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White House denies support of UN probe into flotilla raid
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 11.06.10, 22:48
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1. dismissed or not dismissed ?
Michael ,   Haifa   (06.11.10)
Actually it is important to determine who "screwed up", and it is important that those found incompetent should be removed from office. Once that begins to happen here, those in charge here will not be able to survive merely on their arrogance and a new political culture may begin to evolve.
2. US doing best to save face..and Bibi is going down
Dr. Honey ,   Gaza   (06.11.10)
3. He´d better investigate the hundreds of civilian afegans
Keren ,   IL-BR   (06.11.10)
being killed in US´s war against terror. They are human too.Why should Obuma care for a bunch of terrorists provoking tiny Israel but not care for the civilians he is killing in Afganistan ,for example? What do these people want? Israel to sit iddle while they come and take over? Greedy ,hypocrit beings! Obuma should take all these Gazans and give them a piece of land in America along with job opportunities. That would be wise and beautiful. But cynical ,hipocrital people don´t think wisely,they think evilly!
4. Will USA allow similar probe of killing at Mexico border?
Jose   (06.11.10)
5. Well, here we go.......let the shrieking begin
Cameron ,   USA   (06.11.10)
6. I hope all the people that couldn't see....
Malone ,   Hfx   (06.11.10)
....the lack of substance in obama and were naively conned by this phony are regretting their decision. He is singlehandedly destroying the USA,giving encouragement to radical Islam by his appeasement and weakness.. Dubya would be better..
7. No need to investigate the death of Yehudim in Yehuda
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (06.11.10)
After all that is what US funds those from the Arabian Peninsula tod do instead of enforcing their right of retun back to the peninsula of their own name. BHO's fiend Khalidi must be so proud of his babysitting partner.
8. Obama cannot be trusted: no more concessions
A Nice Fellow ,   Montreal   (06.11.10)
When this sick communist professor gets booted, we can reset the relationship with the POTUS. Until then, its congress and the American people that we should be in contact with, as they overwhelmingly support Israel, unlike this Arabist buffoon in the WH.
9. The latest Fad, Israel bashing. America, join the orgy.
joe   (06.11.10)
I guess that America is sliding into the cesspool that currently is islam. The same cesspool that the EU, UN and others have picked in order to be inline with muslims (very 'in vogue' these days) and a few of the " Meine Kampf " afficionados...... Yet, no one is bothering investigating why the Turk like to slaughter Kurds ( only 22 millions of them ),Does the 1.3 million Armenians "experience" gives them the right to settle 'differences' a la Russia with Chechnya, or a la Mao for those who objected to his little "red book"?. ----Why are the US and NATO slaughtering old, women, children muslims in order to make ONE KILL, as they "accomplished" yesterday, the week before, and before...! Why is it OK for America to send Undercover agents, FBI men to Mexico in order to flush out, arrest or kill drug dealers, when US citizens are their best and most loyal customers?. Why is it OK for the progressive media to forge, distort, fabricate articles and pictures about Israel and not showing in bright colors men, women, children being ripped apart by " precise munition" ? Is it because we are doing it in the name of democracy, and they, the arabs are doing same for their damned koran? -------- !
10. if you look for a hypocrite
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.11.10)
you found one in hussain obama...
11. Why are the zionists refusing
Tarik ,   turkey   (06.11.10)
the int. investigation on gaza flotilla raid ? Are they afraid their lies will come out ? Let the truth decide what happened on the ship.
12. Is Goldstone available?
TLOS   (06.11.10)
Who else could lead the investigation?
13. Flotilla Raid Investigation
Ezra ,   Calgary Canada   (06.11.10)
I feel very sorry for the Jewish people and the real Americans. God did not write the words, "I will bless those who bless you and Curse those who curse you" for nothing. I believe that the U.S. is falling foul of this great promise. God always judges a nation by its leader as He did in the Old Testament. I am afraid that America will suffer until this Obama is gone, period.
14. Only Totally Independent Probe Will Be Believed
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (06.11.10)
The other proposal, for an Israeli investigation with "observers" is just a "photo op" whitewash that will generate propaganda for Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdoch's Weekly Standard.
15. yes please
Robyn ,   JHB RSA   (06.11.10)
Please not another Goldstone report!! Israel should encourage this investigation and show Turkey up for its duplicitous behaviour
16. Israel supporters bought into that "charm offensive". Not me
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (06.11.10)
Obama is once again showing his true colors. He snookered US Jewish leaders concerned about the (frankly amateurish) policy shifts that put US-Israel relations (and, I'd add, US interests) at risk. I'm not the only one who saw the "charm offensive" as little more than words. So once again the US aligns with those who don't have US interests at heart - folks like Turkey. After all, to do otherwise would undermine his outreach to the Muslim world. That outreach, of course, has brought not a single benefit to the US and in fact has left it weakened. That poser in the White House thinks throwing Israel to the wolves will redound to US benefit; it won't. If the US won't stand with Israel, it shows itself as an unreliable ally? It's no surprise therefore that other US "allies" are shifting into Iran's orbit.
17. in the intnl community-what good for the goose is good .....
galut ,   Selah   (06.11.10)
... for the gander.... force israel into international scrutiny tomorrow it will be the United States.... let israel do it with observers from the international community...perhaps with the ability to raise issues.... last thing that is needed is a intnl kangeroo court with a predisposed political agenda....
18. Consider The Source
emanon ,   USA   (06.11.10)
I should trust a "neo-conservative American paper" because . . . . ? Aren't these the same people that want a white, christian America with women having no rights?
19.  INVESTIGATE THE BILLIONS$$ GOING TO ABBAS AND HANIYEH
........DACON9   (06.11.10)
20. Could this be a disinformation campaign
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (06.11.10)
in which first the UN option is put forward in order to assess the reaction and then the independent Israeli option?
21. independant UN probe?
Jay ,   USA   (06.11.10)
Eh.......Why does anyone need an independant UN probe? They don't have the attention span to see the obvious by watching the videos recorded that day? Aren't the videos enough? Then what? The UN will make up a story based on their prejudice against Israel because they'd rather believe their own lies then their own eyes!
22. Turkey should head the investigation, not Israel
lara ,   Australia   (06.12.10)
The raid occured in international waters, not in Israel. It also occurred on a Turkish vessle, not an Israeli one. Turkish citizens were killed, not Israelis. An Israeli investigation would offer a bias account of what happened. As would a Turkish investigation. The U.N's proposal to have the investigation conducted by New Zealand, who holds no affiliations with either party would be impartial. Alternatively, both Israel and Turkey should conduct separate investigations then present their arguments substantiate by hard evidence in an international court to an impartial jury. Israel conducting the investigation will be far from impartial, especially considering they are the ones on trail. It is about as credible as a murderer leading the investigation into their own crime.
23. IDF violence was planned in advance
Robert ,   Brisbane, Australia   (06.12.10)
Forget the videos the following article is what needs to be read. I fully expect it to be prohibited from posting. http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/06/the-flotilla-raid-was-not-bungled-the-idf-detailed-its-violent-strategy-in-advance/
24. 9/11 similarity and an international dangerous conclusion
observer ,   USA......   (06.12.10)
today a Turkish newspaper sarcastically talking about the israeli description of the Turks in the Marmara liberty ship as TERRORISTS .!!!!!!!!!! those Guys stood to defend themselves against armed unwelcomed intuders dropped on them in the international water without warning ..the Israelis know in advance that there is no arm on board and that was confirmed later on (oops sorry, slingshots were found ) it is similar to the airplane in 9/11 over Pennsylvania ..the passengers attaked the armed hijaker and they got called HEROS !!!!!!!! people on both incidents are HEROS ,and Super Heros regardless what a nation led by bandits and Pirates think . the world is seeing similarity here with a hyppocrite conclusions . the turks did the same damn thing ,they got called terrorist by only one Nation (Israel ) . it is very Dangerous that the US would Fall for this by avoiding to condemn this Massacre ..the whole world is laughing at us big time ...... Israel is taking the US down ,this is unprecedent political mistake from the president . Israel is a burden,always been , and MR Obama knows that very well ... he should force a solution on the 1967 line and stop answering his Phone from both sides .. he believes that the Likud party is as radical as Hamas ,Israelis should stop this BS . ..there is no need for a probe here fox ..just look at the damn Pictures . if you have a slight pride ,you would stand and defend yourself when attacked ..very Basic . i am sure he has a you-tube access in the WH ..
25. Does Obama wear flip-flops?.....
Malone ,   Hfx   (06.12.10)
....now he doesn't support the UN probe.... Just goin' whichever way the wind blows...
26. #11 - US admin said it best - Turkey will be ignored
William ,   Israel   (06.12.10)
as will Hamas' involvement in the violent flotilla and ties to terrorism. Unless all sides are investigated equally, there is no reason for an investigation. Thanks to the video and more testimony that continues to be published - like the Egyptian MP who proudly remarked that activists attacked IDF with weapons when they arrived, or the photo cropped by Reuters showing a Turk holding a bloody knife (when they said no weapons were on board), and the ship captain admitting he tried to stop violence 2 hours BEFORE the IDF arrived.....the real picture is emerging for the world to see. Why demand a one-sided investigation when Israel's story is supported so well by your own terrorist brigade?
27. MARMARA PEACE ACTIVISTS
AMERICAN LEBANESE ,   U S A   (06.12.10)
to tarik the turk.do you think that the numerous butcher knives brought aboard by the gang of 40 or 50 muslim neanderthals were to give to gazans so they can chop onions and cucumbers. and all these iron bars for building schools in gaza.VERY possible. but how about the giant sling shots and jars filled with stones the size of tennis balls . let me guess ...umm ... they must be for shooting birds.
28. Americans can you explain this to me please
Israeli   (06.12.10)
WHY DOES OBAMA HATES ISRAEL SO MUCH? WHAT DID WE DO TO HIM?
29. Obama is the worst president ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Citizen   (06.12.10)
30. Turkey and Iran already planning next investigation
(06.12.10)
I do hope Netanyahu and Barak have a plan of action rather than reaction and being on the defensive.
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