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Ex-prisoner: Administrative detention – mental slaughter
Ali Waked
Published: 14.06.10, 08:00
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1. It's so horrible to have a chance to earn a PhD in jail
Zvi   (06.14.10)
like Barghouti, instead of blowing yourself up. Jaradat is a demagogue, a liar and a terrorist. As for vanishing & nobody knowing, that's incorrect. Cite specific cases in which people have been "disappeared" in the last decade, and nobody ever found their bodies. Other, that is, than Gilad Shalit. The IDF has stated that there are now only 14 manned roadblocks in the WB.
2. B'Tselem
Talya   (06.14.10)
Did B'Tselem also criticize the fact that Gilad Shalit has been held captive for four years without so much as a visit from the Red Cross? Believe it or not, Shalit also suffers the same feelings of "uncertainty and wait" that Palestinian prisoners do. The only difference is that Pals in Israeli jails are granted family visits, special food, education, TV, religious gear... the list goes on.... Shalit is not. FREE GILAD SHALIT!
3. Is B'tzelem anti-semetic?
Yitzchak ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.14.10)
Wait. Does the B'tzelem report mention the dozens of Jewish detainees that have been held and are being held? Or is B'tzelem an anti-semetic organization ONLY concerned with the human rights of any human but a Jew who in their eyes is NOT HUMAN?
4. Administrative detention
Madeleine ,   Israel   (06.14.10)
As long as Gilad Shalit remains a prisoner, I won't spare one iota of sympathy for these guys. Only 22 in jail? Hamas is asking for the release of about 1000 prisoners in return for Gilad' release.
5. Interestingly enough, B'Tselem, that
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (06.14.10)
wonderful organization with "peaceful" intentions, never, never criticizes Fatah, Hamas, the PLO nor the PLA in their activities towards Israel nor towards Jews nor does B'Tselem ever criticize any of the leaders of these organizations, only Israel and its constituents like the IDF. Why is that?
6. COMPARISON IMPOSSIBLE !!!.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (06.14.10)
ONE CAN NOT COMPARE THE SITUATION IN THE WEST BANK, TO OTHER NORMAL SOCIAL CONDITIONS IN THE WORLD, AND COME UP WITH ACCUSTIONS FOR UNNORMALITY. IF THOSE DETEINEES WOULD HOLD THEIR PEACE, AND LIVE NORMAL LIFE, THIS SITUATON WOULD NOT EXIST. BUT SINCE THE SO CALLED PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK, DO LIVE IN A MORE OR LESS UPROAR AND HOSTILE BEHAVIOUR, AGAINST THE RULING AUTHORITYS AND JEWS, THIS IS THE RESULT. NORMAL CIVILIAN LIFE, AND THEREFORE A NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATION IS IMPOSSIBLE. Arn.
7. weird but you never hear betzelem when Gilad
ghostq   (06.14.10)
Shalit is well being, only palis, jail is jail it isn't suppose to be fun, and from what I heard Israeli jail you can get stuff you normaly can't get outside, like diploma. so stop whining. the cry wolf doesn't work anymore.
8. What is BT'selem?
Dina   (06.14.10)
What sort of an organisation is this? Human rights? OMG they have visited these prisoners , seen their rooms, checked their health care, seen what they eat, heard about their 'spare time activities' and the list goes on. But when Israelis are kidnapped and held hostage by Hammas, PLO, Hizballah or any other 'peace loving' organization - who sees them? who checks what they eat? who checks their medical care? and the list goes on Dear Mr. BTselem It is your duty to demand to visit Gilad Shalit NOW!
9. Free Gilad Shalit,,,,NOW!!!!!
moriah ,   sacto calif   (06.14.10)
10. btselem
rose retwwe ,   bos   (06.14.10)
who is to believe this 20 people org funded by antisemites - it represents nobody these muslims are in jail because they are security risk had the palis not carried suicide murder attacks there would be no need for jail ppl have to pay for their deeds west kept hundreds of muslims in cuba camp for years without trial and continues to do it when usa will release all these muslims israel will follow ok
11. Spokesperson for who?
factsconfuse   (06.14.10)
Hmmm, you mean he was the spokesperson for the PLFP, the guys that used to blow up airplanes, buses, attacks at airports and skyjack planes together with Arafat. Poor souls, my heart bleeds for him...
12. who are they?
rob feller ,   ny   (06.14.10)
B'Tselem who are they? who elected them? who is financing them? what credentials they have to be taken seriously? we dont trust self appointed foreign paid for propagandists
13. if you can't do the time, don't do the crime
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (06.14.10)
what a crybaby. if being a part of a terrorist organization is so important to you, then you should be ready to suffer for it. and you should.
14. Prisoners
zznhl   (06.14.10)
Gilad has had no trail, indeed there will be no trial because he was kidnapped whilst doing his duty protecting his country. As he was inside Israel at the time he was kidnapped, no court of law would be able to prosecute him anyway. Hamas prevent him from receiving any statutory rights either as any prisoner is entitled to or as a prisoner of war, such as the right to contact his loved ones or the right to visits by the international red cross. Such rights ARE permitted to those Hamas and other Palestine affiliated prisoner in Israeli custody no matter what their crimes. Who knows what physical or mental torture Gilad has gone through these last 4 years with no state ombudsman or state legislation to protect him as an unarmed prisoner who is open to the unhampered mistreatment of his disgruntled captors?
15. really?
doesn't matter ,   Haifa,   (06.14.10)
If that is the case,earning a PhD in jail,you are more than welcome to go do it... Stop with the nonsense ,and re-read the article...
16. Mike #13
Resistor   (06.14.10)
The word "terrorist" gets very overused on here, to the point where every man, woman and child (born or unborn) who is a non-jew, gets accused of being a terrorist. A writer who writes against Israel, is locked up, just as in despotic regimes around the world. Are you going to track me down, and lock me up too, Mike, without charge, trial or conviction, or will you brand me a terrorist simply because I disagree with how Israelis treat non-jews?
17. Who wrote this article.....that says alot!
Jay3 ,   Israel   (06.14.10)
Mr Waked....i see you hate to use the word terrorist to describe your so called moderates in WB. This was clearly a terrorist act, but i guess you consider it justified! The YNet propaganda king strikes again!
18. # 4
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.14.10)
Only 22 in jail without trials.
19. What is Gilad Shalit detention in Hamas
Vardina   (06.14.10)
prison, not mental slaughter? Do not release a single detainee as long as Gilad Shalit rots in Hamas prison.
20. 16 - the PFLP are terrorists
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (06.14.10)
nice philosophical meandering there, but we are talking about despicable barbarians who target women and children to murder. do you dispute that the PFLP is a terrorist organization?
21. to #16 that cause in the past you send women to
ghostq   (06.14.10)
sucide bombings, short memory you got the night of pass over a woman terrorist killed in sucide bombing 30 Israelis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks so many of them, People don't forget. and those where in so call peacfull time, you just got selective memory.
22. #20 Mike
Resistor   (06.14.10)
I despise anyone who targets women and children,whether they be IDF(remember the T-shirts) or freedom fighters or "terrorists". As for the PFLP, the jury is out............ Israel's true aim, is to kill or drive out every non-jew, unless they can be "useful idiots" from Israel, the WB, Gaza, Syria, and South Lebanon, and populate these lands with jews and zionists. Of course it wants all non-jews to be submissive, or to roll over and die. Do you dispute this Mike?
23. I don't get it, are they against or for the wall and the...
Ariel   (06.14.10)
siege of Gaza? according to them it works to reduce the number of dead in both sides.
24. 22 - as a non-jew with an arab israeli wife, i dispute you
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (06.14.10)
all israel has ever given us is freedom, liverty, and justice. which does not exist in the muslim-dominated places you listed. the IDf doesn't target women and children, however the islamic terrorists from the places you mentioned do AND they celebrate it when it happens. fact = terrorists.
25. I believe terrorists should be shot in the field
Tomer ,   Herzeliya   (06.14.10)
They should be taken to some orchard and a buller should be put through their evil PLO skulls.
26. Administrative measures
Ilan ,   Ariel   (06.14.10)
Holding someone without pressing charges and without giving the defendant the right to know or respond to charges is just plain wrong. It doesn't matter if that is applied to a Palestinian or to an Israeli citizen. There are people who are sent from their homes in some sort of internal exile and that is done on the basis of information from the Shabak that may have not real basis. The best protection for human rights is to avoid administrative measures and to rely on a truly independent judiciary (not judges working hand in glove with the prosecutors office).
27. How many?
Janine ,   Aust   (06.14.10)
I thought the article said 222 in administrative detention not 22 ( though that would be bad enough) ...and how do you know they are terrorists if they haven't been tried?
28. B'TSELEM = BLUFF
Bluff ,   EU   (06.14.10)
B'Tselem is a group of Israeli photographers and cameramen, hired by EU to take pictures that show Palestinians suffering.
29. You have no right to complain
Yonah ,   tel aviv   (06.14.10)
Maybe if we kept you in conditions like Gilad Schalit. . . . then I would give a crap about your whining.
30. So-called Resistor #16 you are a liar
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.14.10)
'A writer who writes against Israel, is locked up, just as in despotic regimes around the world.' Name one you lying piece of trash! Not a single person in the history of our country has ever even been questioned, let alone arrested or charged with a crime for writing against Israel. That is a record that most other democracies including the US cannot claim.
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