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We’re not going anywhere
Sara K. Eisen
Published: 09.06.10, 17:33
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1. Great Article.
Norman   (06.09.10)
BTW Obama thinking is very similair to thomass. He was in a church that preached for years things much worse than thamass comments. Solution is to show that we really mean to stay in Israel is to build the entire West bank and needless to say Jerusalem.
2. Beautiful writing - this poignant piece brought me to tears!
Mary Robinson ,   Austin, TX   (06.09.10)
3. Helen Thomas
Babel ,   USA   (06.09.10)
Just becasue soembody live somewhere for ever that does not mean this is there homeland. for example look at teh Palestininas. They live there before God was God. and the jews does not consider there home is their home land. , I amsoory for all that happend to the jews, It was unhuman and the world was waching over without doing nothing,The whole world is guilty for what happend to the jews. But that does not mean it is OK to take over other people land and denie them basic human rights and the excuse that we have no where to go. It is just simply wrong and unhumane. One country two People. democracey.
4. VIVA HELEN THOMAS !!
Salma ,   Palestine   (06.09.10)
she says Palestine is OCCUPIED, speaks TRUTH. know it is painful for you, but it is the truth for us HELEN THOMAS is not a lone
5. #3 you are simply wrong
(06.09.10)
1. Most of current "palestinians" came to this land from Saudi Arabia and north africa on the 19th century. 2. They were ofered to share the land and split it in half, but they refused, using the rhetoric used by Ms Thomas, and then some, like launching missiles on citizens, and bomming public transportation busses. Give us a break with your biased "logic".
6. Brilliant!!!
Bluto ,   Cincinnati, USA   (06.09.10)
7. #3
drew ,   us   (06.09.10)
You sure that you are American, because your use of the language is worse than my 2 year olds. Obviously you werent paying attention to the piece, or you just couldnt read due to some form of illiteracy. The fact is that Jews are the NATIVE INHABITANTS OF ISRAEL (not to say that in biblical times we didnt have to war with natives that were in the land, but i guarantee that they were not the "Palestinians" of today. The "palestinian" name that we see today was ironically given to the Jews who settled in Israel during the British Mandate. The Palestinian Arabs that live in Israel today, are Jordanians, Egyptians Lebanese and Syrians who were either nomadic tribes, or moved into areas that Jews inhabited after Jews were massacred (not necessarily by them) and forced to flee Israel. There has ALWAYS been Jewish presence in Israel, and there always will be. Please dont believe the lies and BS that is being furiously spread around the world. Sorry about the illiteracy comment- Im just fed up reading the garbage that people write in talkbacks when they obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Ask questions before forming opinions.
8. Seriously !
Gabe Yakmore ,   Canada   (06.09.10)
I could not have said it better myself.
9. Turky Is Banning Google
Fred Coppal ,   Toronto Canada   (06.09.10)
UTUBE is not allowed Now Turks are living like Iranians, how does that feel Turkey people and all of your freedom will be GONE Talk about the ME wanting Israel to give up nukes, According to a recent report, former NATO Secretary-General George Robertson confirmed that Turkey possesses 40-90 "Made in America" nuclear weapons at the Incirlik military base, What Hypocracy
10. BRAVO! Sara. BRAVO!
shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (06.09.10)
11. Salma
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (06.09.10)
Yes, dear salam, she is not a lone, she is a loony.
12. #3 and #5 corrections
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (06.09.10)
#3 you are mislead by Arab propaganda. #5, you are well meaning but are too kind to the Arab colonists. At the end of World War I the Nations of the World agreed to help the Jews reestablish their homeland, a process that had been going on continuously since the Roman genocide of 136 CE and gained steam in the 1880s. At the time the Land of Israel was virtually empty, about 80000 people of various groups, including a small minority of non-Bedouin Arab Muslims. The British Empire was given the task to help the Jews. Their hatred for the Jews and greed for oil made them violate International Law. They gave away most of the land (the Golan and what is now known as Jordan) and started importing massive numbers of Muslim Arab colonists mostly from Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. The British also prevented Jewish immigration to Israel, preventing Jewish escape from Europe, and effectively collaborating with Hitler in the extermination of the Jews. The Arabs do not deny these facts and define a "Palestinian" as an Arab Muslim who moved to Israel in 1947 and lived there for a year, as well as all his descendants. Peace will come when the Arabs agree to limit "Palestinians" to Muslims who lived here before 1920 with repatriation for all the immigrants.
13. Graffiti in 1930s germany said "jews, go back to palestine"!
dani   (06.09.10)
14. #7
dani   (06.09.10)
as a jew, i must say that your statements are not correct. true, the jews are the native inhabitants of israel, but so are a great deal of arabs, and the land, even throughout the bible, has always had a great deal of varied tribes. it was likely only in the era of the maccabees that israel was a truely "jewish state" as the maccabees forced the idumeans and the philistine remnants to convert to judaism. both jews and arabs need to understand that we both have different claims to the land -- arabs as a native people and jews as a native people. the issue is that arabs have 22 other countries, jews have none. arabs have many holy cities, jews have one (and only half, if the arabs have east jerusalem). arabs have lived in israel, but have never called jerusalem a capital. it is a lie by the arabs and palestinians to claim jerusalem as a capital, just as it is a lie by jews to claim that all the arabs migrated from other areas in the 1800s -- many did, but many others did not. the truth needs to be told on both sides -- and both sides need to be able to live with this truth, because the same lies about the jews that infuriate us and alienate us, also infuriate and alienate those arabs who may want to sincerely live in peace in israel. we can have 2 states, for 2 peoples, living in peace, both thriving. the size of the state does not matter. and land is not as important as life.
15. #4 And will remain occupied forever...
Janice Cohen ,   ירושלים   (06.09.10)
even up to a thousand generations.
16. #9 Do you actually think that NATO....
Dr. Strangelove ,   Los Alamos   (06.09.10)
would leave those bombs in the hands of this particularly maniacal Turkish regime? Trust me my friend, NATO has a tight handle on those precious puppies.
17. Helen Thomas is right
Samuel Sandoz ,   NY, NY   (06.09.10)
She had the courage to say it. It is the only humane solution to the intractable conflict created by Zionism and the UK.
18. Poor old madam Thomas she missed her coco milk
Addi   (06.09.10)
as a good friend of mine ones said, after a certain age it is recommended to drink a cup of Coco milk, it helps the brain when you want to speak your mind. I guess he knows better, as he's working in a nursing home. I guess Helen needed an excuse to step down, she was already tiered of her job and they liked here there because she was nice and behaving good, wasn't bothering anyone...
19. #9 - banning Google?
alp ,   turkey   (06.09.10)
it is not for ideological reasons but for the sole reason that Google does not pay any tax in Turkey.. don't get caught up with your ideological leanings when writing irrelevant stuff my dear
20. SARA EISEN YOU ERR GRAVELY
....DACON9   (06.09.10)
SARA EISEN YOU ERR GRAVELY/ YOU GIVE CREDIBILTY TO THOMAS WORDS from your article. JEWS DID NOT START IN EUROPE. JEWS ENDED THERE. JEWS STARTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH ABRAHAM OUR FATHER Jews are and were in egypt lebanon iraq ISRAEL , all over the mid east and syria lik emy ancestors>She was intentionally repeating a mantra to convince the world that JEWS NEVER CAME AND THEREFORE HAVE NO RIGHT TO ISRAEL. Israel was and is a coountry before any arabs had anything. They were nomads watering their camels following the sun and the moon and fire. IT ALWAYS WAS THE JEWS THAT ESTABLISHED A PERMENENT RESIDENCE AFTAER BEING CHASED BY ARABS AND XTIANS IT WAS THE ROMANS that made jewsslaves and sold us to europe and eventually many jews traveled there. It was the romans that replaced our name of hebrew judeo Israel with a name that afarat even stole ...the romans renames jews palistinains. I feel your article is misleading. I suggest you follow up with part 2. With Respect DACON9 EMAIL:DACON9@gmail.com
21. 2 Comments: Jesus Never Existed and Arabs....
JMK ,   NYC   (06.09.10)
from Syria and Iraq and Egypt (you can recognize them from the old men's head scarf's) were attracted by the economic activity by the Jews. The land was eseentially barren and empty, owned by large landowners and worked by small groups of local peasants.
22. #4 - Salma, I agree with you...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (06.09.10)
Palestine IS occupied- occupied by Arabs who came as colonists and stayed as occupiers, much like the Whites in South Africa.
23. Well Written and Refreshing
Mikael Duvduvani ,   Yokneam,Israel   (06.09.10)
This is the first article I've seen written by Sara Eisen and I really loved it. I love the way she writes, very clever and makes her point in such a breezy yet intelligent way. Thank you Sara. This made my day!
24. VIVA OTTOMAN KILLERS OF ARABS
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (06.09.10)
Now Arabs are kissing with Ottoman heirs but they forgot the times when they were massacred whole tribes to the last man. woman and child just for spitting on some lowly Turkish official. This alliance is temporary to suit Neo-Ottoman interests but at the opportune moment Turks will again throw Arabs to the dogs.
25. Another 62 years?
Douglas Fireman ,   Niles (USA)   (06.09.10)
So true, "the Palestinians kept in misery by their own leadership." Gaza has been described by a Hamas leader as an "open air prision," and Hamas leadership are the wardens. Palestinians and Jews could have been peacefully coexisting together long ago were it not for the selfish goals and objectives of Hamas leadership. How can peace loving Palestinians live in peace with their neighbors when Hamas has never recognized the right of Israel to exist? How can one live in peace when Hamas threatens to destroy Israel? Hamas and its supporters have derailed every peace plan, and they will continue to do so at the expense of their own people. Whether Hamas leadership will change its tune and join the peace train is questionable- especially with their buddies, Ahmadinejad and now Erdogan fanning the flames. Israel has every right to defend their country against Islamic radicals who are out to destroy them. And, in the mean time, peace loving Palestinians may have to wait another 62 years to realize their state.
26. Babel CHINA Does it all the time
Ken ,   Quebec   (06.09.10)
And so do many other nations especially in the ME. Naw your retoric is so OLD NEWS that the FREE World now sees as BULL. Try something new will ya
27. give me a break the Palestinians cant even pronounce "p"
balestine   (06.09.10)
why would they call themselves a name they can't say properly?
28. We don't hate you for your Jewishness.
uha1   (06.09.10)
If you are motivating your self with all these hate tales, go for it. But remember, Israeli Sate trial is a not a long one; does not seem to last longer as long as you understand that you need to change when you are on power. You need to control your self, unless you don't want to be controlled. Here is your 62 year of Israile state trial. You are all on your own; what is the result? Murder, murder and murder.. Which triggers cumulative hate on not only Muslims but all people around the world. Jewish people are influential peoples but are not cable of being leaders.
29. AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.09.10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=related&v=QVT7sHoz9pA
30. excellent article
Duchess   (06.09.10)
beautifully written. And it seems that even in the big ole U.S. of A. many obviously do not agree with Helen. Many cannot stand racist remarks. If one is truly not a racist then they would condemn Helen and not the other way around just because it suits their situation. Truth is not arguable. So those who enjoy and thrive on her remarks are racists and nothing they say can be trusted as truth.
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