soldiers were scared.... You are so naive- do you really think the media is NOT censured in Israel? Your news are sifted and vetted I bet- and the world is always the bad guy...
16. Ignorant People
Nili   (06.02.10)
Only fools and the truly ignorant refuse truth. Yelling louder may get you heard in the beginning but eventually your tantrums wear thin. I notice it is usually those sitting safe on the other side of the world with no knowledge that are yelling loudest. If they had to face just one bombing they would be pi$$ing their pants ant screaming for their mommas. We are all proud of our IDF--as for me I would take any single IDF soldier over a thousand of you whining milk-sops any day.
17. :: Sarah B - #12
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
I don't know why you are continuing to post here as you have lost all credibility after it was proven that you are a fraud who makes up fabricated stories. Why did you lie about the Sbarro Pizzeria attack?
18. @3, 4 and 5
Daniel ,   Boston   (06.02.10)
The passengers on the boat knew very well they were dealing with soldiers, and trying to attack soldiers, with guns or with sticks, is either a sign of stupidity or of provocation. There has been info on a couple of the killed passengers which revealed that they all wanted to be shahids. In other words, they wanted to die, which is why they started the fight. And for your information, metallic bats and 'fire crackers' can easily kill. Don't believe me? Well, then I propose you let me hit you with one, or try hitting someone yourself. The whole point is not that they used good weapons, but that they attacked the soldiers. Even if they did it with their bear hands, given their number the soldiers would have to reply. In a presence of weapons like bats, the soldiers were entitled to use live fire, since they are not equipped with bats themselves (which are in fact much less humane weapons to kill someone with, as they cause much more suffering than guns, as do knives). And if you still didn't get it, it took only about 30 people to sabotage the whole boat. The activists allowed real terrorists infiltrate their boat, I'm sure in part at least because they are sympathetic to them. Well, look where it took them. Those infiltrators (at least one of which seems to have links to Hamas) exposed the whole ship to undue danger, and innocents could have been killed. Honestly, anti-Israeli activists are so blind they don't realize that they were used by terrorists who put their [the passenger's] lives at risk. They [terrorist] use the fact that they are sympathetic to Hamas (and I'm sure most people on the ship had humanitarian intentions). When will the activists realize that they are being used, and that their lives are being put on the line? How long will it take for them to realize that Hamas is willing to sacrifice THEIR [that is the activists'] lives? This incident should prove to the activists that they should rethink their position vis-a-vis Hamas. But this won't happen. They will just accuse Israel for 'killing innocents' and 'war crimes.' I just wish you could finally think logically about the situation and understand who really was responsible for this incident (given also that there were flotillas like it before which sent goods to Gaza through Israel with no problems).
19. :: Golani - #13 - Question
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
Tell me this Golani where in the Purity of Arms does it say that the IDF can use innocent civilians as human shields? “According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years (2000 - 2005)”,7340,L-3154142,00.html How does forcing over 1,200 innocent civilians to approach houses with armed gunmen or which may be bobby trapped fit in with “The IDF and its soldiers are obligated to protect human dignity. Every human being is of value regardless of his or her origin, religion, nationality, gender, status or position”? Is it cowardice that drives the IDF to use innocent civilians as human shields in a combat zone?
20. Really?
Bernadette Siqueira Abrão ,   SP, Brasil   (06.02.10)
Do Israel government think that we, citizens of the world, will believe in it? In their justifications? On the contrary they think, we are not fools. And we'll demand the end of the siege, and a free Palestine country, until we reach our aim.
21. Friendly fire
Bassem ,   Cairo, Egypt   (06.02.10)
The video shows only “friendly fire” and “somerats under shower".
22. Video release of Erdogan's terrorists
John   (06.02.10)
Video released showing Erdogan's terrorists preparing for battle with with the navy commandos .I think it's better now for Erdogan to apologise to Israel and the I.D.F. and for using the U.N to mislead the world.
23. IDF Treatened by Nasty Looks
Nim   (06.02.10)
"They were really hurtful", sobbed one soldier.
24. #17 Speak for yourself
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (06.02.10)
and your Siamese twin, Michael H. Just because you can't find Sarah B's info..doesn't mean she's lying. Hmm...checking her out are we?
25. Uncensored clip from a meeting of the Security Council
Mark ,   Crewe,,UK   (06.02.10)
The truth must be told - Chairman of UN Watch UN Security Council, telling the truth about the Palestinians, but muted and his speech was deleted from record:
26. :: Mark - #24
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.03.10)
See post #28 & #32 at In short she lied. Can you prove otherwise?
27. Matty Groves the Tool
Yaron ,   USA   (06.03.10)
Your arguements don't hold water and I will tell you that none of those shields are innocent and that those terrorists should think twice in that case....don't you think so moron? Additionally, the Israelis warned and warned and warned.....if it were me, I would sunk the bunch of boats and called it a day. Not worth one brave Israeli soldier injury. As for the death of those activists.....I am not moved.
28. # 17
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.02.10)
Matty you are playing with fire. Give it a rest will you. You have something against Sarah B, take it up with the editors of Ynet. We are tired of your constant bashing of Sarah B.
29. # 13
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.03.10)
Kudos to you Golani. Dont take Matty too seriously for he is a frustrated old man too full of hot air who hates Israel & us Jews. He gets his kicks by bashing us daily here. Its quite pathetic, I know.
30. :: Birdi - #17
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.03.10)
Don’t you ever get tired of being a lackey?
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